Idea: chamber of Congress filled with representatives from each Native American reservation
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« on: April 21, 2023, 05:17:14 PM »

Essentially, it is like the Senate, but instead of 2 Senators/state, it is 2 representatives/reservation.

Only people currently enrolled as a member of a specific tribe vote in these races.

Each representative of a reservation serves a six-year term (like the Senate), and each reservation is randomly assigned two class numbers (I, II, or III), which indicates when their representatives are up for reelection (just like the Senate).

How would a chamber like this impact politics? What issues would become more prominent in political discussion should a chamber like this be implemented? Would Native Americans become more of a swing demographic, rather than being overwhelmingly Democratic?
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« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2023, 07:49:34 PM »

Doesn't New Zealand have something similar to this with it's Maori population?
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« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2023, 07:54:42 PM »

Doesn't New Zealand have something similar to this with it's Maori population?
New Zealand has distinct seats for its Moari population.
Imagine if Native Americans had their own set of House seats, basically.
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« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2023, 08:02:17 PM »

Doesn't New Zealand have something similar to this with it's Maori population?
New Zealand has distinct seats for its Moari population.
Imagine if Native Americans had their own set of House seats, basically.

Just to be clear, in this hypothetical, Native Americans would vote in both House races AND for representatives of their own tribe.
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« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2023, 09:59:21 PM »

Questions of whether the chamber's apportionment is fair would immediately come up, for one thing. A lot of reservations have very small numbers of enrolled members (literally like 100-200 total). Others have well over 100,000.

If you think the population difference between California and Wyoming is extreme, take a look at the Navajo Nation vs. the United Auburn Indian Community.
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« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2023, 04:58:00 AM »

Questions of whether the chamber's apportionment is fair would immediately come up, for one thing. A lot of reservations have very small numbers of enrolled members (literally like 100-200 total). Others have well over 100,000.

If you think the population difference between California and Wyoming is extreme, take a look at the Navajo Nation vs. the United Auburn Indian Community.

This would be structured like the Senate; each tribe would get 2 representatives. The same questions of fairness the Senate would have would apply to this chamber, too.
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« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2023, 04:33:43 AM »

Doesn't New Zealand have something similar to this with it's Maori population?
New Zealand has distinct seats for its Moari population.
Imagine if Native Americans had their own set of House seats, basically.

Just to be clear, in this hypothetical, Native Americans would vote in both House races AND for representatives of their own tribe.

In New Zealand, Maori get to choose to either be an eligible voter in the Maori seats or normal seats, but not both.
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« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2023, 06:15:02 PM »

The Cherokee may be entitled to a tribal delegate to the U.S. House of Representatives under the 1835 Treaty of New Echota.
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« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2023, 08:07:06 PM »

That would be quite abit of (additional) representatives ... would it not?
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« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2023, 10:18:31 AM »

That would be quite abit of (additional) representatives ... would it not?

The U.S. government recognizes 574 Native American tribes
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« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2023, 02:13:00 PM »

Not bad idea honestly.
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« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2023, 09:17:02 AM »

The Cherokee may be entitled to a tribal delegate to the U.S. House of Representatives under the 1835 Treaty of New Echota.

Uhh we never respected any of our treaties with the natives. I don't see why we would here.

You'd need a minimum limit since 200 or so people getting one rep is a bit too much. Maybe top ten or 15 tribes get a rep?
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« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2023, 08:52:58 PM »

The Cherokee may be entitled to a tribal delegate to the U.S. House of Representatives under the 1835 Treaty of New Echota.

Uhh we never respected any of our treaties with the natives. I don't see why we would here.

You'd need a minimum limit since 200 or so people getting one rep is a bit too much. Maybe top ten or 15 tribes get a rep?

Agreed. The tribe closest to me has literally a double-digit number of members living on the rez and about the same number living elsewhere. There's no reason they should elect two representatives to a national chamber.

Instead of excluding smaller tribes, I could see maybe "bundling" them into regional constituencies.
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« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2023, 02:20:49 AM »

The Cherokee may be entitled to a tribal delegate to the U.S. House of Representatives under the 1835 Treaty of New Echota.

Uhh we never respected any of our treaties with the natives. I don't see why we would here.

You'd need a minimum limit since 200 or so people getting one rep is a bit too much. Maybe top ten or 15 tribes get a rep?

Agreed. The tribe closest to me has literally a double-digit number of members living on the rez and about the same number living elsewhere. There's no reason they should elect two representatives to a national chamber.

Instead of excluding smaller tribes, I could see maybe "bundling" them into regional constituencies.

They might not take being bundled with a tribe that they potentially hate very well.
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« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2023, 06:12:34 PM »

The Cherokee may be entitled to a tribal delegate to the U.S. House of Representatives under the 1835 Treaty of New Echota.

Uhh we never respected any of our treaties with the natives. I don't see why we would here.

You'd need a minimum limit since 200 or so people getting one rep is a bit too much. Maybe top ten or 15 tribes get a rep?

Agreed. The tribe closest to me has literally a double-digit number of members living on the rez and about the same number living elsewhere. There's no reason they should elect two representatives to a national chamber.

Instead of excluding smaller tribes, I could see maybe "bundling" them into regional constituencies.

They might not take being bundled with a tribe that they potentially hate very well.

And I doubt they would take being excluded altogether well. There's no perfect solutions here.
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« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2023, 05:05:01 AM »

The Cherokee may be entitled to a tribal delegate to the U.S. House of Representatives under the 1835 Treaty of New Echota.

Uhh we never respected any of our treaties with the natives. I don't see why we would here.

You'd need a minimum limit since 200 or so people getting one rep is a bit too much. Maybe top ten or 15 tribes get a rep?

Agreed. The tribe closest to me has literally a double-digit number of members living on the rez and about the same number living elsewhere. There's no reason they should elect two representatives to a national chamber.

Instead of excluding smaller tribes, I could see maybe "bundling" them into regional constituencies.

They might not take being bundled with a tribe that they potentially hate very well.

And I doubt they would take being excluded altogether well. There's no perfect solutions here.
Toss them a choice. Be given a rep but with other tribes (like list them all) or waiver their rep but get an honorary rep.
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