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« Reply #800 on: April 01, 2023, 08:07:06 PM »

30-second mark to 02:50. Looks he made a new commercial alluding to the indictments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqi2bBpmSZU&t=35s&pp=2AEjkAIB




His commercial just makes you want to vomit.
I still can't believe that all his cult followers at rallies, and in the background in that commercial, are like 99% white people. Why is that? Doesn't the GOP see a problem with that? Any party should (here in the US).
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« Reply #801 on: April 01, 2023, 10:13:04 PM »

Had the J6 indictment happened before the Midterms, which D's were pleading with DOJ RS would have lost WI, OH and NC for sure and the NY seats they barely won and Vance twitted in Defense of TRUMP, so an indictment should of came before the Midterms


Also D's, not RS can sweep the 23 S Govs races

As I said we should add a seat or two in the S and net 17 H I expect a Filibuster proof Trifecta and win especially MO, MT and OH S and 17 H seats Kunce, Brown and Tester will win, just like Beasley, Ryan and Barnes would of won
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« Reply #802 on: April 01, 2023, 11:22:12 PM »

Trump wants the trial to be relocated to more conservative-leaning Staten Island because Manhattan is too unfair to him....

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-04-01/trump-indictment-latest-lawyers-may-ask-for-move-out-of-manhattan?leadSource=uverify%20wall#xj4y7vzkg

People like to move trials out of places where they think they are not getting a fair deal. The same thing happened in 1999-2000 when the 4 undercover NYPD cops that killed Amadou Diallo 41 times with bullets requested their trial out of the Bronx and into suburban Albany.

https://nypost.com/1999/12/17/judges-move-diallo-trial-upstate-rule-cops-cant-get-justice-in-city/
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« Reply #803 on: April 01, 2023, 11:26:46 PM »

Trump wants the trial to be relocated to more conservative-leaning Staten Island because Manhattan is too unfair to him....

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-04-01/trump-indictment-latest-lawyers-may-ask-for-move-out-of-manhattan?leadSource=uverify%20wall#xj4y7vzkg

People like to move trials out of places where they think they are not getting a fair deal. The same thing happened in 1999-2000 when the 4 undercover NYPD cops that killed Amadou Diallo 41 times with bullets requested their trial out of the Bronx and into suburban Albany.

https://nypost.com/1999/12/17/judges-move-diallo-trial-upstate-rule-cops-cant-get-justice-in-city/

What a horrific ruling by that judge.
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« Reply #804 on: April 01, 2023, 11:28:37 PM »

He has to show he can't get a fair trial there and the fact that it's liberal leaning is not grounds for that. Those people are his peers there.

Sometimes you can get a change of venue if local media has covered a case ad nauseum. But that's going to be true everywhere in the country for this.
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« Reply #805 on: April 02, 2023, 01:37:20 AM »

Since 1986 and McConnell has been in the S since 1984 and very much part of the Reagan Revolution and it's gonna end with Trump we are gonna net gain MO and FL and TX even in this Environment and 17/25 H seats because of Trump Redban and Old School doesn't know what this means it permanent ends the Reagan era which only brought on by the Assassinations of the Kennedy's JFK should of went to Los Angeles like Bobby did you campaign for Prez it was no need to take TX, Biden doesn't need TX he needs CA, but D's were obsess with S back in the sixties

Ds will become the PRi party I dont see Brown losing in this Environment
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« Reply #806 on: April 02, 2023, 01:42:21 AM »

30-second mark to 02:50. Looks he made a new commercial alluding to the indictments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqi2bBpmSZU&t=35s&pp=2AEjkAIB




His commercial just makes you want to vomit.
I still can't believe that all his cult followers at rallies, and in the background in that commercial, are like 99% white people. Why is that? Doesn't the GOP see a problem with that? Any party should (here in the US).

I mean, from an objective standpoint, it's a powerful ad for the base. At least, I can see why the average know-nothing voter would find that video appealing. Keeping the cult together and turning them out is what Trump needs to do. It's all he needs to do to beat DeSantis, and DeSantis would be starting out with an uphill battle right now.

Like Spectator said, DeSantis received a short boost after the midterms. But no one remembers or thinks about the midterms anymore. The nomination is still Trump's to lose.
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« Reply #807 on: April 02, 2023, 01:51:12 AM »
« Edited: April 02, 2023, 01:57:18 AM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »

72 percent of RS supports him but 55 of Indies reject him of course there are 65M R that vote in this country but we have 80M D's that vote that's what RS never learn you can have your maga rallies and still lose Eday by a landslide because due to CA, NY and IL the 3 largest Metros have more people than the South and we run the Economy especially CA because we pay more taxes not just Govt taxes on Goods and Services

The S is behind 6 mnths to 1 yr in styles than we are and Trump has more Indictments coming J6 and DOCUGATE and a jury in NY will convict him than a jury in GA, he might not get Indicted in GA

But him doing Maga rallies is good for Biden because Trump is helping his cause to be the Nominee
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« Reply #808 on: April 02, 2023, 02:13:25 AM »

The legal standard is not whether the expense was meant to influence the campaign. The legal standard is whether the expense was created by the campaign and would have been objectively paid irrespective of the campaign. You might want a different standard (eg - “I don’t care about the suit analogy”), but what you want isn’t a consideration

The legal standard is would the payment have been made but for the campaign. To me it is clear it would not have been. That it was intended to influence the campaign is part of why I conclude that. The other part of why I conclude that is he turned he down before.

So if the $130k payment is, as you claim, a campaign finance contribution, then would Trump have been within his rights to use campaign donor funds to issue the payment (as opposed to his personal funds)? That means money that was given to him by his supporters and fundraisers - do you think Trump could have legally used that money to pay the $130k?


I'm not sure the payment is legal at all without reporting it somewhere, even if there was no campaign. For example, you can't give somebody more than $16,000 in a year as a gift without reporting it to the IRS. There could been multiple laws he's violated here. So not an expert on this, but no I don't think he could have paid it out of campaign donor funds and done no reporting on the payment.

This is an extremely good point. Putting aside the campaign expense vs. not campaign expense argument for a moment, trump clearly lied about and attempted to conceal what these funds were for, and who they were paid by, by fraudulently listing them as legal fees and having his attorney, Michael Cohen, pay them for him while he reimbursed him. It's pretty easy to see this being viewed as fraud at a minimum.
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« Reply #809 on: April 02, 2023, 04:38:57 AM »

Tyranny.
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« Reply #810 on: April 02, 2023, 06:17:08 AM »



What is?
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« Reply #811 on: April 02, 2023, 08:23:09 AM »

Yeah I feel 17 seats and a seat or Two is coming in Fall 24 and we sweep the S Govs 23, it can be more not less TX and WV and 30 seats depends on Docugate and J6 Indictments and GA Trunk will be convicted before a NY jury

48 S seats and D's take over the house Hogwash
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« Reply #812 on: April 02, 2023, 08:27:48 AM »

Trump wants the trial to be relocated to more conservative-leaning Staten Island because Manhattan is too unfair to him....

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-04-01/trump-indictment-latest-lawyers-may-ask-for-move-out-of-manhattan?leadSource=uverify%20wall#xj4y7vzkg

People like to move trials out of places where they think they are not getting a fair deal. The same thing happened in 1999-2000 when the 4 undercover NYPD cops that killed Amadou Diallo 41 times with bullets requested their trial out of the Bronx and into suburban Albany.

https://nypost.com/1999/12/17/judges-move-diallo-trial-upstate-rule-cops-cant-get-justice-in-city/

Trump's sister is a judge from New York. Maybe she is advising him on what to do to reduce the possibility of a conviction.

The charges do seem a bit, excuse the pun, 'Trumped - Up'.
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« Reply #813 on: April 02, 2023, 08:41:19 AM »

The charges do seem a bit, excuse the pun, 'Trumped - Up'.

Is this the same kind of "expert" opinion we have become accustomed to get from you, like when you estimated that the COVID pandemic or the Ukraine war would both be over within a week because COVID is totally harmless and Russia's Army is so powerful?

What specifically do you regard as "trumped up" in the yet to be released charges?

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« Reply #814 on: April 02, 2023, 09:21:34 AM »

I don't worry about wave insurance based on polls I worry about wave insurance when Steve Konraki starts Eday big board because RS were supposed have 240 seats and they got 220 that's why Approvals and ratings don't matter until Eday, that prove that it's wave insurance since the H wasn't called earlier for Rs

Biden leads in NC this early even if it's against Trump not DeSantis, DeSantis isn't a liberal he is a Conserv he is still disadvantage in Trump Indictments era like McCain and Romney were in Bush W era
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« Reply #815 on: April 02, 2023, 09:39:21 AM »

Bruh I’m watching this thing with Robert Costa, who the hell is that, I thought they just gave Bob Costas a more professional name.
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« Reply #816 on: April 02, 2023, 09:42:36 AM »


Oh goodie this should be good
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« Reply #817 on: April 02, 2023, 09:55:58 AM »


Oh goodie this should be good

Probably more NFTs, or a similar grift. With a side helping of terrorist fatwa to his cult.
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« Reply #818 on: April 02, 2023, 10:08:18 AM »


Oh goodie this should be good

Isn't there a chance he'll be issued a gag order at his arraignment, though?
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« Reply #819 on: April 02, 2023, 10:11:34 AM »

He will try to get the Nelson Mandela/Lula narrative out of this but it will most likely fail. I think he’s way more disposable to his political movement than these other two figures, simply because his movement is mainly for his self-serve.
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« Reply #820 on: April 02, 2023, 10:54:16 AM »

Trump wants the trial to be relocated to more conservative-leaning Staten Island because Manhattan is too unfair to him....

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-04-01/trump-indictment-latest-lawyers-may-ask-for-move-out-of-manhattan?leadSource=uverify%20wall#xj4y7vzkg

People like to move trials out of places where they think they are not getting a fair deal. The same thing happened in 1999-2000 when the 4 undercover NYPD cops that killed Amadou Diallo 41 times with bullets requested their trial out of the Bronx and into suburban Albany.

https://nypost.com/1999/12/17/judges-move-diallo-trial-upstate-rule-cops-cant-get-justice-in-city/

What a horrific ruling by that judge.

Yes, that Diallo trial was a travesty, it led to more police-civilian distrust in the Bronx and other urban areas in America.

Bruce Springsteen sang about it and was demonized by the police union after...

https://www.nytimes.com/2000/06/13/nyregion/springsteen-song-about-diallo-prompts-anger-from-police.html
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« Reply #821 on: April 02, 2023, 11:09:31 AM »

Trump wants the trial to be relocated to more conservative-leaning Staten Island because Manhattan is too unfair to him....

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-04-01/trump-indictment-latest-lawyers-may-ask-for-move-out-of-manhattan?leadSource=uverify%20wall#xj4y7vzkg

People like to move trials out of places where they think they are not getting a fair deal. The same thing happened in 1999-2000 when the 4 undercover NYPD cops that killed Amadou Diallo 41 times with bullets requested their trial out of the Bronx and into suburban Albany.

https://nypost.com/1999/12/17/judges-move-diallo-trial-upstate-rule-cops-cant-get-justice-in-city/

What a horrific ruling by that judge.

Yes, that Diallo trial was a travesty, it led to more police-civilian distrust in the Bronx and other urban areas in America.

Bruce Springsteen sang about it and was demonized by the police union after...

https://www.nytimes.com/2000/06/13/nyregion/springsteen-song-about-diallo-prompts-anger-from-police.html

I wonder if Amadou Diallo has any relation to Nkechi Amare Diallo.
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« Reply #822 on: April 02, 2023, 12:11:05 PM »


Did the Central Park Five get a change of venue when Donald was running full-page ads calling for their execution?
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« Reply #823 on: April 02, 2023, 12:14:11 PM »


Oh goodie this should be good

Isn't there a chance he'll be issued a gag order at his arraignment, though?

Even if he is, do you really think Donald is going to obey a court order he doesn't like? He'll say what he wants to say, then let his unpaid lawyers try to run interference and drag things out. It's possible the courts are sick enough of his criminal act to throw the book at him if he does, but I wouldn't count on it. 
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« Reply #824 on: April 02, 2023, 12:21:20 PM »

It's NY on a Misdemeanor charge he will be convicted but in the felony charge he will be Acquitted


I know how it's gonna play out Trump isn't gonna get off Scott Free, they want to show that Trump is liable some way and acquitting him just like impeachment doesn't bode nothing for his arrogamce
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