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« Reply #2925 on: June 27, 2023, 11:52:00 PM »





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« Reply #2926 on: June 28, 2023, 02:17:18 AM »


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« Reply #2927 on: June 28, 2023, 02:37:53 AM »

That is what you get when you elect an idiot.
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« Reply #2928 on: June 28, 2023, 03:04:30 AM »

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« Reply #2929 on: June 28, 2023, 11:54:07 AM »



Really good article for those interested in the details of how the trial will work with classified information.
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« Reply #2930 on: June 28, 2023, 09:56:06 PM »

I’m not surprised by that audio tape. Maybe the prosecutors can get a conviction asap and get Trump to drop out of the primary or something

I supported Trump very strongly for 7 years. But I’m ready for someone else now. I just wish other Repubs would do the same and elect someone else in the primary

How wise of you to only support a fascist for 7 years.
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« Reply #2931 on: June 29, 2023, 01:22:15 PM »


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« Reply #2932 on: June 29, 2023, 01:37:23 PM »

I’m not surprised by that audio tape. Maybe the prosecutors can get a conviction asap and get Trump to drop out of the primary or something

I supported Trump very strongly for 7 years. But I’m ready for someone else now. I just wish other Repubs would do the same and elect someone else in the primary

How wise of you to only support a fascist for 7 years.


How long was the prodigal son gone squandering his inheritance?
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« Reply #2933 on: June 29, 2023, 03:48:27 PM »



Really good article for those interested in the details of how the trial will work with classified information.

Why did it take so long to indict Trump after the raid
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« Reply #2934 on: June 30, 2023, 04:18:32 PM »

Prosecutors are prepared to hit Trump and his allies with new charges, sources say
Prosecutors could bring between 30 to 45 additional criminal charges against the former president in the coming weeks, The Independent has learned

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The Department of Justice is prepared to seek indictments against multiple figures in former president Donald Trump’s orbit and may yet bring additional charges against the ex-president in the coming weeks, The Independent has learned.

According to sources familiar with the matter, the department has made preparations to bring what is known as a “superseding indictment"

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The Independent understands that prosecutors’ decision on whether to seek additional charges from a grand jury — and where to seek them — will depend in part on whether they feel the Trump-appointed district judge overseeing the case against him in the Southern District of Florida, Aileen Cannon, is giving undue deference to the...former president.

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The team of federal prosecutors working under Special Counsel Jack Smith is currently prepared to add an “additional 30 to 45 charges” in addition to the 37-count indictment brought against Mr Trump on 8 June, either in a superseding indictment in the same Florida court or in a different federal judicial district. In either case, they would do so using evidence against the ex-president that has not yet been publicly acknowledged by the department, including other recordings prosecutors have obtained which reveal Mr Trump making incriminating statements.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-giuliani-more-charges-b2366597.html
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« Reply #2935 on: June 30, 2023, 05:27:36 PM »

Prosecutors are prepared to hit Trump and his allies with new charges, sources say
Prosecutors could bring between 30 to 45 additional criminal charges against the former president in the coming weeks, The Independent has learned

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The Department of Justice is prepared to seek indictments against multiple figures in former president Donald Trump’s orbit and may yet bring additional charges against the ex-president in the coming weeks, The Independent has learned.

According to sources familiar with the matter, the department has made preparations to bring what is known as a “superseding indictment"

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The Independent understands that prosecutors’ decision on whether to seek additional charges from a grand jury — and where to seek them — will depend in part on whether they feel the Trump-appointed district judge overseeing the case against him in the Southern District of Florida, Aileen Cannon, is giving undue deference to the...former president.

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The team of federal prosecutors working under Special Counsel Jack Smith is currently prepared to add an “additional 30 to 45 charges” in addition to the 37-count indictment brought against Mr Trump on 8 June, either in a superseding indictment in the same Florida court or in a different federal judicial district. In either case, they would do so using evidence against the ex-president that has not yet been publicly acknowledged by the department, including other recordings prosecutors have obtained which reveal Mr Trump making incriminating statements.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-giuliani-more-charges-b2366597.html
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« Reply #2936 on: June 30, 2023, 07:25:54 PM »

Susie Wiles, who is a top adviser on Trump's 2024 Campaign was one of the people shown a classified document, and holds a top position at a lobbying firm that serves Chinese Companies.

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Atop Donald Trump campaign aide, who sources told ABC News is one of the unauthorized people shown a classified document by the former president, also holds a top position at a lobbying firm that serves Chinese companies that could possibly pose a threat to national security and have aided in the nation's human rights abuses.

Susie Wiles, a campaign advisor for Trump's 2024 bid for the presidency, is co-chair of Mercury Public Affairs, which has, in recent years, received millions of dollars from Chinese companies, including Yealink, Hikvision and Alibaba, according to The New York Post. ABC News reported late Wednesday that Wiles, who has worked several Republican campaigns including Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis' 2018 gubernatorial run, was also singled out as one of the people to whom Trump revealed sensitive documents.

Wiles, according to the report, is the "representative of his political action committee" listed in special counsel Jack Smith's 37-count indictment filed earlier this month against Trump. According to the indictment, the representative visited Trump at his Bedminster golf club in August or September of 2021 and was improperly shown a classified map of an unidentified country.

Trump told the aide that "he should not be showing" the document to them and warned the person they "should not get too close," prosecutors wrote.

Wiles' rank in the Trump campaign and her firm's work for potentially hostile entities further complicates Trump's case, the Post added, while noting that "a search of the Justice Department's registry of foreign agents indicated Wiles had not worked directly for those clients."

"Susie could put Trump away for years in just one minute of testimony to Jack Smith," a rival GOP operative told the outlet. "She's got Trump by the balls, which means she can name her price for her loyalty and Trump can't say no."
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« Reply #2937 on: June 30, 2023, 09:13:05 PM »

Prosecutors are prepared to hit Trump and his allies with new charges, sources say
Prosecutors could bring between 30 to 45 additional criminal charges against the former president in the coming weeks, The Independent has learned

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The Department of Justice is prepared to seek indictments against multiple figures in former president Donald Trump’s orbit and may yet bring additional charges against the ex-president in the coming weeks, The Independent has learned.

According to sources familiar with the matter, the department has made preparations to bring what is known as a “superseding indictment"

...

The Independent understands that prosecutors’ decision on whether to seek additional charges from a grand jury — and where to seek them — will depend in part on whether they feel the Trump-appointed district judge overseeing the case against him in the Southern District of Florida, Aileen Cannon, is giving undue deference to the...former president.

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The team of federal prosecutors working under Special Counsel Jack Smith is currently prepared to add an “additional 30 to 45 charges” in addition to the 37-count indictment brought against Mr Trump on 8 June, either in a superseding indictment in the same Florida court or in a different federal judicial district. In either case, they would do so using evidence against the ex-president that has not yet been publicly acknowledged by the department, including other recordings prosecutors have obtained which reveal Mr Trump making incriminating statements.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-giuliani-more-charges-b2366597.html

I wonder if Smith files charges in New Jersey this time.
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« Reply #2938 on: July 03, 2023, 11:14:50 AM »


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« Reply #2939 on: July 04, 2023, 11:30:17 AM »




What a shame that his Secret Service protection likely guarantees him no worse a sentence than permanent house arrest.
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« Reply #2940 on: July 04, 2023, 12:42:30 PM »

It doesn't guarantee that. The Secret Service has a duty to protect him but they have no authority to to overrule or interfere with a sentence handed down by a judge. They could ask he be given house arrest but that's it. They've said they won't even think about this until it happens.
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« Reply #2941 on: July 04, 2023, 01:03:09 PM »


It doesn't guarantee that. The Secret Service has a duty to protect him but they have no authority to to overrule or interfere with a sentence handed down by a judge. They could ask he be given house arrest but that's it. They've said they won't even think about this until it happens.

Emphasis on likely, because I'd be very surprised to see Cannon - or most federal judges, tbqh - not fully defer to such an ask, given the harm to national security liable to be caused by the Secret Service having to divert any (let alone a now-greater portion) of its limited resources away from incumbent presidential protection to concentrate on the newly-presenting task of undertaking perpetual presidential protection in a BOP facility, a near-guaranteed potential strain on agency resources even if the prisoner is presumably to be sequestered from all other prisoners.

They've said they won't even think about this until it happens.

They've surely thought about it, even if they're not making any determinations on how to proceed 'til they actually have to.
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« Reply #2942 on: July 04, 2023, 03:01:00 PM »


It doesn't guarantee that. The Secret Service has a duty to protect him but they have no authority to to overrule or interfere with a sentence handed down by a judge. They could ask he be given house arrest but that's it. They've said they won't even think about this until it happens.

Emphasis on likely, because I'd be very surprised to see Cannon - or most federal judges, tbqh - not fully defer to such an ask, given the harm to national security liable to be caused by the Secret Service having to divert any (let alone a now-greater portion) of its limited resources away from incumbent presidential protection to concentrate on the newly-presenting task of undertaking perpetual presidential protection in a BOP facility, a near-guaranteed potential strain on agency resources even if the prisoner is presumably to be sequestered from all other prisoners.

They've said they won't even think about this until it happens.

They've surely thought about it, even if they're not making any determinations on how to proceed 'til they actually have to.

Why would they need to divert resources? Stick him in ADX Florence - it's specifically for prisoners who are "too high-profile or too great of a security risk for even a maximum security prison".
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« Reply #2943 on: July 04, 2023, 10:29:59 PM »




What a shame that his Secret Service protection likely guarantees him no worse a sentence than permanent house arrest.


I mean if you cut off his internet access and take away his cell phone , then house arrest basically becomes prison especially if you fence the area off .

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« Reply #2944 on: July 04, 2023, 11:33:23 PM »

Also should be noted, what Grisham witnessed might technically be a crime but he would have a very strong defense as he was President at the time so that would never be charged. But it does speak to his overall carelessness with such documents.
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« Reply #2945 on: July 05, 2023, 03:20:17 PM »

Trump Calls for 'Sick Puppet' Jack Smith to Be 'Put Out to Rest'

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Former President Donald Trump is calling for Special Counsel Jack Smith to be "defunded" and "put out to rest."

Trump, who faces federal and state felony charges as he seeks the 2024 GOP presidential nomination, has repeatedly attacked Smith since he was appointed by Attorney General Merrick Garland last year to oversee twin criminal investigations into Trump's handling of classified documents and activities related to the January 6 U.S. Capitol attack.

The ex-president was indicted on 37 felony counts in the documents case last month, with the possibility that the ongoing January 6 investigation could still bring further federal charges. Smith stressed that there was "one set of laws in this country" that "apply to everyone" in a brief statement that followed the indictment.

Trump celebrated the Fourth of July on Tuesday evening by launching his latest attack on Smith in a Truth Social post that described the special counsel as a "sick puppet" of Garland and President Joe Biden.

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-calls-sick-puppet-jack-smith-put-out-rest-1810869


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As my Poll numbers go higher & higher, the Communists, Marxists, & Fascists get more & more CRAZY with their ridiculous Indictments & Election Interference plans & plots, all controlled by an out of control, & very corrupt, DOJ/FBI. They have WEAPONIZED Law Enforcement in America at a level not seen before. Deranged Jack Smith, who is a sick puppet for A.G. Garland & Crooked Joe Biden, should be DEFUNDED & put out to rest. Republicans must get tough or the Dems will steal another Election. MAGA!
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« Reply #2946 on: July 05, 2023, 07:46:39 PM »
« Edited: July 05, 2023, 09:07:45 PM by ProudModerate2 »




What a shame that his Secret Service protection likely guarantees him no worse a sentence than permanent house arrest.

I mean if you cut off his internet access and take away his cell phone , then house arrest basically becomes prison especially if you fence the area off .

He has access to perfect climate (A/C, heat) at home. Gold toilets. Super expensive and super clean furniture, appliances, overall environment to live in. Not just "normal comforts," but millionaire comforts.
How is that "basically prison"?
There would probably be hundreds-of-thousands of people in our nation, that would like to be thrown in this "prison" compared to what they have now.
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« Reply #2947 on: July 05, 2023, 08:03:54 PM »




What a shame that his Secret Service protection likely guarantees him no worse a sentence than permanent house arrest.

I mean if you cut off his internet access and take away his cell phone , then house arrest basically becomes prison especially if you fence the area off .

He has access to perfect climate (A/C, heat) at home. Gold toilets. Super expensive and super clean furniture, appliances, overall environment to live in. Not just "normal comforts," but millionaire comforts.
How is that "basically prison"?
There would probably be hundreds-of-thousands of people in our nation, that would like to be thrown in this "prison" compared to what the have now.

Nobody said those properties would be exactly like how they are now. Say you confine him in Bedminster, and then do these things

1. Strip him of any access to the Internet(both data and WI-FI)

2. Take away his cell phone and force him to use a landline phone with a preapproved call list and a maximum per month minute limit

3. Shut down the entire property to any outside guests or employees . So all the amenities in Bedminster becomes useless with their being no employees around outside government designated cooks and his secret service protection who obviously will be busy guarding him

4. Don't let any of his family or friends live in Bedminster either so he'd have to meet them via official visits like any other prisoner does

5. Again no outside employees so rooms and furniture no longer will be clean unless he cleans them himself.

6.  Fence of the entire place so Bedminster looks like a prison now

It wouldnt be very hard to turn Bedminister into a prison
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« Reply #2948 on: July 05, 2023, 08:27:53 PM »


It doesn't guarantee that. The Secret Service has a duty to protect him but they have no authority to to overrule or interfere with a sentence handed down by a judge. They could ask he be given house arrest but that's it. They've said they won't even think about this until it happens.

Emphasis on likely, because I'd be very surprised to see Cannon - or most federal judges, tbqh - not fully defer to such an ask, given the harm to national security liable to be caused by the Secret Service having to divert any (let alone a now-greater portion) of its limited resources away from incumbent presidential protection to concentrate on the newly-presenting task of undertaking perpetual presidential protection in a BOP facility, a near-guaranteed potential strain on agency resources even if the prisoner is presumably to be sequestered from all other prisoners.

They've said they won't even think about this until it happens.

They've surely thought about it, even if they're not making any determinations on how to proceed 'til they actually have to.

Why would they need to divert resources? Stick him in ADX Florence - it's specifically for prisoners who are "too high-profile or too great of a security risk for even a maximum security prison".

Because it's simple logistics: any BOP facility - even the supermax - is inherently more security-intensive than any personal property; &, absent increased congressional appropriations, Secret Service resources are limited & assignment thereof zero-sum.
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« Reply #2949 on: July 05, 2023, 08:33:56 PM »
« Edited: July 05, 2023, 08:37:22 PM by Roll Roons »




What a shame that his Secret Service protection likely guarantees him no worse a sentence than permanent house arrest.

I mean if you cut off his internet access and take away his cell phone , then house arrest basically becomes prison especially if you fence the area off .

He has access to perfect climate (A/C, heat) at home. Gold toilets. Super expensive and super clean furniture, appliances, overall environment to live in. Not just "normal comforts," but millionaire comforts.
How is that "basically prison"?
There would probably be hundreds-of-thousands of people in our nation, that would like to be thrown in this "prison" compared to what the have now.

Nobody said those properties would be exactly like how they are now. Say you confine him in Bedminster, and then do these things

1. Strip him of any access to the Internet(both data and WI-FI)

2. Take away his cell phone and force him to use a landline phone with a preapproved call list and a maximum per month minute limit

3. Shut down the entire property to any outside guests or employees . So all the amenities in Bedminster becomes useless with their being no employees around outside government designated cooks and his secret service protection who obviously will be busy guarding him

4. Don't let any of his family or friends live in Bedminster either so he'd have to meet them via official visits like any other prisoner does

5. Again no outside employees so rooms and furniture no longer will be clean unless he cleans them himself.

6.  Fence of the entire place so Bedminster looks like a prison now

It wouldnt be very hard to turn Bedminister into a prison


Yeah, Trump being unable to host rallies or post on Truth Social would be enough of a personal hell for him, regardless of the material conditions of wherever he's confined to. It would also effectively neuter him politically because he would be unable to run a campaign or endorse any candidates.
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