Third Constitution of the Republic of Atlasia

[Brandon H]

Aye

[Everett]

Aye.

[True Democrat]

I still need input into where to put this into the constitution.

[True Democrat]

Vote on this amendment: That Article VII, Section 2, Clause 2, Sub-clause 3 be removed and the subsequent sub-clause be re-numbered accordingly.

Did this amendment ever pass?

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

I still need input into where to put this into the constitution.

I'd say as either Article III et S (3½) or as Section Two of Article III.

[Ebowed]

Vote on this amendment: That Article VII, Section 2, Clause 2, Sub-clause 3 be removed and the subsequent sub-clause be re-numbered accordingly.

Did this amendment ever pass?

Yeah.

[True Democrat]

I still need input into where to put this into the constitution.

I'd say as either Article III et S (3½) or as Section Two of Article III.

Why in the article with the Supreme Court?

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

I still need input into where to put this into the constitution.

I'd say as either Article III et S (3½) or as Section Two of Article III.

Why in the article with the Supreme Court?

It's the article about judicial proceedings and impeachment is a specialized form of that.  Since the legislature is split over two articles it doesn't really belong in either Article I or II and none of the other existing articles are even close to being a good match, so if it doesn't get an article of its own, Article III appears to be the only logical existing article to include impeachment in.

[True Democrat]

I still need input into where to put this into the constitution.

I'd say as either Article III et S (3½) or as Section Two of Article III.

Why in the article with the Supreme Court?

It's the article about judicial proceedings and impeachment is a specialized form of that.  Since the legislature is split over two articles it doesn't really belong in either Article I or II and none of the other existing articles are even close to being a good match, so if it doesn't get an article of its own, Article III appears to be the only logical existing article to include impeachment in.

Ok.  Section Two of Article III sounds good.

[Colin]

Aye

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Aye

[True Democrat]

Has this amendment passed?

[Ebowed]

Has this amendment passed?

Yes, it's passed.

[True Democrat]

So when is the final vote?

[The Man From G.O.P.]

PLEASE get to voting!

I am very eager to get this new system started.

How exciting.

[True Democrat]

Before this is passed, one amendment needs to be made.  Clearly this will not be passed before the next election in Atlasia, so Article VII, Section One, Clause Four needs to be amended to say:

The first election of the National Assembly shall be in the first April following the ratification of this constitution, and the first first session of the National Assembly shall last only two months.  The next election and session of the National Assembly shall revert to the normal system as described in Article I.

Before, I assumed that the Senate would only have to last only two months, but debate took a little longer than I had anticipated, so now the National Assembly is only two months before the first regular election.

[Brandon H]

You know if we pass a February - March Act (March 1 and 2 are named to February 29 and 30) and then have a final vote on this thing, we could pass or fail this thing before the election.

[Colin]

You know if we pass a February - March Act (March 1 and 2 are named to February 29 and 30) and then have a final vote on this thing, we could pass or fail this thing before the election.

I believe it has to be ratified by the regions as well.

I would like to introduce the President's proposed amendment.

[Brandon H]

You know if we pass a February - March Act (March 1 and 2 are named to February 29 and 30) and then have a final vote on this thing, we could pass or fail this thing before the election.

I believe it has to be ratified by the regions as well.

I would like to introduce the President's proposed amendment.

That would give a week for the regions to vote as well, assuming they did not procrastinate, which is often the case.

[True Democrat]

Porce, when is the vote on the final amendment?

[The Man From G.O.P.]

Can someone simply call for a national referendum on this for an immeadiate vote?

[Јas]

Can someone simply call for a national referendum on this for an immeadiate vote?

Presumably someone could motion that no further amendments be allowed, however, I don't see why the document should be rushed - especially when current opinion polls indicate that it is, in it's current state, more likely to fail than pass. Surely it would be better to seek to further amend the document to meet the concerns of the prospective Nay voters first.

[minionofmidas]

Can someone simply call for a national referendum on this for an immeadiate vote?

Presumably someone could motion that no further amendments be allowed, however, I don't see why the document should be rushed - especially when current opinion polls indicate that it is, in it's current state, more likely to fail than pass. Surely it would be better to seek to further amend the document to meet the concerns of the prospective Nay voters first.

Indeed, it's safe to say that the chance of passage of the document in its current state is slim indeed, though not quite none.

[Јas]

Can someone simply call for a national referendum on this for an immeadiate vote?

Presumably someone could motion that no further amendments be allowed, however, I don't see why the document should be rushed - especially when current opinion polls indicate that it is, in it's current state, more likely to fail than pass. Surely it would be better to seek to further amend the document to meet the concerns of the prospective Nay voters first.

Indeed, it's safe to say that the chance of passage of the document in its current state is slim indeed, though not quite none.

Not quite none, but it does seem that neither the Midwest nor the Pacific will pass it in it's current form. The reason, I presume, will be the abolition of regional government and identity.

[minionofmidas]

Personally, I could live with the abolution of the regions if there were way more direct democracy elements on the national level, but I can't speak for others.