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« Reply #25 on: January 25, 2023, 06:15:03 PM »

1. Where's the lie?

2. #BothSidesDoIt

3. Why aren't more people away from the right like this?
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« Reply #26 on: January 25, 2023, 06:19:06 PM »

BREAKING NEWS!
Man on the street has opinion about something.

brb Marisa Pyle = man


Exactly how I expected her to look.

...huh? What does this even mean?

Did you expect her to be nonwhite? Did you expect her to have short hair? Did you expect her to have glasses?

She's not white? Could've fooled me.

And yes, actually, I expected her to have either short or colored hair, and glasses in that style.
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« Reply #27 on: January 25, 2023, 06:21:04 PM »

And yes, actually, I expected her to have either short or colored hair, and glasses in that style.

Are people with short hair and glasses more likely to oppose the police? I don't understand.
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« Reply #28 on: January 25, 2023, 06:23:30 PM »

And yes, actually, I expected her to have either short or colored hair, and glasses in that style.

Are people with short hair and glasses more likely to oppose the police? I don't understand.

She just looks like the stereotypical ACAB white chick. To a T. Idk why this is bothering you so much, if a fat, old stuffy GOP advisor said the police should be "more brutal" or something, I would picture a certain type of person in my head and probably be right as well.
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« Reply #29 on: January 25, 2023, 06:44:25 PM »

Insert trump's name and a top adviser here and this thread becomes
1. 12 pages long
2. No red avy posts like "ok and?
3. A thread about the right being terrorists
4. No mental gymnastics
5. Atlas condemning the statement


This is the two-tier Schmidtian system
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« Reply #30 on: January 25, 2023, 07:48:43 PM »

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"You cannot commit violence against a window or a car. Killing a human? Now that, that is violence,"

True.

Violence (N): "Behavior involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something."

Under your definition, January 6th was "nonviolent." Let's add this to the long (and rapidly growing) list of words that leftists don't understand!
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« Reply #31 on: January 25, 2023, 07:57:01 PM »

GOP congressmen said January 6th was nothing more than a tourist visit.

Donald Trump said the insurrectionists that day are great patriots.

Yea, I'm doing a bit of whataboutism. But I'm doing so more to illustrate that the two sides are not the same.

(PS--the Abrams adviser is absolutely wrong.)
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« Reply #32 on: January 25, 2023, 08:03:17 PM »

“Smashing windows and police cars is morally equivalent to or worse than cops extrajudicially murdering people” is what people outraged by this are basically saying.
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« Reply #33 on: January 25, 2023, 08:41:06 PM »

I'm going to surprise people here and say not only is this a $hit take, but Abrams really needs to cut ties with this person if she ever wants to deserve consideration for higher office. I don't mean that just as political expediency, but that's not an appropriate or reasoned view point for anyone high up in the administration of say the governor of a medium-sized state.
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« Reply #34 on: January 25, 2023, 09:08:51 PM »

GOP congressmen said January 6th was nothing more than a tourist visit.

Donald Trump said the insurrectionists that day are great patriots.

Yea, I'm doing a bit of whataboutism. But I'm doing so more to illustrate that the two sides are not the same.

(PS--the Abrams adviser is absolutely wrong.)

LOLOLOLOL
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« Reply #35 on: January 26, 2023, 09:05:28 AM »

Yes, the story here would be if Abrams does not take the opportunity to dissociative herself from the advisor's opinion. I suspect her ambitions for statewide office have ceased to be a thing in any event, so it does not matter much. She's done.
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« Reply #36 on: January 26, 2023, 09:56:01 AM »

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"You cannot commit violence against a window or a car. Killing a human? Now that, that is violence,"

True.

Well, it's poor wording though and anyone familar with politics should know that such phrases can easily be taken out of context.

Burning cars and smashing windows is still a form of vandalism and a felony. Certainly it doesn't help resolve the problems said people complain about, no matter how legitimate the cause.
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« Reply #37 on: January 26, 2023, 11:21:50 AM »

The violence/destruction seen during the BLM riots was wrong.

The violence/destruction seen during the 1/6 Capitol insurrection was wrong.

The difference between both events is their desired goals: one was a call against racial intolerance and police brutality while the other was an attempt to install a dictator. The protests during both events was fine; the violence during each event was not fine, though only one was inherently worse than the other in terms of continued democracy in America.

This has long been settled, let's move on.
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« Reply #38 on: January 26, 2023, 12:28:18 PM »

Insert trump's name and a top adviser here and this thread becomes
1. 12 pages long
2. No red avy posts like "ok and?
3. A thread about the right being terrorists
4. No mental gymnastics
5. Atlas condemning the statement

This is the two-tier Schmidtian system


Imagine someone actually trying to compare the importance/significance of someone like Abrams to trump (POTUS).
"LOLOLOLOL"
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« Reply #39 on: January 26, 2023, 06:43:04 PM »

Did people just forget about the shameless lawlessness of the cops themselves during the 2020 protests (and all the time, but it was especially noticeable then since they were literally assaulting and arresting journalists on live TV)?

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« Reply #40 on: January 26, 2023, 06:45:54 PM »
« Edited: January 27, 2023, 07:24:37 AM by Benjamin Frank »

If this Stacey Abrams advisor speaks for all Democrats as the OP seems determined to suggest, then does the South Dakota County Republican Party Chair being arrested for possession of child pornography mean that all Republicans (allegedly) are into child pornography?
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« Reply #41 on: January 26, 2023, 06:58:37 PM »
« Edited: January 26, 2023, 07:13:22 PM by Benjamin Frank »

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"You cannot commit violence against a window or a car. Killing a human? Now that, that is violence,"

True.

Violence (N): "Behavior involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something."

Under your definition, January 6th was "nonviolent." Let's add this to the long (and rapidly growing) list of words that leftists don't understand!

Many police officers were physically assaulted on January 6th.

'Approximately 1,000' assaults on law enforcement occurred during Capitol attack, DOJ review finds.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/approximately-1000-assaults-law-enforcement-occurred-capitol-attack/story?id=79793226

I'm not sure how many specific officers, but it seems once again that it is your understanding of the details of that day that is in question, and not that there is any problem with 'leftists.'
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« Reply #42 on: January 26, 2023, 09:50:42 PM »

Insert trump's name and a top adviser here and this thread becomes
1. 12 pages long
2. No red avy posts like "ok and?
3. A thread about the right being terrorists
4. No mental gymnastics
5. Atlas condemning the statement

This is the two-tier Schmidtian system


Imagine someone actually trying to compare the importance/significance of someone like Abrams to trump (POTUS).
"LOLOLOLOL"



yall moving the goalposts like crazy now LMAO
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« Reply #43 on: January 27, 2023, 10:05:44 AM »

Serious question: why didn’t anyone challenge her in the Governor primary last year?
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« Reply #44 on: January 27, 2023, 10:09:35 AM »

Serious question: why didn’t anyone challenge her in the Governor primary last year?

Because she is or was seen as the clear leader of GA Dems. Having just narrowly lost before also gave her a case to try again.

That said, she should have skipped this race and try again in 2026. Now that she's lost twice, a winning 2026 bid becomes far less likely.
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« Reply #45 on: January 27, 2023, 07:33:01 PM »
« Edited: January 27, 2023, 07:36:08 PM by Primadonna Socialist »

Quote
"You cannot commit violence against a window or a car. Killing a human? Now that, that is violence,"

True.

Violence (N): "Behavior involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something."

Under your definition, January 6th was "nonviolent." Let's add this to the long (and rapidly growing) list of words that leftists don't understand!

Let's be honest about the real conversation we're having; it isn't over the semantics of 'violence' it's about equating the extrajudicial killing of civilians by cops to the ensuing rage that fuels riots and the burning of police vehicles, breaking windows, grafting etc. Do I condone those actions? No. I've said before they're counterproductive to the wider cause. But as RFK said riots are the voice of those who go unheard and their rage isn't without merit. And there isn't any way to even remotely compare protesting the death of a community member at the hands of an unjust and brutal policing system in this country against the protest of that system, and a cop car, or a window, or 'property damage' will always be replaceable while human life is not.
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« Reply #46 on: January 27, 2023, 07:37:18 PM »

I'm a nobody with a few controversial opinions. Where's my thread? I want to hear people whine about me and try to make big deals over nothing.

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« Reply #47 on: January 27, 2023, 11:39:04 PM »

Serious question: why didn’t anyone challenge her in the Governor primary last year?

Because she is or was seen as the clear leader of GA Dems. Having just narrowly lost before also gave her a case to try again.

That said, she should have skipped this race and try again in 2026. Now that she's lost twice, a winning 2026 bid becomes far less likely.

One thing I've never understood is losing GA in a super D-friendly year isn't very impressive, she didn't even force a runoff.

I have no doubt her work impacted turnout and engagement for the better, but she was never some sort of electoral god, quite the opposite.
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« Reply #48 on: January 27, 2023, 11:40:52 PM »

I could bring up plenty of loony stuff people associated with Doug Mastriano have said, but who cares?

This lady is just as relevant as any Mastriano advisors.
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« Reply #49 on: January 28, 2023, 02:03:49 PM »

Insert trump's name and a top adviser here and this thread becomes
1. 12 pages long
2. No red avy posts like "ok and?
3. A thread about the right being terrorists
4. No mental gymnastics
5. Atlas condemning the statement


This is the two-tier Schmidtian system

Trump is a former POTUS and likely the GOP nominee in ‘24, Abrams is basically a nobody who’s 15 minutes ended years ago and just a lost a winnable race by almost 10 points, see the difference?
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