Brazilian Congress stormed by Bolsonaro supporters

[buritobr]

Maybe the international left should stop demonizing every cop and making their job more politically aligned and let them do their jobs without politicization.

This is what happens when you create fissures.

You are the most marble-brained person on the planet if you really believe this. How deeply unserious and intellectually dishonest of you to blame “the left” (whatever you mean by that) after another demonstration of right wing violence and disrespect for democracy. You are not an independent thinker, you are a contrarian. This point you made here has nothing to do with the topic at hand, yet you made it just to do a both sides moment. Congrats, man. You’ve sunk to making excuses for political terrorism. Very moderate of you.

Dude...your living in F-ing bubble.  The same F-ing talking points the left uses in the US is regurgitated in Brazil, Italy, Israel, etc. Every opposition candidate and their supporters is a dangerous right-wing extremist and Putin-Apologist that leads a group of racist, xenophobic zealots.  The same media articles always highlight as much dirt against them, while ignoring serious issues concerning the left-wing candidate.  They think you're out to get them, because you are to get them, whether you or not you do it with clean hands.  The hardline rhetoric of Leftists have engendered fear among Bolsonaro voters, and opposition parties across the world.  

For example, The voters in Israel realized that the left-wing media and Biden White House were tipping the scale for Herzog after failing to take down Netanyahu with flimsy corruption charges.  The Democrats have seriously abused the criminal justice system in state and biased circuit courts to convict Trump of something, and they have dispensed of any long-standing preferential treatment of a former President.  Prosecutors have spent years fishing for some evidence, and going after his business associates.  

In contrast, Lula was convicted of serious corruption charges and money-laundering.  The Supreme Court in Brazil changed their own evidentiary precedent that they recently solidified just to get Lula out of prison.  That's a legal Hail Mary. Every article pretends like Lula was vindicated even though it was a mere technicality.  Without a doubt the man committed the crime, and he went back to politics where he would be in a position to commit the same offense.  And this wasn't a one-off bribery scandal.  The prosecutor had powerful evidence to convict Lula.  Of course the public thinks a career criminal rigged the election, and everyone knows Lula's party is out for blood.  Bolsonaro left the country cause he fears imprisonment on BS charges. The left will justify anything to keep this guy from assuming office.  

BTW... Ya'll know millions people in Brazil have been protesting for months. Immediately after election there were huge protests across the country.  Unlike in the United States, these people have many legitimate beefs aside from vitriolic political attacks, and they have nothing to lose.  This may be a legitimate insurrection in the making.  You brought it on yourselves.

Not millions, but only some thousands of vagabunds who block highways and protest in front of military buildings supporting a coup d'estat.
There was an election on October 30th 2022, 60,345,999 people voted for Lula, 58,206,354 voted for Bolsonaro, and so, Lula has a legitimate term until December 31st 2026 and these attempts to remove him from the office before this date is anti-democratic criminal activity

[Pres Mike]

I hope the Brazil Supreme Court issues an arrest warrent for Bolsonaro, which they very much have the power to do.

The Biden adminsitration should than extradite Bolsonaro immedititly.

[TDAS04]

Yikes.  This is what you get when you elect Trump/Bolsonaro in the first place.  These are the kind of people who support them.

[Progressive Pessimist]

I guess this really was always inevitable. We probably got lulled into a false sense of security when it looked like it wasn't going to happen. Really it just took longer than expected.

Very depressing, but also eerily still evokes post-2020 United States politics much like the election eerily resembled ours in 2020. It's a sad reflection of the state of once-great democracies in the world.

It could have been worse though, I suppose. At least the military didn't end up joining or empowering the Bolsonaristas after all.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Maybe the international left should stop demonizing every cop and making their job more politically aligned and let them do their jobs without politicization.

This is what happens when you create fissures.

You are the most marble-brained person on the planet if you really believe this. How deeply unserious and intellectually dishonest of you to blame “the left” (whatever you mean by that) after another demonstration of right wing violence and disrespect for democracy. You are not an independent thinker, you are a contrarian. This point you made here has nothing to do with the topic at hand, yet you made it just to do a both sides moment. Congrats, man. You’ve sunk to making excuses for political terrorism. Very moderate of you.

Dude...your living in F-ing bubble.  The same F-ing talking points the left uses in the US is regurgitated in Brazil, Italy, Israel, etc. Every opposition candidate and their supporters is a dangerous right-wing extremist and Putin-Apologist that leads a group of racist, xenophobic zealots.

It would strengthen your point if you could list some countries other than ones of which this is true.

[windjammer]

Are you sure Bolsonaro has planned it honestly ?

[MABA 2020]

So the knock off Trump tries his own knock off coup and it's failed already, fitting.

Said this last month but I guess I should've saved it, although I don't know if the man himself had any part in this?

[buritobr]

These demonstrators are neither patriot nor creative

[2952-0-0]

These demonstrators are neither patriot nor creative

I assume that Brazilian prisons won't serve special organic food upon request.

Yes, yes, this picture was from 2021, and it's unknown if the Brazilian QAnon shaman was in Brasilia today, but still...

[Tekken_Guy]

I guess this really was always inevitable. We probably got lulled into a false sense of security when it looked like it wasn't going to happen. Really it just took longer than expected.

Very depressing, but also eerily still evokes post-2020 United States politics much like the election eerily resembled ours in 2020. It's a sad reflection of the state of once-great democracies in the world.

It could have been worse though, I suppose. At least the military didn't end up joining or empowering the Bolsonaristas after all.

It’s just that with Bolsonaro going radio silent after the election there seemed to be no fuel to lead to yhis.

[SWE]

Of course the public thinks a career criminal rigged the election,

Good point. It makes sense that if someone is stupid enough to think the charges against Lula had any merit whatsoever, they would also be stupid enough to believe that the election was stolen.

[Pres Mike]

Maybe the international left should stop demonizing every cop and making their job more politically aligned and let them do their jobs without politicization.

This is what happens when you create fissures.

You are the most marble-brained person on the planet if you really believe this. How deeply unserious and intellectually dishonest of you to blame “the left” (whatever you mean by that) after another demonstration of right wing violence and disrespect for democracy. You are not an independent thinker, you are a contrarian. This point you made here has nothing to do with the topic at hand, yet you made it just to do a both sides moment. Congrats, man. You’ve sunk to making excuses for political terrorism. Very moderate of you.

 Of course the public thinks a career criminal rigged the

I mean, 50.90% of the electorate thinks otherwise. 60,345,999 think otherwise.

You are just spitting out far right talking points. Netanyahu is trying to change the judicial system in Israel where the Knesset can overide a cour charge. Basically the PM will be immune from going to jail if he has a majority of parliment. That is a huge step to dictatorship. You accuse Biden of trying to tip the scales. He has done no such thing, but he should. Bibi is trying to kill the two state solution and become a life term dictator. His alliance with the far right openly does that.

"long-standing preferential treatment of a former President" wtf are you talking about? Presidents have never been immune to prosecution. Its true, the rich and powerful usually get away with their crimes. But we should never ignore them. I will remind you that Trump has yet to be charged with anything at the federal or state level. While he is very much guilty, the US isn't a Banna Republic. Clear evidence is needed (especially for the rich it seems).

[Joe Republic]

This may be a legitimate insurrection in the making.  You brought it on yourselves.

There is no such thing as a "legitimate insurrection", you strange little fascist.

[Storr]

https://twitter.com/YWNReporter/status/1612206539464376320?s=20&t=DRt2uW8HDK...

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

https://twitter.com/YWNReporter/status/1612206539464376320?s=20&t=DRt2uW8HDK...

Good.

[TheReckoning]

This may be a legitimate insurrection in the making.  You brought it on yourselves.

There is no such thing as a "legitimate insurrection", you strange little fascist.

George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were fascists?

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

This may be a legitimate insurrection in the making.  You brought it on yourselves.

There is no such thing as a "legitimate insurrection", you strange little fascist.

George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were fascists?

No, but they certainly weren't legitimate, at first.

[Vice President Christian Man]

This may be a legitimate insurrection in the making.  You brought it on yourselves.

There is no such thing as a "legitimate insurrection", you strange little fascist.

George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were fascists?

They weren't dictators. The American Revolution was the opposite of what Brazil was trying to do.

[Interlocutor is just not there yet]

https://twitter.com/YWNReporter/status/1612206539464376320?s=20&t=DRt2uW8HDK...

Good.

Great.

[TheTide]

Not even ten days into the year either.

[Red Velvet]

This is just a circus. But it will repeat itself and become something more dangerous if the fascist crazy people and Nazis who invaded the congress don’t get punished with jailtime.

Of course the main criminal and leader of this congress invasion, Jair Bolsonaro, will get away with it because US is giving him asylum to hide in Florida like they always do to the Latin American far-right, so that he doesn’t respond to his crimes in here.

[Red Velvet]

Some important differences between J6 and this:
-Lula has been inaugurated
-The Congress is not in session
-There is no way to overturn the election results at this point

This is more of a temper tantrum than a coup attempt.

Pretty much. They are in a conspiracy bubble since the election defeat which kept telling them they just needed to camp in front of Armed Forces QG that in 72h there would be a coup. Problem is that this got recycled over and over during November and December so everyday it was still “more 72 hours” that never arrived lol

Lula Inauguration was a hard wake-up from the lies and crazy brainwash stuff these people allow themselves to consume and this is happening on the exact following Sunday to his inauguration. We’re basically seeing these people move from 1st to 2nd stage of grief. From Denial to Anger.

Which is why there needs to be STRONG punishment to these people and their leaders, so that they move to 3rd stage (Bargaining) and then later 4th (Depression) and 5th (Acceptance). Otherwise, if they feel their Anger works and is validated by the system omission in punishing them, they will repeat it worse in the future.

[CumbrianLefty]

I have to ask, does Hollywood actually believe the fantastical nonsense they spout?

[Mike88]

Some important differences between J6 and this:
-Lula has been inaugurated
-The Congress is not in session
-There is no way to overturn the election results at this point

This is more of a temper tantrum than a coup attempt.

Pretty much. They are in a conspiracy bubble since the election defeat which kept telling them they just needed to camp in front of Armed Forces QG that in 72h there would be a coup. Problem is that this got recycled over and over during November and December so everyday it was still “more 72 hours” that never arrived lol

Lula Inauguration was a hard wake-up from the lies and crazy brainwash stuff these people allow themselves to consume and this is happening on the exact following Sunday to his inauguration. We’re basically seeing these people move from 1st to 2nd stage of grief. From Denial to Anger.

Which is why there needs to be STRONG punishment to these people and their leaders, so that they move to 3rd stage (Bargaining) and then later 4th (Depression) and 5th (Acceptance). Otherwise, if they feel their Anger works and is validated by the system omission in punishing them, they will repeat it worse in the future.

Agree with both of you, and I add that what was also shocking was the total complacency of the police and the lack of strong security of the buildings. After this "WTF invasion" the area of the 3 Powers Squares needs to be 100% guarded 24/7, and maybe block public entrance to these areas. At least until these crazies are out of sight.

[Red Velvet]

Some important differences between J6 and this:
-Lula has been inaugurated
-The Congress is not in session
-There is no way to overturn the election results at this point

This is more of a temper tantrum than a coup attempt.

Pretty much. They are in a conspiracy bubble since the election defeat which kept telling them they just needed to camp in front of Armed Forces QG that in 72h there would be a coup. Problem is that this got recycled over and over during November and December so everyday it was still “more 72 hours” that never arrived lol

Lula Inauguration was a hard wake-up from the lies and crazy brainwash stuff these people allow themselves to consume and this is happening on the exact following Sunday to his inauguration. We’re basically seeing these people move from 1st to 2nd stage of grief. From Denial to Anger.

Which is why there needs to be STRONG punishment to these people and their leaders, so that they move to 3rd stage (Bargaining) and then later 4th (Depression) and 5th (Acceptance). Otherwise, if they feel their Anger works and is validated by the system omission in punishing them, they will repeat it worse in the future.

Agree with both of you, and I add that what was also shocking was the total complacency of the police and the lack of strong security of the buildings. After this "WTF invasion" the area of the 3 Powers Squares needs to be 100% guarded 24/7, and maybe block public entrance to these areas. At least until these crazies are out of sight.

Some part of the police (important not to generalize) and also DF Governor (who lacked leadership and command) is complicit with this stuff through their omission. Some of them likely politically sympathize with the Bolsonarists.

Of course that shouldn’t be generalized because I approve the job the police is doing in general. 1200 Bolsonarists jailed and counting! I imagine with the pictures and videos of these people who broke into the 3 powers buildings, there are even more to be identified by the internet.

https://twitter.com/eixopolitico/status/1612425547182637058
The video of the Bolsonarists celebrating the arrival of the Armed Forces in the place thinking there would be a consummation of a coup when they were there to arrest them is also funny as hell. You almost feel sorry for how brainwashed and disconnected to reality these people are. It’s like having your entire brain shaped by fake narratives.

They really see themselves as revolutionaries and warriors instead of f***able bitches and canon fodder to the guy who flew his ass to hide in Florida. It’s serious ignorance, lack of self-respect and also something that gives them a fake sense of purpose that makes them feel seen, I guess.