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« on: February 06, 2023, 08:06:02 PM »
« edited: February 06, 2023, 08:11:45 PM by lfromnj »

https://www.economist.com/united-states/2023/02/04/american-universities-are-hiring-based-on-devotion-to-diversity

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The university of California, Berkeley is currently advertising for a “director of cell culture, fly food, media prep and oncall glass washing facilities”. Applicants need an advanced degree and a decade of research experience, and must submit a cv, a cover letter and a research statement—as well as a statement on their contributions to advancing diversity, equity and inclusion. Seemingly everyone (this director, the next head of preservation for the library, anyone who dreams of a tenured professorship) must file a statement outlining their understanding of diversity, their past contributions to it and their plans “for advancing equity and inclusion” if hired.

Not long ago, such statements were exotic and of marginal importance. Now they are de rigueur across most of the University of California system for hiring and tenure decisions. Studies claim that as many as one in five faculty jobs across America require them. And government agencies that fund scientific research are starting to make grants to labs conditional upon their diversity metrics and plans.

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In 2018 Berkeley launched a “cluster search” for five faculty to teach biological sciences. From 894 applications, it created a longlist based on diversity statements alone, eliminating 680 candidates without examining their research or other credentials. This “yielded significant increases in urm [underrepresented minority] candidates advanced to shortlist consideration”, a university memo reported.

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« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2023, 08:14:25 PM »

Hopefully the Supreme Court rules that affirmative action is unconstitutional
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« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2023, 08:17:55 PM »

Hopefully the Supreme Court rules that affirmative action is unconstitutional

If you could read the full article(There is a paywall) the belief is that universities will use diversity statements to continue to enact affirmative action even if it is banned.
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« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2023, 08:24:05 PM »

White men are not oppressed. You ing control most of the seats in Congress, most seats in legislative bodies, most gubernatorial offices, most administration of corporations, etc and you all still aren't satisfied.

Reality check aside, this isn't affirmative action. It's a request for a statement on diversity to make sure the staff shares the goals of the university.
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« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2023, 08:26:07 PM »

White men are not oppressed. You ing control most of the seats in Congress, most seats in legislative bodies, most gubernatorial offices, most administration of corporations, etc and you all still aren't satisfied.

Reality check aside, this isn't affirmative action. It's a request for a statement on diversity to make sure the staff shares the goals of the university.

Neither Lfromnj or I are White
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« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2023, 08:29:05 PM »
« Edited: February 06, 2023, 08:35:43 PM by DrScholl »

White men are not oppressed. You ing control most of the seats in Congress, most seats in legislative bodies, most gubernatorial offices, most administration of corporations, etc and you all still aren't satisfied.

Reality check aside, this isn't affirmative action. It's a request for a statement on diversity to make sure the staff shares the goals of the university.

Neither Lfromnj or I are White


Bismarck made a statement that everyone is ganging up on White men. And even some non-White conservatives believe similar things.
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« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2023, 08:31:52 PM »

White men are not oppressed. You ing control most of the seats in Congress, most seats in legislative bodies, most gubernatorial offices, most administration of corporations, etc and you all still aren't satisfied.

Reality check aside, this isn't affirmative action. It's a request for a statement on diversity to make sure the staff shares the goals of the university.

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« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2023, 08:41:10 PM »

White men are not oppressed. You ing control most of the seats in Congress, most seats in legislative bodies, most gubernatorial offices, most administration of corporations, etc and you all still aren't satisfied.

Reality check aside, this isn't affirmative action. It's a request for a statement on diversity to make sure the staff shares the goals of the university.

Neither Lfromnj or I are White
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« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2023, 08:46:21 PM »

The victim complex that conservatives and evangelicals have is so massive, my god. Such snowflakes who want special treatment.
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« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2023, 09:58:54 PM »

White men are not oppressed. You ing control most of the seats in Congress, most seats in legislative bodies, most gubernatorial offices, most administration of corporations, etc and you all still aren't satisfied.

Reality check aside, this isn't affirmative action. It's a request for a statement on diversity to make sure the staff shares the goals of the university.

Neither Lfromnj or I are White


Bismarck made a statement that everyone is ganging up on White men. And even some non-White conservatives believe similar things.

I don’t believe everyone is ganging up on white men. Most people are just living their lives. I said diversity ideology mostly just means being against white men, especially if they are straight and of a Christian background.
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« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2023, 10:26:21 PM »

Academics (especially new hires) are over-worked as is; it's a waste to add an additional expectation of "promoting" "diversity" (whatever that means) when the easiest way to do that as a university is recruit, admit, and maintain more diverse students which is beyond the scope of a new hire at a place like Berkeley.
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« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2023, 08:25:14 AM »

The victim complex that conservatives and evangelicals have is so massive, my god. Such snowflakes who want special treatment.

In this case it's the diversity devotees who are getting special treatment.
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« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2023, 10:53:33 AM »

The victim complex that conservatives and evangelicals have is so massive, my god. Such snowflakes who want special treatment.

In this case it's the diversity devotees who are getting special treatment.

Yeah did anyone actually read that Berkeley application blurb?. 3/4 of all applications are thrown out literally on one statement.
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« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2023, 10:58:47 AM »

White men are not oppressed. You ing control most of the seats in Congress, most seats in legislative bodies, most gubernatorial offices, most administration of corporations, etc and you all still aren't satisfied.

Reality check aside, this isn't affirmative action. It's a request for a statement on diversity to make sure the staff shares the goals of the university.
when you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression
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« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2023, 11:12:38 AM »

I support affirmative Action for conservatives. White supremacy is alive and a direct threat to the conservative minority
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« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2023, 11:13:41 AM »

I support affirmative Action for conservatives
There are more conservatives in university than you think, its just that we're afraid to say something that gets us booted out...
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« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2023, 11:33:18 AM »

Hopefully the Supreme Court rules that affirmative action is unconstitutional

If you could read the full article(There is a paywall) the belief is that universities will use diversity statements to continue to enact affirmative action even if it is banned.


You can register for The Economist for free to escape the paywall.

Requiring running laps in the promulgation of diversity lane would not per se raise Constitutional issues. It is only if in the application of such a stricture, it turns out that the only ones who make it around the track no matter what else was accomplished, are persons deemed by their race or ethnicity to add to diversity just by showing up. It will take time to gather the evidence that it is but a subterfuge. By then, what is in legal fashion may have changed. The law is often at once a blunt and ineffectual instrument.
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« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2023, 11:44:16 AM »

White men are not oppressed. You ing control most of the seats in Congress, most seats in legislative bodies, most gubernatorial offices, most administration of corporations, etc and you all still aren't satisfied.

Reality check aside, this isn't affirmative action. It's a request for a statement on diversity to make sure the staff shares the goals of the university.
when you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression

If it was true equality, Berkeley would be solely looking at the applicants' field resumes and capability to teach when considering hiring someone to be a biological sciences professor, so you have it completely backwards.
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« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2023, 12:32:30 PM »

I support affirmative Action for conservatives
There are more conservatives in university than you think, its just that we're afraid to say something that gets us booted out...
some of the things conservatives say deserve to be met with societal expulsion.
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« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2023, 12:35:03 PM »

White men are not oppressed. You ing control most of the seats in Congress, most seats in legislative bodies, most gubernatorial offices, most administration of corporations, etc and you all still aren't satisfied.

Reality check aside, this isn't affirmative action. It's a request for a statement on diversity to make sure the staff shares the goals of the university.
when you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression

How Can Mirrors Be Real If Our Eyes Aren’t Real
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« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2023, 12:41:20 PM »

White men are not oppressed. You ing control most of the seats in Congress, most seats in legislative bodies, most gubernatorial offices, most administration of corporations, etc and you all still aren't satisfied.

Reality check aside, this isn't affirmative action. It's a request for a statement on diversity to make sure the staff shares the goals of the university.
when you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression

How Can Mirrors Be Real If Our Eyes Aren’t Real
straight, Christian, right-winged white men would do well to understand both of those sayings.
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« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2023, 12:53:36 PM »

I support affirmative Action for conservatives
There are more conservatives in university than you think, its just that we're afraid to say something that gets us booted out...
some of the things conservatives say deserve to be met with societal expulsion.

Do you not have any self awareness given some of the things you yourself have posted before .
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« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2023, 12:55:58 PM »

I support affirmative Action for conservatives
There are more conservatives in university than you think, its just that we're afraid to say something that gets us booted out...
some of the things conservatives say deserve to be met with societal expulsion.

Do you not have any self awareness given some of the things you yourself have posted before .
CC is really on roll with their bullying, "shut him up" tactics
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« Reply #23 on: February 09, 2023, 12:57:57 PM »

Anyway, even if this doesn’t discriminate against white men, it’s still retarded. Diversity statements do not tell the school anything about an applicant. They just force the applicant to write what they think the hiring department wants to hear. It’s not about seeing a different side of the applicant; it’s about forcing them to speak in a certain way and to submit themselves to an arbitrary process in order to subordinate them to the whims of the fascists in HR. It’s authoritarian social conditioning.
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« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2023, 01:35:05 PM »

I support affirmative Action for conservatives
There are more conservatives in university than you think, its just that we're afraid to say something that gets us booted out...
some of the things conservatives say deserve to be met with societal expulsion.
I agree and some things liberals say do too. I meant more like just being a Republican is enough for some places to not like you anymore...
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