When did "Trump fatigue" start to become a factor for voters?
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Question: When did "Trump fatigue" or voters being tired of constant chaos become enough of an issue to effect the 2020 election?
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Trump's first 3 months in office
 
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Around Charlottesville
 
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Around the 2018 midterms
 
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2019/First impeachment
 
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March/April 2020 Covid Pandemic
 
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Summer 2020
 
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Trump fatigue was never a factor
 
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« on: November 10, 2022, 10:27:51 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2022, 07:03:47 AM »

Probably sometime in 2017
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« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2022, 01:32:34 PM »

Very early in his presidency, since the campaign had already been exhausting and he was sucking up A LOT of oxygen in both politics and in culture more broadly. This was evidenced by low approval ratings during 2017, which actually got better in 2018 (probably due to him passing the tax bill, and also to Republicans who initially didn't particularly care for him getting used to him and realizing that he was at least useful for passing their agenda). However, it worsened again during COVID and especially when he refused to go away after losing.
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« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2022, 02:45:31 PM »

After 3 months in office....

Trump has a large personality and a lot of people got tired of him then......
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« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2022, 08:31:03 PM »

It was never a factor, everyone who hated Trump in 2016 still hates Trump and always will.

Generic Democrat had 51% of the vote against Trump almost immediately and got stuck at 51% for 4 years straight, which is what Biden got in the end.

What mattered was just enough voters being tired of Obama and Hillary in 2016 to split that solid 51% just right for Republicans to win the Electoral College.

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« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2022, 02:45:23 AM »

2016, lol.
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« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2022, 10:40:33 AM »

Around Charlottesville. I think there was some goodwill into the spring of 2017 and after Charlottesville and the Obamacare debacle, it changed. In late 2017, Trump was extremely unpopular.
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« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2023, 10:24:47 AM »

Trump fatigue? dude got ten million more votes & the GOP set turnout records under his rule.
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« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2023, 12:06:18 PM »
« Edited: February 07, 2023, 07:23:49 AM by pbrower2a »

The difference between 2016 and 2020 was demographics. Few people changed their minds, but new voters thought differently in 2020  from the old voters of 2016. About 1.6% of the electorate dies every year, almost entirely among people over 50. Silent, Boom, and early-wave X voters vote about 5% more R than D; voters under 40 vote about 20% more D than R. Over four years that is enough to swing the vote from a Trump win of the Electoral College to a Trump loss. That would have been enough for Trump to lose Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Florida in 2020 if no other demographics applied. People loved Trump or hated him in 2016, and so it was in 2020 as well.

OK, Florida attracts elderly conservatives, and the Trump campaign had an effective Commie-baiting campaign to appeal to Cuban-Americans. So Trump lost Arizona, Georgia, and NE-02 instead, and that is a demographic wash and roughly the same effect in the Electoral College.

Going on an assumption of more of the same, nothing changes except for Biden winning North Carolina in 2024..
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« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2023, 09:54:07 PM »

Probably in 2018 sometime but it didn't become a major issue until 2020.
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« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2023, 01:30:02 AM »

11/9/2016
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« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2023, 02:46:52 PM »

I'd say the pandemic was likely the tipping point, although he was steadily losing support since he entered office. If anything the Summer of 2020 prevented him from doing any worse in the Midwest or Southeast.
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« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2023, 03:31:30 PM »

I think I left him in July 2017 (Charlottesville-ish) and had been losing interest since May.
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« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2023, 05:34:30 PM »

Never:  The people tired of him were already tired of him, and the rest were his fans.

The only difference Trump was proven to win this time, unlike 2016, hence the third parties.
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« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2023, 10:41:32 AM »

Around Charlottesville. I think there was some goodwill into the spring of 2017 and after Charlottesville and the Obamacare debacle, it changed. In late 2017, Trump was extremely unpopular.

It's strange how it didn't feel that remarkable at the time, but late July to late August 2017 was a really bad time for the Trump presidency. First ACA, then Charlottesville, then all the North Korea nonsense.
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« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2023, 05:44:47 PM »

I remember a lot of my fam drew the line at the comments he made after Charlottesville. They were pretty turned off to him after that.
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« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2023, 05:46:09 PM »

Around Charlottesville. I think there was some goodwill into the spring of 2017 and after Charlottesville and the Obamacare debacle, it changed. In late 2017, Trump was extremely unpopular.

It's strange how it didn't feel that remarkable at the time, but late July to late August 2017 was a really bad time for the Trump presidency. First ACA, then Charlottesville, then all the North Korea nonsense.
I believe this is when his approvals were the lowest.
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