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« on: November 11, 2023, 06:29:45 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2023, 07:51:54 PM »

The only morally consistent position.
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« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2023, 07:53:48 PM »

The only morally consistent position.

"My personal position is the only 'morally consistent' one," what a surprise you think that!

Well I would argue MY position -- supporting BOTH sides of two conflicts that were the initial victims of egregious attacks which started said conflicts -- is the only "morally consistent" one in a shocker.
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« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2023, 08:13:10 PM »

FFs who are morally consistent on human rights unlike some
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« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2023, 08:28:44 PM »

FFs who are morally consistent on human rights unlike some

No they aren’t morally consistent. Supporting Palestine is completely ridiculous and proof many leftists really have a soft spot when it comes to Islamists
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« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2023, 08:30:58 PM »

The only morally defensible position is being Pro Israel and Pro Ukraine
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« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2023, 08:36:20 PM »

The only morally consistent position.

The only morally defensible position is being Pro Israel and Pro Ukraine

Both of you are wrong. The Moral Position is being Pro-Palestine and Neutral on Russia/Ukraine.
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« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2023, 09:08:39 PM »

Depends on the person
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« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2023, 09:18:58 PM »

Supporting an authoritarian viciously anti-LGBT hellhole run by backward religious extremists is not morally defensible in either conflict.
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« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2023, 09:56:24 PM »

FFs who are morally consistent on human rights unlike some

No they aren’t morally consistent. Supporting Palestine is completely ridiculous and proof many leftists really have a soft spot when it comes to Islamists
I have a soft spot for human rights OSR
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« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2023, 09:57:57 PM »
« Edited: November 11, 2023, 10:07:35 PM by Hindsight was 2020 »

The only morally consistent position.

The only morally defensible position is being Pro Israel and Pro Ukraine

Both of you are wrong. The Moral Position is being Pro-Palestine and Neutral on Russia/Ukraine.
Not only is that not a moral position that isn’t even your position, you’re blatantly pro-Russia and have gone out of your way to spew their rhetoric and downplay their war crimes so spare the “neutral” act
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« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2023, 10:06:21 PM »

The only morally consistent position.

The only morally defensible position is being Pro Israel and Pro Ukraine

Both of you are wrong. The Moral Position is being Pro-PalestiUkraine and Neutral on Russia Israel/UkraPalestine.

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« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2023, 10:18:50 PM »

FFs who are morally consistent on human rights unlike some

No they aren’t morally consistent. Supporting Palestine is completely ridiculous and proof many leftists really have a soft spot when it comes to Islamists
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Then you would be pro Israel
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« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2023, 10:20:35 PM »

FFs who are morally consistent on human rights unlike some

No they aren’t morally consistent. Supporting Palestine is completely ridiculous and proof many leftists really have a soft spot when it comes to Islamists
I have a soft spot for human rights OSR

Then you would be pro Israel
I care about human rights so I should support the side that blew up a refugee camp 10/10 logic
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« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2023, 10:22:23 PM »

FFs who are morally consistent on human rights unlike some

No they aren’t morally consistent. Supporting Palestine is completely ridiculous and proof many leftists really have a soft spot when it comes to Islamists
I have a soft spot for human rights OSR

Then you would be pro Israel
I care about human rights so I should support the side that blew up a refugee camp 10/10 logic

Look what we did in WW2 and you can see we did much worse than what  Israel just did . Anyway calling that place a refugee camp is stretching it given it has permanent buildings , a zoo and basically many things a refugee camp does not have .

This is the problem when literally every single action taken in a war is scrutinized by the media. It makes both sides look equally bad which is absurd here
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« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2023, 10:25:23 PM »

I don't really agree with them, but ultimately supporting Palestine is much more morally justified than supporting Russia.
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« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2023, 10:29:44 PM »

FFs who are morally consistent on human rights unlike some

No they aren’t morally consistent. Supporting Palestine is completely ridiculous and proof many leftists really have a soft spot when it comes to Islamists
I have a soft spot for human rights OSR

Then you would be pro Israel
I care about human rights so I should support the side that blew up a refugee camp 10/10 logic

Look what we did in WW2 and you can see we did much worse than what  Israel just did . Anyway calling that place a refugee camp is stretching it given it has permanent buildings , a zoo and basically many things a refugee camp does not have .

This is the problem when literally every single action taken in a war is scrutinized by the media. It makes both sides look equally bad which is absurd here
Palestine is not an equivalent to Nazi Germany good grief also going down playing the camp is really morally gross
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« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2023, 10:46:48 PM »

FFs who are morally consistent on human rights unlike some

No they aren’t morally consistent. Supporting Palestine is completely ridiculous and proof many leftists really have a soft spot when it comes to Islamists
I have a soft spot for human rights OSR

Then you would be pro Israel
I care about human rights so I should support the side that blew up a refugee camp 10/10 logic

Look what we did in WW2 and you can see we did much worse than what  Israel just did . Anyway calling that place a refugee camp is stretching it given it has permanent buildings , a zoo and basically many things a refugee camp does not have .

This is the problem when literally every single action taken in a war is scrutinized by the media. It makes both sides look equally bad which is absurd here
Palestine is not an equivalent to Nazi Germany good grief also going down playing the camp is really morally gross

Ok look at what we did against ISIS

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« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2023, 10:50:39 PM »

FFs who are morally consistent on human rights unlike some

No they aren’t morally consistent. Supporting Palestine is completely ridiculous and proof many leftists really have a soft spot when it comes to Islamists
I have a soft spot for human rights OSR

Then you would be pro Israel
I care about human rights so I should support the side that blew up a refugee camp 10/10 logic

Look what we did in WW2 and you can see we did much worse than what  Israel just did . Anyway calling that place a refugee camp is stretching it given it has permanent buildings , a zoo and basically many things a refugee camp does not have .

This is the problem when literally every single action taken in a war is scrutinized by the media. It makes both sides look equally bad which is absurd here
Palestine is not an equivalent to Nazi Germany good grief also going down playing the camp is really morally gross

Ok look at what we did against ISIS


You don’t get the mindset of someone on the left if you think Obama’s methods during the war on terror is a positive example to us
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« Reply #19 on: November 11, 2023, 10:54:54 PM »

FFs who are morally consistent on human rights unlike some

No they aren’t morally consistent. Supporting Palestine is completely ridiculous and proof many leftists really have a soft spot when it comes to Islamists
I have a soft spot for human rights OSR

Then you would be pro Israel
I care about human rights so I should support the side that blew up a refugee camp 10/10 logic

Look what we did in WW2 and you can see we did much worse than what  Israel just did . Anyway calling that place a refugee camp is stretching it given it has permanent buildings , a zoo and basically many things a refugee camp does not have .

This is the problem when literally every single action taken in a war is scrutinized by the media. It makes both sides look equally bad which is absurd here
Palestine is not an equivalent to Nazi Germany good grief also going down playing the camp is really morally gross

Ok look at what we did against ISIS


You don’t get the mindset of someone on the left if you think Obama’s methods during the war on terror is a positive example to us

Does that make us just as bad as ISIS . This is the type of logic you guys are using to be pro Palestine
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« Reply #20 on: November 11, 2023, 10:59:10 PM »

Again supporting Palestinian rights ≠ supporting Hamas
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« Reply #21 on: November 11, 2023, 11:09:50 PM »

FFs who are morally consistent on human rights unlike some

No they aren’t morally consistent. Supporting Palestine is completely ridiculous and proof many leftists really have a soft spot when it comes to Islamists
I have a soft spot for human rights OSR

Then you would be pro Israel
I care about human rights so I should support the side that blew up a refugee camp 10/10 logic
Palestine has a far, far worse record on human rights than Israel. So many more things that you could list in the way they treat Jews and their own people.
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« Reply #22 on: November 11, 2023, 11:39:30 PM »

It depends what you mean by "support" and what you mean by "Palestine." All Russia supporters are evil, but not all Palestine supporters are.
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« Reply #23 on: November 11, 2023, 11:52:18 PM »
« Edited: November 12, 2023, 12:24:32 AM by FT-02 Senator A.F.E. 🇵🇸🤝🇺🇸🤝🇺🇦 »

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FFs who are morally consistent on human rights unlike some

No they aren’t morally consistent. Supporting Palestine is completely ridiculous and proof many leftists really have a soft spot when it comes to Islamists

In my case, have you considered the fact that, I, a Muslim, would be sympathetic to Islamism or no?
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« Reply #24 on: November 12, 2023, 12:01:46 AM »

It depends what you mean by "support" and what you mean by "Palestine." All Russia supporters are evil, but not all Palestine supporters are.

Western or obvious tin-pot ones [such as Eritrea or NK] anyway. I'd still have empathy for any remaining supporters from Armenia, given pretty much no else is there at all against Turkey and Azerbijian for support...even half-a%$d support.

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