2023 Chicago Mayoral/Aldermanic Elections

[Gass3268]

The coming months are gonna be hard on Vallas as all his conservative rhetoric is going on trial in one of the most liberal cities in the country where Biden won every ward. This doesn’t mean that he’s out or that they’re aren’t conservative democrats in Chicago, they’re definitely are just look at Wilson’s numbers, but they’re not the majority.

FYI, the election is on April 4th. Same day as the Wisconsin Supreme Court.

[wbrocks67]

https://twitter.com/ccadelago/status/1634182994121437188

[Mr. Illini]

I still think Vallas wins.

Earlier I said that I would've voted for Johnson in the first round but after reviewing things a bit more I'm back to saying I would've voted for Garcia. Some of Johnson's proposals especially his transit tax one are complete non-starters for me.

But I'd still vote for him in the runoff because Vallas just sucks that much.

Why can't Chicago get even a good candidate for mayor? Even Garcia isn't great, he's just not terrible. I guess Preckwinkle was good but she also got blown out.

Preckwinkle’s blowout loss should tell you that she is, in fact, not good. At least the vast majority of Chicagoans think so.

[John Forbes Kerrygold 🧈]

I still think Vallas wins.

Earlier I said that I would've voted for Johnson in the first round but after reviewing things a bit more I'm back to saying I would've voted for Garcia. Some of Johnson's proposals especially his transit tax one are complete non-starters for me.

But I'd still vote for him in the runoff because Vallas just sucks that much.

Why can't Chicago get even a good candidate for mayor? Even Garcia isn't great, he's just not terrible. I guess Preckwinkle was good but she also got blown out.

Preckwinkle’s blowout loss should tell you that she is, in fact, not good. At least the vast majority of Chicagoans think so.

Yeah, I regret that we ended up with Lightfoot, but that doesn't mean I wish we got Preckwinkle.

[Bismarck]

Can anyone give me an example of a time when hostility toward the police department and reduced toughness toward violent crime helped a city? We can have some police and justice reform without the outright softness towards criminals and hostility to police that Johnson and many folks on here seem to want. How does Johnson represent anything other than a doubling down on the failed crime policies of Lightfoot?

[This user has not been convicted of 34 felonies]

Can anyone give me an example of a time when hostility toward the police department and reduced toughness toward violent crime helped a city? We can have some police and justice reform without the outright softness towards criminals and hostility to police that Johnson and many folks on here seem to want. How does Johnson represent anything other than a doubling down on the failed crime policies of Lightfoot?

I'm going to do a whataboutism here but it should be pointed out that 3 of the top 5 states with the highest crime rates according to FBI statistics between 2011 and 2020 (which I pulled from this Wikipedia article) are Alaska, Tennessee, and Arkansas. If you expand it to the top 10, you can tack on Arizona, Louisiana, Missouri, South Carolina, and South Dakota. Aside from Arizona, who had a Republican Governor for the entirety of that time period, all of those states are deep red. So I'll answer your question with a question--when's the last time "tough on crime" politicians ever did anything to bring down crime rates?

By the way, 8 of the bottom 10 states are blue states.

[coloradocowboi]

Can anyone give me an example of a time when hostility toward the police department and reduced toughness toward violent crime helped a city? We can have some police and justice reform without the outright softness towards criminals and hostility to police that Johnson and many folks on here seem to want. How does Johnson represent anything other than a doubling down on the failed crime policies of Lightfoot?

I'm going to do a whataboutism here but it should be pointed out that 3 of the top 5 states with the highest crime rates according to FBI statistics between 2011 and 2020 (which I pulled from this Wikipedia article) are Alaska, Tennessee, and Arkansas. If you expand it to the top 10, you can tack on Arizona, Louisiana, Missouri, South Carolina, and South Dakota. Aside from Arizona, who had a Republican Governor for the entirety of that time period, all of those states are deep red. So I'll answer your question with a question--when's the last time "tough on crime" politicians ever did anything to bring down crime rates?

By the way, 8 of the bottom 10 states are blue states.

Not to mention he's misrepresenting Lightfoot's police record pretty badly.

[Bismarck]

Can anyone give me an example of a time when hostility toward the police department and reduced toughness toward violent crime helped a city? We can have some police and justice reform without the outright softness towards criminals and hostility to police that Johnson and many folks on here seem to want. How does Johnson represent anything other than a doubling down on the failed crime policies of Lightfoot?

I'm going to do a whataboutism here but it should be pointed out that 3 of the top 5 states with the highest crime rates according to FBI statistics between 2011 and 2020 (which I pulled from this Wikipedia article) are Alaska, Tennessee, and Arkansas. If you expand it to the top 10, you can tack on Arizona, Louisiana, Missouri, South Carolina, and South Dakota. Aside from Arizona, who had a Republican Governor for the entirety of that time period, all of those states are deep red. So I'll answer your question with a question--when's the last time "tough on crime" politicians ever did anything to bring down crime rates?

By the way, 8 of the bottom 10 states are blue states.

I mean there are lots of confounding factors like poverty and the distribution of the population in rural and urban areas, plus policing is mostly something handled at a local level. I wouldn’t argue that tough on crime policies are a magic bullet but I don’t know how anyone can look at the level of violent crime in Chicago and think that that’s something that is acceptable or can somehow Be solved without a heavy law enforcement component. I love Chicago and I hate that it’s held back by crime. It should be among the first rank of cities in the world. Tackle the crime and you can have economic recovery for the long suffering folks on the south and west sides.

[Peeperkorn]

Did anyone watch the debate? Brandon Johnson kept saying “Latinx”

I can't believe that some politicians still think that latinos like this term....

Progressives should start interacting with some real people and avoid the woke academic bulls*** if they want to win elections.

[warandwar]

Did anyone watch the debate? Brandon Johnson kept saying “Latinx”

I can't believe that some politicians still think that latinos like this term....

Progressives should start interacting with some real people and avoid the woke academic bulls*** if they want to win elections.

What's worse for those real people, appearing to be slightly soy, or destroying a school system?
If you're complaining that a politician sounds like a politician, i don't know what to tell you. Most people don't really care about that kinda stuff like they care about their kids education.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Did anyone watch the debate? Brandon Johnson kept saying “Latinx”

I can't believe that some politicians still think that latinos like this term....

Progressives should start interacting with some real people and avoid the woke academic bulls*** if they want to win elections.

What's worse for those real people, appearing to be slightly soy, or destroying a school system?
If you're complaining that a politician sounds like a politician, i don't know what to tell you. Most people don't really care about that kinda stuff like they care about their kids education.

The question is though, what's the point of using it? It doesn't gain you any votes, so why bother so much? Ruben Gallego is way smarter on this than so many others are.

[warandwar]

Did anyone watch the debate? Brandon Johnson kept saying “Latinx”

I can't believe that some politicians still think that latinos like this term....

Progressives should start interacting with some real people and avoid the woke academic bulls*** if they want to win elections.

What's worse for those real people, appearing to be slightly soy, or destroying a school system?
If you're complaining that a politician sounds like a politician, i don't know what to tell you. Most people don't really care about that kinda stuff like they care about their kids education.

The question is though, what's the point of using it? It doesn't gain you any votes, so why bother so much? Ruben Gallego is way smarter on this than so many others are.

Theres all sorts of phrases that sound awkward that don't get the same attention. Y'know how every democrat repotically responds to shootings with calls for "commonsense gun reform"? Politicians always sound fake as fyck, whatever. Why focus on this particular word? Latinx was started by queer folks. The vast majority of latin folks arent queer so of course it sounds weird to most. Whatever, people literally dont care that much and if you are suggesting politicians should try to calibrate their language to "gain votes," i think that's a great strategy to sound fake as fyck.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Did anyone watch the debate? Brandon Johnson kept saying “Latinx”

I can't believe that some politicians still think that latinos like this term....

Progressives should start interacting with some real people and avoid the woke academic bulls*** if they want to win elections.

What's worse for those real people, appearing to be slightly soy, or destroying a school system?
If you're complaining that a politician sounds like a politician, i don't know what to tell you. Most people don't really care about that kinda stuff like they care about their kids education.

The question is though, what's the point of using it? It doesn't gain you any votes, so why bother so much? Ruben Gallego is way smarter on this than so many others are.

Theres all sorts of phrases that sound awkward that don't get the same attention. Y'know how every democrat repotically responds to shootings with calls for "commonsense gun reform"? Politicians always sound fake as fyck, whatever. Why focus on this particular word? Latinx was started by queer folks. The vast majority of latin folks arent queer so of course it sounds weird to most. Whatever, people literally dont care that much and if you are suggesting politicians should try to calibrate their language to "gain votes," i think that's a great strategy to sound fake as fyck.

How does "Latino" sound "fake as fyck"? Does Ruben Gallego sound fake?

[warandwar]

Did anyone watch the debate? Brandon Johnson kept saying “Latinx”

I can't believe that some politicians still think that latinos like this term....

Progressives should start interacting with some real people and avoid the woke academic bulls*** if they want to win elections.

What's worse for those real people, appearing to be slightly soy, or destroying a school system?
If you're complaining that a politician sounds like a politician, i don't know what to tell you. Most people don't really care about that kinda stuff like they care about their kids education.

The question is though, what's the point of using it? It doesn't gain you any votes, so why bother so much? Ruben Gallego is way smarter on this than so many others are.

Theres all sorts of phrases that sound awkward that don't get the same attention. Y'know how every democrat repotically responds to shootings with calls for "commonsense gun reform"? Politicians always sound fake as fyck, whatever. Why focus on this particular word? Latinx was started by queer folks. The vast majority of latin folks arent queer so of course it sounds weird to most. Whatever, people literally dont care that much and if you are suggesting politicians should try to calibrate their language to "gain votes," i think that's a great strategy to sound fake as fyck.

How does "Latino" sound "fake as fyck"? Does Ruben Gallego sound fake?

I think you're misreading my post. If i were a politician, i'd focus on just sounding like myself. Brandon is clearly a kind of awkward, dorky guy. Trying to sound like someone he's not will just make him sound fake, which is much worse.

[GALeftist]

I think with "Latinx" as with "wokeism" it's important to remember that a healthy majority of Americans do not know what these terms mean

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

I think with "Latinx" as with "wokeism" it's important to remember that a healthy majority of Americans do not know what these terms mean

so...isn't that more reason to not use them?

[SInNYC]

Did anyone watch the debate? Brandon Johnson kept saying “Latinx”

I can't believe that some politicians still think that latinos like this term....

Progressives should start interacting with some real people and avoid the woke academic bulls*** if they want to win elections.

What's worse for those real people, appearing to be slightly soy, or destroying a school system?
If you're complaining that a politician sounds like a politician, i don't know what to tell you. Most people don't really care about that kinda stuff like they care about their kids education.

The question is though, what's the point of using it? It doesn't gain you any votes, so why bother so much? Ruben Gallego is way smarter on this than so many others are.

Theres all sorts of phrases that sound awkward that don't get the same attention. Y'know how every democrat repotically responds to shootings with calls for "commonsense gun reform"? Politicians always sound fake as fyck, whatever. Why focus on this particular word? Latinx was started by queer folks. The vast majority of latin folks arent queer so of course it sounds weird to most. Whatever, people literally dont care that much and if you are suggesting politicians should try to calibrate their language to "gain votes," i think that's a great strategy to sound fake as fyck.

To be fair the commonsense gun reform is a copy of how Republicans add the commonsense adjective to every economics proposal  to help the rich. And honestly, it seems to have worked for Rs.

Anytime a politician says commonsense my BS meter goes on, since it is seldom sensible and almost never for the common person.

[No War, but the War on Christmas]

I think with "Latinx" as with "wokeism" it's important to remember that a healthy majority of Americans do not know what these terms mean

so...isn't that more reason to not use them?

Is it impossible for my opinion to simply be 'idgaf if someone says Latinx or not?' Your obsession over the word is possibly single-handedly responsible for its continued existence all things being equal.

[Gracile]

Victory Research poll has Vallas leading:

https://twitter.com/maryannahernnbc/status/1634927942546644992

[brucejoel99]

Victory Research poll has Vallas leading:

https://twitter.com/maryannahernnbc/status/1634927942546644992

https://twitter.com/austinahlman/status/1634957914044792833

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

I think with "Latinx" as with "wokeism" it's important to remember that a healthy majority of Americans do not know what these terms mean

so...isn't that more reason to not use them?

Is it impossible for my opinion to simply be 'idgaf if someone says Latinx or not?' Your obsession over the word is possibly single-handedly responsible for its continued existence all things being equal.

That's you but Latinos do care. And Ruben Gallego recognizes that.

[No War, but the War on Christmas]

Victory Research poll has Vallas leading:

https://twitter.com/maryannahernnbc/status/1634927942546644992

https://twitter.com/austinahlman/status/1634957914044792833

If this pollster is accurate, then it's clear where the momentum is. I'd like to see more statistical points of reference... But with the election in just a few weeks we probably won't get a ton more.

[Mr. Illini]

Vallas hanging with his base.

https://twitter.com/PaulVallas/status/1634997204535627776?s=20

[Suburbia]

Vallas hanging with his base.

https://twitter.com/PaulVallas/status/1634997204535627776?s=20

Once one of the main Democratic bases in America, only Democrats like Vallas, Biden, Schumer and Newsom get these people.

Once Harris, etc. ascends in the party, they're gone.

I'm surprised they still live in Chicago and haven't moved elsewhere in Cook or even suburbia in DuPage.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Vallas hanging with his base.

https://twitter.com/PaulVallas/status/1634997204535627776?s=20

See, this is why as stupid as Johnson is, he's still better than Vallas. Yuck.