Which Party is more dysfunctional: The GOP or UK Tories

[OSR stands with Israel]

The GOP will be on their 4th House leader since 2015 and have seen plenty of major Republicans get primaried out over the past decade. The UK Tories are on their 5th Prime Minister in that period and are now once again facing disarray

[Alben Barkley]

At least the Tories are able to relatively easily throw overboard any terrorist who hijacks their party.

The GOP has been held hostage by a madman and his cult for nearly a decade.

[OSR stands with Israel]

At least the Tories are able to relatively easily throw overboard any terrorist who hijacks their party.

The GOP has been held hostage by a madman and his cult for nearly a decade.

Yeah but you would think a party that doesnt need to face the wrath of primary voters would not be anywhere near this dysfunctional.

Also the UK Tories are partly able to do it cause the UK economy sucks so badly that its caused their poll numbers to plummet. That has not happened to the US economy which has benefited Trump as the fact is the pocketbook effect is very strong

[Aurelius2]

Rishi Sunak is the only national leader in the world who is genuinely focused on AI x-risks and the potential widespread upheavals even if the worst case possibilities do not occur. That counts for a lot, he's able to actually achieve something important despite the dysfunction surrounding him.

[Pericles]

The Republicans are much, much worse on policy-Liz Truss is a great fit for US politics as a dumb ideologue which is why conservative think tanks love her. It is also pathetic that these fights are about such basic things like funding the government and not defaulting on the national debt.

In terms of party unity, Trump as the effective party leader has a lot more authority and obedience than what Sunak gets from both office-holders and the public. Both parties are divided on policy but Republicans have largely accepted they're a populist America First party while the Tories are adrift with a deep identity crisis.

[courts]

At least the Tories are able to relatively easily throw overboard any terrorist who hijacks their party.

The GOP has been held hostage by a madman and his cult for nearly a decade.

Yeah but you would think a party that doesnt need to face the wrath of primary voters would not be anywhere near this dysfunctional.

just have open primaries

[DaleCooper]

I don't know if the GOP will be capable of governing at any point in the foreseeable future. Their base is stupid to the point where I am convinced that it must be some kind of disease. Even if they ever did accomplish anything productive their voters would find a reason to hate them for it. So all they can do to survive their primaries is engage in this endless public demonstration of antisocial behavior. It's pathetic.

[LabourJersey]

GOP is more dysfunctional because the US political system as a whole is less functional than the UK political system (though the UK is not by any means a particularly well run parliamentary democracy).

[Angel of Death]

No contest, as the Conservatives have a comfortable governing majority and are still flailing around helplessly.

[Barack Oganja]

Should have substituted Tories with Labour, they're the more dysfunctional UK party

[Senator Incitatus]

Clearly the Tories, who are trailing badly in the polls and are also British.

[GregTheGreat657]

The Tories since, despite the GOP’s other problems they somehow manage to maintain competitiveness

[Sir Mohamed]

The Tories at least have some policies, even if these are bad. The GOP is not serious at all.

[Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Bodies for Biden]

At least the Tories are able to relatively easily throw overboard any terrorist who hijacks their party.

The GOP has been held hostage by a madman and his cult for nearly a decade.

Yeah but you would think a party that doesnt need to face the wrath of primary voters would not be anywhere near this dysfunctional.

Perhaps this undermines your argument that no primaries = less dysfunction to some extent, no?

[Reactionary Libertarian]

The Tories since, despite the GOP’s other problems they somehow manage to maintain competitiveness

The US is a much more conservative country, with a political system that by a fluke currently favors Republicans, which is why the GOP stays competitive. It has nothing to do with competence. In fact, a GOP that was more like the Tories would routinely win landslide majorities in the US.

[OSR stands with Israel]

The Tories at least have some policies, even if these are bad. The GOP is not serious at all.

This isn’t really true lol . The UK Tories are known to basically be a party without any policy principles given how often change it and this is especially true since 2010. With republicans on the other hand you know that regardless who wins you’d get these economic policies :

- Tax Cuts
- Deregulation
- Pro Natural Gas/Oil Energy Policies

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

Should have substituted Tories with Labour, they're the more dysfunctional UK party

Not anymore. They purged their terror wing and sent them fleeing over to the Greens. They have a massive lead in the polls under their current leader.

[ingemann]

Clearly the Tories, even if they were better on everything else, the Brexit alone have been more damaging to UK than anything the Republicans have done yet. Of course some of it because the American economy is far more forgiving of incompetent management.

But there’s one thing which truly show why the Tories are the worst of the two. The Tories could get away with everything they did if they lived in a country with 300+ million inhabitant and the world’s biggest economy and their political program would also make much more sense in a country which was as religious and focused on culture wars as USA. In short the Tories are unaware what country they lives in, and that’s not something which can be said about the Republicans.

[Lief 🗽]

Say what you will about the Tories but at least they win elections. Their current dysfunction is if anything a result of how long they’ve been in power.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Say what you will about the Tories but at least they win elections. Their current dysfunction is if anything a result of how long they’ve been in power.

Yeah the Tories have been in power for 13 straight years and will be up to 14.5 years in power when the next election is called. That is longer consecutive period in power than the GOP has been at any time in over 100 years and they have had such a stretch 3 times(1951-1964, 1979-1997, 2010-present).

Even since 1979/1980: the Tories have been in power for 31 years and 24 of those 31 years have been with majorities while the GOP have been in power for 24 years with only 8 of those years being Trifectas.

[DrScholl]

The Tories since, despite the GOP’s other problems they somehow manage to maintain competitiveness

The Tories can't rig the constituencies lines and don't have an electoral college loophole so it's not really fair to compare them to the GOP. Much of the GOP's competitiveness is created by their own scheming.

[ProudModerate2]

I don't know if the GOP will be capable of governing at any point in the foreseeable future. Their base is stupid to the point where I am convinced that it must be some kind of disease. Even if they ever did accomplish anything productive their voters would find a reason to hate them for it. So all they can do to survive their primaries is engage in this endless public demonstration of antisocial behavior. It's pathetic.

This is an excellent summary of the current situation with the GOP.
I found the comment about "it being some kind of disease" to be most relevant, as I myself cannot fathom how or why anyone would want to follow trump and MAGA line-of-thinking. The only logical explanation is that it must be something like a "disease" that would/could describe this Hellish behavior.

[Person Man]

The Tories wishes they were everything their big brothers were.

[President Johnson]

Republicans, as their main objective only seems to be to destroy the government and fuel culture war nonsense.

[MABA 2020]

This is a really difficult as it could go either way, the GOP is certainly the scarier party and I'm concerned about the people in this country who aspire to make the Tories more like the Republicans.

Should have substituted Tories with Labour, they're the more dysfunctional UK party

Historically yes, currently no