Israel-Gaza war

[Logical]

Finally. The violent settlers are terrorists too.

[Anti-Trump Truth Socialite JD Vance Enjoying Juror]

An end to Israeli settlements would be a perfectly reasonable condition for continued American support. There is no possible justification for settlements, especially if you are trying to work towards a two-state solution.

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

An end to Israeli settlements would be a perfectly reasonable condition for continued American support. There is no possible justification for settlements, especially if you are trying to work towards a two-state solution.

It would be wildly unacceptable to demand Israel evacuate over half a million people from the West Bank in the middle of a war. The Biden administration is not going to use the worst crisis in Israel in half a century to extort concessions from its ally.

[Anti-Trump Truth Socialite JD Vance Enjoying Juror]

An end to Israeli settlements would be a perfectly reasonable condition for continued American support. There is no possible justification for settlements, especially if you are trying to work towards a two-state solution.

It would be wildly unacceptable to demand Israel evacuate over half a million people from the West Bank in the middle of a war. The Biden administration is not going to use the worst crisis in Israel in half a century to extort concessions from its ally.

If Israel doesn’t stop building settlements in the West Bank then the US shouldn’t be its ally. We shouldn’t be allies with a nation which is undertaking an active colonial project in AD 2023. If Israel wants aid they should commit to halting settlement. I did not say that everyone had to leave immediately. This is also something that I’ve believed for some time, and is frankly something that US aid to Israel should have been conditioned on in the past. It isn’t just about the current war.

[All Along The Watchtower]

Yeah, why is the Israeli government undermining the Palestinian Authority anyway? Don't they prefer them over Hamas?

[Ⓐnarchy in the ☭☭☭P!]

https://twitter.com/ryangrim/status/1725964279600263594

[Silent Hunter]

Just because they didn't plan to attack a music festival doesn't change the fact they attacked a music festival.

[pppolitics]

An end to Israeli settlements would be a perfectly reasonable condition for continued American support. There is no possible justification for settlements, especially if you are trying to work towards a two-state solution.

It would be wildly unacceptable to demand Israel evacuate over half a million people from the West Bank in the middle of a war. The Biden administration is not going to use the worst crisis in Israel in half a century to extort concessions from its ally.

There is no war in West Bank right now as far as I am aware.

[pppolitics]

Small but positive step from the Biden administration.

https://twitter.com/BarakRavid/status/1725976743234683347?t=XQctaMPpnlwDkwZ8rtVI...

It's a small step and long overdue, but progress nevertheless.

[Anti-Trump Truth Socialite JD Vance Enjoying Juror]

Just because they didn't plan to attack a music festival doesn't change the fact they attacked a music festival.

Serendipitous mass murder is different. They just happened across the music festival, which makes them blameless in cutting down hundreds of people in cold blood.

[Kahane's Grave Is A Gender-Neutral Bathroom]

BREAKING NEWS
https://twitter.com/NoLieWithBTC/status/1726053359516320103

[NYSforKennedy2024]

BREAKING NEWS
https://twitter.com/NoLieWithBTC/status/1726053359516320103

Huge Biden win, but the Hamas/Palestine crowd will be even more vile in their behavior now.

[Hindsight was 2020]

BREAKING NEWS
https://twitter.com/NoLieWithBTC/status/1726053359516320103

Thank Christ

[philly09]

Key word "Tentative"

[Meclazine for Israel]

Ridin' with Biden. Nice work.

Who says "153 years experience does not count"?

You certainly cannot criticise President Biden for lack of experience.

He has forgotten things most of us have not even learnt yet.

[Frodo]

If Israel could destroy Hamas and Islamic Jihad as a result of this war, it would have been all worth it in the end -at least to me.  And cutting off Gaza from the outside world by attacking first along the southern Rafah border, destroying the tunnel network there in the process preventing any chance of escape for Hamas and Islamic Jihad terrorists (keeping all the rats in one ship, so to speak), providing time to ensure the safety of hostages and minimizing civilian casualties while establishing refugee camps in the area under United Nations supervision before eventually moving in for the final kill in Gaza City would have been the best way to do that.  I see now that made too much sense for the Israeli leadership:

The Israeli military’s seizure of Al-Shifa Hospital, Gaza’s largest medical complex, is central to the military strategy at the heart of the ground invasion: Eradicate Hamas and free roughly 240 hostages taken during the Oct. 7 surprise attack.

(...) So far it is not clear that the Israeli strategy is working.

U.S. military officials said their Israeli counterparts tell them to expect more weeks of clearing operations in the north before Israel prepares a separate initiative in southern Gaza, widening the offensive.

But U.S. officials said Israel’s rapid decision to launch ground operations in the enclave left Israeli commanders little time for extensive planning to mitigate risks to civilians and all but guaranteed a high civilian death toll.

The hospital has become a particular flashpoint. The military has yet to present public evidence of an extensive tunnel network and command center under Al-Shifa, and Israel is coming under growing international pressure to show that the hospital was a critical military objective.

Targeting Al-Shifa Hospital was “not the result of a strategy,” said Giora Eiland, a retired major general in the Israel Defense Forces and former head of the Israeli National Security Council. “It is more an important tactical maneuver” in Israel’s attempt to control the narrative about Hamas, he said.

While Hamas commanders might have been under Al-Shifa at the start of the war, Mr. Eiland said, most of them have evacuated to the south. As a result, he said, Israel will have to evacuate civilians and target Hamas brigades there in the coming weeks and months. Mr. Eiland predicted that this might be complicated by an international community losing patience with Israel.

Yagil Levy, an expert on the Israeli military, said that attacking Al-Shifa was “a show of power and might rather than part of a clear strategy.” In doing so, Dr. Levy said, Israel might have jeopardized the hostages’ lives.

source

[Horus]

No deal yet per NSC.

https://twitter.com/NSC_Spox/status/1726064620387897370?t=3ZFWO2HD9eiWwBQ4mkebUA...

[Kahane's Grave Is A Gender-Neutral Bathroom]

https://twitter.com/aamer_rahman/status/1722641101528691193
Just to make you realize even better the crossroads where you as user are at... Do you consistently condemn genocide and more importantly... what side are you on? The good one?

I know i am. The question is: "are you?".

As a matter of fact we do. Can you say the same thing? You've equivocated on Hamas in the past, so it's kinda hypocritical.

It would bring me nothing but great joy to see a free and self determined Palestine. I’m not interested in dehumanizing Palestinians, or availing Israel of their choice in the slaughter of Palestinians, their upholding of an apartheid, or any sort of behavior akin to an ethnic cleansing.

Hamas though, is not a "revolutionary" body. They are first and foremost a political entity and do things for political reasons. They have a military wing, but the top of the chain is politicians (the majority of which live in luxury outside of Gaza). Israel had a choice in response, but their response was entirely predictable- or, as I've said before, understandable but not justified. And this time, they went out and did things that are so far beyond any specter of defensibility, no one with any real power is going to tell Israel to stop and it’s going to be a ing bloodbath, even more so than usual.

I know you know this, but I’ll say it anyways: this isn’t a soccer game. This isn’t blue jerseys against green jerseys, there’s way more parties to the conflict than that, and an ocean of context behind everything that happens. Most importantly, this is a situation where everyone can lose at the same time, and frankly they have been. It may be the most apt example of “nobody’s free until everybody’s free” in the world today. The Israelis are never not going to be living in fear until Palestinian liberation.

Pray for peace.

[NOVA Green]

Israel continues to hit civilian targets in Gaza...

A U.N. official said on Saturday that two schools run by his agency in northern Gaza had been bombarded in less than 24 hours, and video from one of the scenes, verified by The New York Times, showed many bloodied and motionless bodies at one.

Palestinian officials said on Saturday that many people were killed and injured in an Israeli attack that hit a U.N.-run school being used as a shelter by adults and children, in the Jabaliya area north of Gaza City. The Israeli military said it had received reports of “an incident” in the Jabaliya area and that it was under review.

A graphic video, whose location was verified by The Times, showed bodies lying amid widespread debris at the school, Al-Fakhura, which was run by UNRWA, the U.N. agency that aids Palestinian refugees.

The head of the agency, Philippe Lazzarini, said on social media on Saturday that he had received “horrifying images & footage of scores of people killed and injured” at an UNRWA school “sheltering thousands of displaced in the north of the Gaza Strip.”

Mr. Lazzarini later added that another UNRWA school had been “bombarded several times in the north of #Gaza sheltering more than 4,000 people.” He said this was the “second time in less than 24 hours schools are not spared. ENOUGH, these horrors must stop.”

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/11/19/world/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news

[Meclazine for Israel]

Israel and the US could get dragged into a Lebanon confrontation here.

https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1726157944797253835?s=20

[CumbrianLefty]

That has been "about to happen" since this all kicked off, however.

[Logical]

Mind you that every time a hostage deal is said to be "close", it is Netanyahu who got the cold feet, not Hamas.

[Silent Hunter]

Mind you that every time a hostage deal is said to be "close", it is Netanyahu who got the cold feet, not Hamas.

A five-day truce gives Hamas time to regroup and destroy evidence of any tunnels.

[Hnv1]

Mind you that every time a hostage deal is said to be "close", it is Netanyahu who got the cold feet, not Hamas.

That's inaccurate. Last time Sinwar got cold feet and disappeared for 24 hours. The problem is Hamas' leadership in Qatar actually has no control of him

[Birdish]

The Houthis just took control of a British owned ship coming from Turkey going to India through the Red Sea which was carrying cars with no Israelis on board. If you wanted to get the Saudis and Egypt pissed, that would be how.