When will the 538 Odds show the GOP has a 51% chance or better of taking control of the Senate?
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Question: When will the 538 odds show the GOP has a 51% chance or better of taking control of the Senate?
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« on: October 27, 2022, 02:40:41 PM »

It is at 47% at the moment, up 2 points from this morning. Drip, drip, drip.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2022-election-forecast/senate/?cid=rrpromo

My guess is in October, after the next PA poll comes out.

On the other hand, if it can actually be proved that Walker paid for an abortion  ... crazy world out there.
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« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2022, 03:05:50 PM »

No,  it's called voting we should use our own judgement by now since we all are voting or will vote not models
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« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2022, 06:44:27 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2022, 04:43:38 PM »

If the Pubs hit 51 on or before Halloween I will shut down the poll. So if you want to change your vote  ...

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« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2022, 04:47:52 PM »

Fetterman is losing and so is WARNOCK that's the Majority right there, Ds underestimated Dr Oz just like McCormick did they thought Dr Oz was Rick Santorun that would lose by 20

If Fetterman wins it's gonna be close not a landslide
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« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2022, 04:50:56 PM »

Probably very early Nov 2022, but whether it lasts is another question.
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« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2022, 06:30:13 PM »

If they ever do it’ll be a dumb decision
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« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2022, 06:02:40 PM »

From its apogee or not, the Pub tide recedes back a point.

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« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2022, 06:32:44 PM »

November probably. Worth caveating this is their deluxe model which includes polls, fundraising, past voting patterns, and experts ratings (thumbs on the scale)
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« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2022, 09:17:59 PM »

They will never show Republicans leading because Silver is a partisan hack.
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« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2022, 09:46:09 PM »


Thank god it looks like the stupid panic has been tampered down
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« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2022, 05:36:18 AM »

They will never show Republicans leading because Silver is a partisan hack.

Everyone you don't like is a partisan hack.
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« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2022, 04:58:12 PM »

50-50 now. I have six hours left for it to get to 51, or my guess was wrong.

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« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2022, 05:03:58 PM »

50-50 now. I have six hours left for it to get to 51, or my guess was wrong.


Will any more polls be released today? Seems a bit late in the day for that.
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« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2022, 05:05:43 PM »

Those GOP polls flooding the zone really did a number on PA, NV, and GA.
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« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2022, 05:10:42 PM »
« Edited: October 31, 2022, 05:26:07 PM by Torie »

No idea as to more polls, or the behind the curtain metrics in the deluxe edition, and supposedly 538 discounts partisan polls, and I don't know what partisan polls came down in the GA-PA-NV-AZ quadrangle.

The only poll I know of is the Siena-NYT non partisan poll that had favorable numbers for Dems, albeit it 538 handicaps that pollster with a Dem bias, maybe about a point or so, while otherwise giving it a stellar rating, which means that if you move it a point to the Pubs, it is spot on, because the bias is so seamlessly systematic.

In other words, that NYT-Siena poll dump would still move the needle a tad to the Dems, as opposed to the reverse. So something else is behind the curtain.

That said, having visited RCP, this AJC poll came across the transom that may explain it.




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« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2022, 05:16:43 PM »

Those GOP polls flooding the zone really did a number on PA, NV, and GA.

I don't really understand how the model went up for the GOP today. Today was a good day of polling for Democrats, I expected the GOP% to tick down to 46%.
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« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2022, 05:20:57 PM »

Those GOP polls flooding the zone really did a number on PA, NV, and GA.

I don't really understand how the model went up for the GOP today. Today was a good day of polling for Democrats, I expected the GOP% to tick down to 46%.

Doesn't the model have some random variance in it; i.e. they actually run simulations 100 times and report the results?
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« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2022, 05:23:56 PM »

Those GOP polls flooding the zone really did a number on PA, NV, and GA.

I don't really understand how the model went up for the GOP today. Today was a good day of polling for Democrats, I expected the GOP% to tick down to 46%.

Doesn't the model have some random variance in it; i.e. they actually run simulations 100 times and report the results?

More like 1000 times plus, so that is not the source of any variations. The inputs rule. So is it GIGO or is it not, that is the question.
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« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2022, 05:24:16 PM »

Those GOP polls flooding the zone really did a number on PA, NV, and GA.

I don't really understand how the model went up for the GOP today. Today was a good day of polling for Democrats, I expected the GOP% to tick down to 46%.

Doesn't the model have some random variance in it; i.e. they actually run simulations 100 times and report the results?

It's 10k times and then rounded so there's not enough variance to cause a few point shift given the number of simulations.
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« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2022, 05:24:56 PM »

Those GOP polls flooding the zone really did a number on PA, NV, and GA.

I don't really understand how the model went up for the GOP today. Today was a good day of polling for Democrats, I expected the GOP% to tick down to 46%.

Doesn't the model have some random variance in it; i.e. they actually run simulations 100 times and report the results?

It's 10k times and then rounded so there's not enough variance to cause a few point shift given the number of simulations.


ahhh. ok.
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« Reply #21 on: October 31, 2022, 05:39:03 PM »

Ayy back up to 51-49 Dems.  Fivey Fox probably chewed on the wiring, that little sh**t. 
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« Reply #22 on: October 31, 2022, 05:47:19 PM »

Ayy back up to 51-49 Dems.  Fivey Fox probably chewed on the wiring, that little sh**t. 

The most absurd thing is the hand wringing over all of this. And obsessed with predictions, and anger with those with contrary crystal balls. Don't hook up with a guy who is too political, my dear, that is my best advice. They have long since lost the ability to see the grays in life, and more importantly, potentially lost the  ability to laugh at one's self, and self deprecate. Who would want to live with that toxic brew, or expose your issue (legal term for rug rats) to that?
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« Reply #23 on: October 31, 2022, 05:50:07 PM »

Ayy back up to 51-49 Dems.  Fivey Fox probably chewed on the wiring, that little sh**t. 

Don't be mean to Fivey Sad
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« Reply #24 on: October 31, 2022, 05:50:30 PM »

Ayy back up to 51-49 Dems.  Fivey Fox probably chewed on the wiring, that little sh**t. 

You need a hound dog to catch Fivey.
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