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« on: December 04, 2022, 05:07:25 PM »

When did Florida start being seen as a red state rather than swing?
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« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2022, 05:36:51 PM »

To begin with, Florida was viewed as more of a "pink" state in the 2010s.  By that, I mean that it was winnable for Democrats when they were already winning, but it typically leaned a bit to the right.  I'd say that the transition began in 2018, when Republicans narrowly won both major statewide races in a Democratic wave.  But, it didn't start to be fully talked about as a red state until we got the results from the 2020 election.
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« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2022, 06:09:03 PM »

What's interesting is Ohio is still not really viewed as a red state among casual politics followers but Florida definitely is. One person I know even told me he thinks the Ohio results show its taking the path of Florida of going from a swing state to a Red State.
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« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2022, 06:13:53 PM »

To begin with, Florida was viewed as more of a "pink" state in the 2010s.  By that, I mean that it was winnable for Democrats when they were already winning, but it typically leaned a bit to the right.  I'd say that the transition began in 2018, when Republicans narrowly won both major statewide races in a Democratic wave.  But, it didn't start to be fully talked about as a red state until we got the results from the 2020 election.

This.  Looking back, the best interpretation is that it was always Lean R and 2000 was just a fluke that shifted Dem resources in a suboptimal way.
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« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2022, 07:23:29 PM »
« Edited: December 04, 2022, 07:26:51 PM by King of Kensington »

Now there seems to be almost a "sorting" of retirees, with liberal retirees avoiding Florida.

Another thing about Florida is it doesn't really have sectors that attract the highly-educated.
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« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2022, 07:35:00 PM »

Now there seems to be almost a "sorting" of retirees, with liberal retirees avoiding Florida.

Another thing about Florida is it doesn't really have sectors that attract the highly-educated.

Where do liberal retirees go when they move?  Mountain West?
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« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2022, 07:41:20 PM »

After 2022, it's seen as lean-red now. Before then, still 50/50. Every race pre-2022 was very, very close and the demographics here are polarizing.  Covid moved a lot of angry and older northeasterners here with a more conservative ideology.
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« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2022, 01:40:49 PM »

According to conventional wisdom,2018. But prior to that I would say lean R, as republicans should win in the state most of the time unless if they do poor nationally
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« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2022, 06:38:15 PM »

When did Florida start being seen as a red state rather than swing?

Election 2016.

I touched on the issue here:


https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=441838.msg8079566#msg8079566
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