Best Communist Chinese leader?

[Dr. MB]

Pick your pick, Talk Elections.

[dead0man]

whichever one was least communist

[Aurelius]

Deng (sane, has a pulse)

[LAKISYLVANIA]

I only know partially about Deng, Mao and probably most of Xi at this point. Xi has some merits, even if he's not really a communist anymore and even if China definitely became more authoritarian under his tenure. There are a lot of aspects I certainly hate or despise like their one china policy or their zero covid policy and lack of an internationalist diplomatic attitude to outsiders, but we have a western view on these things

Only thing i know for sure is that Mao was a disaster.

[PSOL]

Mao was the only communist, and thus the best, leader of the PRC. His stewardship and participation, either in active or passive forms, helped lead to the powerhouse of modern China that his successors try to dismantle as a proper bourgeoise State.

[Aurelius]

Mao was the only communist, and thus the best, leader of the PRC. His stewardship and participation, either in active or passive forms, helped lead to the powerhouse of modern China that his successors try to dismantle as a proper bourgeoise State.

[PSOL]

Mao was the only communist, and thus the best, leader of the PRC. His stewardship and participation, either in active or passive forms, helped lead to the powerhouse of modern China that his successors try to dismantle as a proper bourgeoise State.

Truly I am forever made a triggered cuck by your sh••post

[America Needs R'hllor]

Mao was the only communist, and thus the best, leader of the PRC. His stewardship and participation, either in active or passive forms, helped lead to the powerhouse of modern China that his successors try to dismantle as a proper bourgeoise State.

Truly I am forever made a triggered cuck by your sh••post

I am not sure I would classify a reference to a policy that very possibly killed millions as a "sh••post"

[PSOL]

Mao was the only communist, and thus the best, leader of the PRC. His stewardship and participation, either in active or passive forms, helped lead to the powerhouse of modern China that his successors try to dismantle as a proper bourgeoise State.

Truly I am forever made a triggered cuck by your sh••post

I am not sure I would classify a reference to a policy that very possibly killed millions as a "sh••post"

A short term policy error that was quickly ended once the data was in that it was harmful did not kill millions of people, the famine and occurring crop failure from Soviet resistance in trading pesticides did.

Subsequently the GMO research started under Mao caused a boom in agricultural output years later, assisted by imports of better pesticides by the U.S.

[world.execute(me)]

Mao was the only communist, and thus the best, leader of the PRC. His stewardship and participation, either in active or passive forms, helped lead to the powerhouse of modern China that his successors try to dismantle as a proper bourgeoise State.

Truly I am forever made a triggered cuck by your sh••post

I am not sure I would classify a reference to a policy that very possibly killed millions as a "sh••post"

A short term policy error that was quickly ended once the data was in that it was harmful did not kill millions of people, the famine and occurring crop failure from Soviet resistance in trading pesticides did.

Subsequently the GMO research started under Mao caused a boom in agricultural output years later, assisted by imports of better pesticides by the U.S.

How does Mao's boot taste?

[Aurelius]

Mao was the only communist, and thus the best, leader of the PRC. His stewardship and participation, either in active or passive forms, helped lead to the powerhouse of modern China that his successors try to dismantle as a proper bourgeoise State.

Truly I am forever made a triggered cuck by your sh••post

I am not sure I would classify a reference to a policy that very possibly killed millions as a "sh••post"

A short term policy error that was quickly ended once the data was in that it was harmful did not kill millions of people, the famine and occurring crop failure from Soviet resistance in trading pesticides did.

Subsequently the GMO research started under Mao caused a boom in agricultural output years later, assisted by imports of better pesticides by the U.S.

Yeah, the famine had nothing at all to do with killing all the sparrows, locust population exploding without their natural predator around, oh and also farmers being ordered to melt down all their farm tools into pig iron because factories are a counterrevolutionary plot.

[TDAS04]

A tyrant is tyrant.  All these leaders were awful, but Mao was clearly the worst.  The worst on human rights tends to be the worst, period.  That’s more important than how socialist or capitalist a dictator is.

I do get factoring in a leader’s impact on society’s stability, prosperity, and quality of life, though that’s less important than freedom and basic human rights (Mao was horrendous on both fronts).  I have some grudging respect for Deng, but I still consider him a clear HP. 

[Beet]

Zhao Ziyang was the best. He is the only one who would have allowed China to move towards multiparty democracy and join the end of history. Unfortunately he was ousted for opposing the Tian'anmen Square Massacre.

Xi Jinping could end up inadvertently triggering a nuclear WW3 so he's the most worrisome right now.

[Kahane's Grave Is A Gender-Neutral Bathroom]

Mao was the only communist, and thus the best, leader of the PRC. His stewardship and participation, either in active or passive forms, helped lead to the powerhouse of modern China that his successors try to dismantle as a proper bourgeoise State.

Truly I am forever made a triggered cuck by your sh••post

I am not sure I would classify a reference to a policy that very possibly killed millions as a "sh••post"

A short term policy error that was quickly ended once the data was in that it was harmful did not kill millions of people, the famine and occurring crop failure from Soviet resistance in trading pesticides did.

Subsequently the GMO research started under Mao caused a boom in agricultural output years later, assisted by imports of better pesticides by the U.S.

A number of short term policy errors that lasted more than twice as long as I've been alive, yes.

[Alben Barkley]

PSOL unironically defending Mao.

Why am I not surprised?

Never change, tankies. Never change.

Actually change immediately because you are terrible.

[Aurelius]

You'd think the commies would prefer to blame these things on Mao and throw him under the bus. Then it's the fault of one man, not the fault of communism failing catastrophically like it has every single time it's been tried.

[LAKISYLVANIA]

PSOL unironically defending Mao.

Why am I not surprised?

Never change, tankies. Never change.

Actually change immediately because you are terrible.

He has horrible takes

but your takes have been horrible too, like thinking people predicting liz truss downfall is a left wing conspiracy theory or not enjoying pink floyd because roger waters has somehow made an edgy tweet endorsing venezuela.

You've said highly controversial things as well

and you're not even aware of it.

[Mr. Smith]

Jintao.

[Kahane's Grave Is A Gender-Neutral Bathroom]

The issue with Communism is that it hurts other left wing ideas/ideologies. The right will never have to take responsibility for their desire to overthrow the government and take away everyone's freedoms as long as there are a contingent of pink-haired people on the left who want to overthrow the government and take away everyone's freedoms.

[PSOL]

Mao was the only communist, and thus the best, leader of the PRC. His stewardship and participation, either in active or passive forms, helped lead to the powerhouse of modern China that his successors try to dismantle as a proper bourgeoise State.

Truly I am forever made a triggered cuck by your sh••post

I am not sure I would classify a reference to a policy that very possibly killed millions as a "sh••post"

A short term policy error that was quickly ended once the data was in that it was harmful did not kill millions of people, the famine and occurring crop failure from Soviet resistance in trading pesticides did.

Subsequently the GMO research started under Mao caused a boom in agricultural output years later, assisted by imports of better pesticides by the U.S.

How does Mao's boot taste?

Unlike the boots of my bosses, it doesn’t affect my life. How does clout chasing online to cope with reality give you.

You'd think the commies would prefer to blame these things on Mao and throw him under the bus. Then it's the fault of one man, not the fault of communism failing catastrophically like it has every single time it's been tried.

lmao, I’d rather take Mao then live under Jai-Qing China

The issue with Communism is that it hurts other left wing ideas/ideologies. The right will never have to take responsibility for their desire to overthrow the government and take away everyone's freedoms as long as there are a contingent of pink-haired people on the left who want to overthrow the government and take away everyone's freedoms.

The right has never, ever in its existence taken responsibility or shown humility for its bull••••. Comparatively the peasants chains became no more as they became workers, and undeniably the reforms of the PRC led to better experiences living in its totality for all people then the hellscape that was Qing China. What has the right done to ever improve people’s lives?

[Aurelius]

Mao was the only communist, and thus the best, leader of the PRC. His stewardship and participation, either in active or passive forms, helped lead to the powerhouse of modern China that his successors try to dismantle as a proper bourgeoise State.

Truly I am forever made a triggered cuck by your sh••post

I am not sure I would classify a reference to a policy that very possibly killed millions as a "sh••post"

A short term policy error that was quickly ended once the data was in that it was harmful did not kill millions of people, the famine and occurring crop failure from Soviet resistance in trading pesticides did.

Subsequently the GMO research started under Mao caused a boom in agricultural output years later, assisted by imports of better pesticides by the U.S.

How does Mao's boot taste?

Unlike the boots of my bosses, it doesn’t affect my life. How does clout chasing online to cope with reality give you.

You'd think the commies would prefer to blame these things on Mao and throw him under the bus. Then it's the fault of one man, not the fault of communism failing catastrophically like it has every single time it's been tried.

lmao, I’d rather take Mao then live under Jai-Qing China

The issue with Communism is that it hurts other left wing ideas/ideologies. The right will never have to take responsibility for their desire to overthrow the government and take away everyone's freedoms as long as there are a contingent of pink-haired people on the left who want to overthrow the government and take away everyone's freedoms.

The right has never, ever in its existence taken responsibility or shown humility for its bull••••. Comparatively the peasants chains became no more as they became workers, and undeniably the reforms of the PRC led to better experiences living in its totality for all people then the hellscape that was Qing China. What has the right done to ever improve people’s lives?

Yeah, the chains are no more 'cause they melted them down into pig iron. Now they're starving because of a manmade famine. Such freedom!

[Kahane's Grave Is A Gender-Neutral Bathroom]

Mao was the only communist, and thus the best, leader of the PRC. His stewardship and participation, either in active or passive forms, helped lead to the powerhouse of modern China that his successors try to dismantle as a proper bourgeoise State.

Truly I am forever made a triggered cuck by your sh••post

I am not sure I would classify a reference to a policy that very possibly killed millions as a "sh••post"

A short term policy error that was quickly ended once the data was in that it was harmful did not kill millions of people, the famine and occurring crop failure from Soviet resistance in trading pesticides did.

Subsequently the GMO research started under Mao caused a boom in agricultural output years later, assisted by imports of better pesticides by the U.S.

How does Mao's boot taste?

Unlike the boots of my bosses, it doesn’t affect my life. How does clout chasing online to cope with reality give you.

You'd think the commies would prefer to blame these things on Mao and throw him under the bus. Then it's the fault of one man, not the fault of communism failing catastrophically like it has every single time it's been tried.

lmao, I’d rather take Mao then live under Jai-Qing China

The issue with Communism is that it hurts other left wing ideas/ideologies. The right will never have to take responsibility for their desire to overthrow the government and take away everyone's freedoms as long as there are a contingent of pink-haired people on the left who want to overthrow the government and take away everyone's freedoms.

The right has never, ever in its existence taken responsibility or shown humility for its bull••••. Comparatively the peasants chains became no more as they became workers, and undeniably the reforms of the PRC led to better experiences living in its totality for all people then the hellscape that was Qing China. What has the right done to ever improve people’s lives?

Yeah, the chains are no more 'cause they melted them down into pig iron. Now they're starving because of a manmade famine. Such freedom!

The capitalist pigs can't oppress you if you're dead. I'm not sure why this is so hard to understand.

[PSOL]

Mao was the only communist, and thus the best, leader of the PRC. His stewardship and participation, either in active or passive forms, helped lead to the powerhouse of modern China that his successors try to dismantle as a proper bourgeoise State.

Truly I am forever made a triggered cuck by your sh••post

I am not sure I would classify a reference to a policy that very possibly killed millions as a "sh••post"

A short term policy error that was quickly ended once the data was in that it was harmful did not kill millions of people, the famine and occurring crop failure from Soviet resistance in trading pesticides did.

Subsequently the GMO research started under Mao caused a boom in agricultural output years later, assisted by imports of better pesticides by the U.S.

How does Mao's boot taste?

Unlike the boots of my bosses, it doesn’t affect my life. How does clout chasing online to cope with reality give you.

You'd think the commies would prefer to blame these things on Mao and throw him under the bus. Then it's the fault of one man, not the fault of communism failing catastrophically like it has every single time it's been tried.

lmao, I’d rather take Mao then live under Jai-Qing China

The issue with Communism is that it hurts other left wing ideas/ideologies. The right will never have to take responsibility for their desire to overthrow the government and take away everyone's freedoms as long as there are a contingent of pink-haired people on the left who want to overthrow the government and take away everyone's freedoms.

The right has never, ever in its existence taken responsibility or shown humility for its bull••••. Comparatively the peasants chains became no more as they became workers, and undeniably the reforms of the PRC led to better experiences living in its totality for all people then the hellscape that was Qing China. What has the right done to ever improve people’s lives?

Yeah, the chains are no more 'cause they melted them down into pig iron. Now they're starving because of a manmade famine. Such freedom!

And now China is an industrial powerhouse because of the sacrifices during the dual blockade.

[Kahane's Grave Is A Gender-Neutral Bathroom]

Mao was the only communist, and thus the best, leader of the PRC. His stewardship and participation, either in active or passive forms, helped lead to the powerhouse of modern China that his successors try to dismantle as a proper bourgeoise State.

Truly I am forever made a triggered cuck by your sh••post

I am not sure I would classify a reference to a policy that very possibly killed millions as a "sh••post"

A short term policy error that was quickly ended once the data was in that it was harmful did not kill millions of people, the famine and occurring crop failure from Soviet resistance in trading pesticides did.

Subsequently the GMO research started under Mao caused a boom in agricultural output years later, assisted by imports of better pesticides by the U.S.

How does Mao's boot taste?

Unlike the boots of my bosses, it doesn’t affect my life. How does clout chasing online to cope with reality give you.

You'd think the commies would prefer to blame these things on Mao and throw him under the bus. Then it's the fault of one man, not the fault of communism failing catastrophically like it has every single time it's been tried.

lmao, I’d rather take Mao then live under Jai-Qing China

The issue with Communism is that it hurts other left wing ideas/ideologies. The right will never have to take responsibility for their desire to overthrow the government and take away everyone's freedoms as long as there are a contingent of pink-haired people on the left who want to overthrow the government and take away everyone's freedoms.

The right has never, ever in its existence taken responsibility or shown humility for its bull••••. Comparatively the peasants chains became no more as they became workers, and undeniably the reforms of the PRC led to better experiences living in its totality for all people then the hellscape that was Qing China. What has the right done to ever improve people’s lives?

Yeah, the chains are no more 'cause they melted them down into pig iron. Now they're starving because of a manmade famine. Such freedom!

And now China is an industrial powerhouse because of the sacrifices during the dual blockade.

That's true. It's quite consistent that a country can't become an industrial powerhouse without killing 100 million of its own citizens due to incompetence.