Israel-Gaza war

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

Like a lot of people here, they don't really consider Palestinians worthy of human rights. It's no surprise they want them to starve in a desert. Just a total albatross of an "ally" who provide nothing but headaches.

And when the hell did "other awful nations did it too" become an excuse? Last I checked, regardless if you supported the wars or not, the United States at least tried to build semi-functioning nation-states in Iraq/Afghanistan. They never starved the civilians. Only nations partaking in genocide go that far.

Find me an example of the US going out of its way to deliver aid to a country or entity it was actively at war against at the moment.

Israel's conduct in this war is standard, if not exemplary. The reason for its treatment is because its very existence and acts of self-defense are considered a casus belli by its enemies.

[VBM]

https://twitter.com/_ZachFoster/status/1753050356106330471

Cool, and a majority of Palestinians supported 10/7

[Silent Hunter]

"Starve the population into surrender" has long been a standard strategy in war.

They are not in themselves illegal, but only against the armed forces:

https://www.icrc.org/en/document/protection-civilian-population-during-sieges-what-law-says

Egypt is arguably violating international law by stopping people from leaving Gaza.

[Meclazine for Israel]

Dog Parents Protected by Armoured Cars

IDF Promo

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C68ksXnCFJ1/

[Pres Mike]

Why was the thread moved?

[MyLifeIsYours]

Why was the thread moved?

Going to ask the same question when I saw thr thread moved to History.

[Pres Mike]

Egypt is arguably violating international law by stopping people from leaving Gaza.

If Egypt allowed people to leave Gaza, they would never be allowed to returned. This is the consensus of the global community. I really hate to argue this point for the 20th time in this thread

[ProudModerate2]

Israeli settlers attack Gaza bound aid convoy at West Bank crossing.

This is pathetic.
You know what level of ***hole you have to be, to do something like this?

[Rubensim]

Israeli settlers have been attacking Gaza aid trucks for months
when this war ends It going to take Israel decades to repair it relations.

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

Israeli settlers attack Gaza bound aid convoy at West Bank crossing.

This is pathetic.
You know what level of ***hole you have to be, to do something like this?

Pleasantly surprised that the Israeli government announced they had already made some arrests in this case.

Ben Gvir and Smotrich might be getting a little out of Bibi's control, which was thoroughly predictable.

[GoTfan]

Israeli settlers attack Gaza bound aid convoy at West Bank crossing.

This is pathetic.
You know what level of ***hole you have to be, to do something like this?

Pleasantly surprised that the Israeli government announced they had already made some arrests in this case.

Ben Gvir and Smotrich might be getting a little out of Bibi's control, which was thoroughly predictable.

The phrase 'deal with the devil' comes to mind.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Israeli settlers attack Gaza bound aid convoy at West Bank crossing.

This is pathetic.
You know what level of ***hole you have to be, to do something like this?

Pleasantly surprised that the Israeli government announced they had already made some arrests in this case.

Ben Gvir and Smotrich might be getting a little out of Bibi's control, which was thoroughly predictable.

The phrase 'deal with the devil' comes to mind.

Very much so

[Meclazine for Israel]

Egypt, UAE and Morocco weigh up proposal to form a post-Gaza war peacekeeping force.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/egypt-uae-morocco-said-weighing-us-plan-to-create-post-war-gaza-peacekeeping-force/

If only General MacArthur was here to give us his opinion.

[Pres Mike]

The Israeli Defense Minister, Yoav Gallant, has come out aganist a post war Israeli occupation of Gaza

https://www.timesofisrael.com/gallant-to-pm-reject-israeli-military-civil-rule-of-gaza-after-hamas-i-wont-allow-it/?utm_source=article_hpsidebar&utm_medium=desktop_site&utm_campaign=liveblog-may-15-2024

[Vice President Christian Man]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/10/middleeast/israel-sde-teiman-detention-whistleblowers-intl-cmd/index.html

If this source is credible, this would be extremely concerning and reminiscent of what the US did during the War on Terror. While I'll continue to support Israel's right to defend itself and exist, it's clear that Netanyahu has got to go and be replaced by someone who respects the dignity and human rights of Palestinian civilians.

[pppolitics]

The Unpunished: How Extremists Took Over Israel

After 50 years of failure to stop violence and terrorism against Palestinians by Jewish ultranationalists, lawlessness has become the law.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/16/magazine/israel-west-bank-settler-violence-impunity.html

[Pres Mike]

Like a lot of people here, they don't really consider Palestinians worthy of human rights. It's no surprise they want them to starve in a desert. Just a total albatross of an "ally" who provide nothing but headaches.

And when the hell did "other awful nations did it too" become an excuse? Last I checked, regardless if you supported the wars or not, the United States at least tried to build semi-functioning nation-states in Iraq/Afghanistan. They never starved the civilians. Only nations partaking in genocide go that far.

Find me an example of the US going out of its way to deliver aid to a country or entity it was actively at war against at the moment.

Iraq and Afghanistan

[emailking]

US-built floating pier that will allow delivery of humanitarian aid has been anchored in Gaza

The floating pier that will allow for humanitarian aid to flow into Gaza from the sea has been anchored to a beach in Gaza, according to US Central Command (CENTCOM).

Personnel anchored the pier at about 7:40 a.m. local time, “supporting the humanitarian mission to deliver additional humanitarian aid to Palestinian civilians,” CENTCOM said in a statement. The pier had traveled on Wednesday from the port of Ashdod, about 30 miles away, to the Gaza beach.

Trucks are expected to begin moving the humanitarian aid ashore in the coming days, while the United Nations will coordinate distribution within the besieged strip, CENTCOM said, adding that no US troops had entered Gaza.

The Joint Logistics Over-the-Shore (JLOTS) system consists of two parts: the floating pier where shipments will be offloaded and the causeway to transfer the shipments to the distribution point in Gaza.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/15/politics/us-gaza-pier-moving-construction/index.html

[pppolitics]

​Takeaways From the Times Investigation Into ‘The Unpunished’

For decades, most Israelis have considered Palestinian terrorism the country’s biggest security concern. But there is another threat that may be even more destabilizing for Israel’s future as a democracy: Jewish terrorism and violence, and the failure to enforce the law against it.

Our yearslong investigation reveals how violent factions within the Israeli settler movement, protected and sometimes abetted by the government, have come to pose a grave threat to Palestinians in the occupied territories and to the State of Israel itself. Piecing together new documents, videos and over 100 interviews, we found a government shaken by an internal war — burying reports it commissioned, neutering investigations it assigned and silencing whistle-blowers, some of them senior officials.

It is a blunt account, told in some cases for the first time by Israeli officials, of how the occupation came to threaten the integrity of the country’s democracy.

[...]

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/16/magazine/takeaways-investigation-settler-violence-impunity.html

[omar04]

Aryeh Neier, a cofounder of HRW thinks Israel is committing genocide based on "its sustained policy of obstructing the movement of humanitarian assistance into the territory".

As early as October 9 top Israeli officials declared that they intended to block the delivery of food, water, and electricity, which is essential for purifying water and cooking. Defense Minister Yoav Gallant’s words have become infamous: “I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed. We are fighting human animals and we act accordingly.” The statement conveyed the view that has seemed to guide Israel’s approach throughout the conflict: that Gazans are collectively complicit for Hamas’s crimes on October 7.

Since then Israel has restricted the number of vehicles allowed to enter Gaza, reduced the number of entry points, and conducted time-consuming and onerous inspections; destroyed farms and greenhouses; limited the delivery of fuel needed for the transport of food and water within the enclave; killed more than two hundred Palestinian aid workers, many of them employees of the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA), the principal aid provider in the blockaded territory before October 7; and persuaded many donors, including the United States, to stop funding UNRWA by claiming that a dozen of the agency’s 13,000 employees in Gaza were involved in the October 7 attack or have other connections to Hamas. (An investigation by former French foreign minister Catherine Colonna, released on April 22, concluded that Israel had provided no evidence to support its allegations and that UNRWA is “irreplaceable and indispensable.”) The air strikes on April 1 that destroyed all three vehicles in a World Central Kitchen convoy, killing six international aid workers and a Palestinian driver and translator, seemed a continuation of these policies. Israel’s explanation that this was the result of a “misidentification” has aroused skepticism. As a result, other humanitarian groups may be deterred from providing aid.

https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2024/06/06/is-israel-committing-genocide-aryeh-neier/

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Netanyahu's hands get redder every time more of the hostages turn up dead. Not as red as Hamas's, at least not in this particular way, but redder.

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

Netanyahu's hands get redder every time more of the hostages turn up dead. Not as red as Hamas's, at least not in this particular way, but redder.

He can't leave soon enough, but I'm not convinced that Hamas didn't just kill the remaining hostages after the first cease-fire broke down.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Netanyahu's hands get redder every time more of the hostages turn up dead. Not as red as Hamas's, at least not in this particular way, but redder.

He can't leave soon enough, but I'm not convinced that Hamas didn't just kill the remaining hostages after the first cease-fire broke down.

That's a real and distressing possibility as well, yeah.

[SnowLabrador]

US-built floating pier that will allow delivery of humanitarian aid has been anchored in Gaza

The floating pier that will allow for humanitarian aid to flow into Gaza from the sea has been anchored to a beach in Gaza, according to US Central Command (CENTCOM).

Personnel anchored the pier at about 7:40 a.m. local time, “supporting the humanitarian mission to deliver additional humanitarian aid to Palestinian civilians,” CENTCOM said in a statement. The pier had traveled on Wednesday from the port of Ashdod, about 30 miles away, to the Gaza beach.

Trucks are expected to begin moving the humanitarian aid ashore in the coming days, while the United Nations will coordinate distribution within the besieged strip, CENTCOM said, adding that no US troops had entered Gaza.

The Joint Logistics Over-the-Shore (JLOTS) system consists of two parts: the floating pier where shipments will be offloaded and the causeway to transfer the shipments to the distribution point in Gaza.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/15/politics/us-gaza-pier-moving-construction/index.html

This is purely performative and won't actually help the people of Gaza.

[GoTfan]

US-built floating pier that will allow delivery of humanitarian aid has been anchored in Gaza

The floating pier that will allow for humanitarian aid to flow into Gaza from the sea has been anchored to a beach in Gaza, according to US Central Command (CENTCOM).

Personnel anchored the pier at about 7:40 a.m. local time, “supporting the humanitarian mission to deliver additional humanitarian aid to Palestinian civilians,” CENTCOM said in a statement. The pier had traveled on Wednesday from the port of Ashdod, about 30 miles away, to the Gaza beach.

Trucks are expected to begin moving the humanitarian aid ashore in the coming days, while the United Nations will coordinate distribution within the besieged strip, CENTCOM said, adding that no US troops had entered Gaza.

The Joint Logistics Over-the-Shore (JLOTS) system consists of two parts: the floating pier where shipments will be offloaded and the causeway to transfer the shipments to the distribution point in Gaza.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/15/politics/us-gaza-pier-moving-construction/index.html

This is purely performative and won't actually help the people of Gaza.

As someone sympathetic to the campus protests, it's more than what those students have done.