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« Reply #25 on: June 01, 2022, 11:01:10 AM »

     I'll say Carter. Even though he was not a great president, he is probably the most genuinely decent man to have held the office in the modern era.
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« Reply #26 on: June 02, 2022, 07:57:02 PM »

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« Reply #27 on: June 02, 2022, 09:23:51 PM »

On a personal level, Carter.  In terms of politics, arguably none since the Republicans became the opposition to the Democrats (maybe Cleveland, but I don't know enough about his views to say).

Surely you preferred Bell to Lincoln?
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« Reply #28 on: June 02, 2022, 09:48:44 PM »

On a personal level, Carter.  In terms of politics, arguably none since the Republicans became the opposition to the Democrats (maybe Cleveland, but I don't know enough about his views to say).

Surely you preferred Bell to Lincoln?

You clearly don't know my views at all to suggest that.  Slavery was the greatest injustice of its day and needed to be abolished.  To treat someone made in the Image of God as sub-human is evil.
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« Reply #29 on: June 02, 2022, 09:49:38 PM »

On a personal level, Carter.  In terms of politics, arguably none since the Republicans became the opposition to the Democrats (maybe Cleveland, but I don't know enough about his views to say).

Surely you preferred Bell to Lincoln?

There were many fervent religious fundamentalist types who were huge supporters of Lincoln and the Republicans then . Extreme would have clearly been one of them
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« Reply #30 on: June 02, 2022, 10:22:14 PM »

On a personal level, Carter.  In terms of politics, arguably none since the Republicans became the opposition to the Democrats (maybe Cleveland, but I don't know enough about his views to say).

Surely you preferred Bell to Lincoln?

You clearly don't know my views at all to suggest that.  Slavery was the greatest injustice of its day and needed to be abolished.  To treat someone made in the Image of God as sub-human is evil.

I didn't say Breckenridge, lol.

Also, nobody is translating current views into back then. I have no doubt you (and all of us aside from Yellowhammer) would vote for Lincoln now, but if you were back then I thought you'd go for someone from your own state since that was a thing back then.
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« Reply #31 on: June 02, 2022, 11:37:30 PM »

On a personal level, Carter.  In terms of politics, arguably none since the Republicans became the opposition to the Democrats (maybe Cleveland, but I don't know enough about his views to say).

Surely you preferred Bell to Lincoln?

You clearly don't know my views at all to suggest that.  Slavery was the greatest injustice of its day and needed to be abolished.  To treat someone made in the Image of God as sub-human is evil.

I didn't say Breckenridge, lol.

Also, nobody is translating current views into back then. I have no doubt you (and all of us aside from Yellowhammer) would vote for Lincoln now, but if you were back then I thought you'd go for someone from your own state since that was a thing back then.


He has posted before how his family lived in the North back in those days
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« Reply #32 on: June 03, 2022, 12:53:05 AM »


He's neutral-ish.
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« Reply #33 on: June 03, 2022, 01:07:49 AM »

Dem (Policy): Carter
Rep (Policy): Ford

Dem (Morally): Obama
Rep (Morally): Ford
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« Reply #34 on: June 03, 2022, 01:29:11 AM »

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« Reply #35 on: June 03, 2022, 08:07:06 AM »

On a personal level, Carter.  In terms of politics, arguably none since the Republicans became the opposition to the Democrats (maybe Cleveland, but I don't know enough about his views to say).

Surely you preferred Bell to Lincoln?

You clearly don't know my views at all to suggest that.  Slavery was the greatest injustice of its day and needed to be abolished.  To treat someone made in the Image of God as sub-human is evil.

I didn't say Breckenridge, lol.

Also, nobody is translating current views into back then. I have no doubt you (and all of us aside from Yellowhammer) would vote for Lincoln now, but if you were back then I thought you'd go for someone from your own state since that was a thing back then.


He has posted before how his family lived in the North back in those days

More accurately, one side of my family was in the North (PA coal mining country), while the other side of my family was in the South (North and South Carolina).  So, realistically, there's no way "I" would have ever existed in the 19th Century because my "parents" never would have met.
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« Reply #36 on: June 03, 2022, 08:51:52 AM »

Ford.

Neutral on HW.
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« Reply #37 on: June 03, 2022, 10:41:36 AM »

On a personal level, Carter.  In terms of politics, arguably none since the Republicans became the opposition to the Democrats (maybe Cleveland, but I don't know enough about his views to say).

Surely you preferred Bell to Lincoln?

You clearly don't know my views at all to suggest that.  Slavery was the greatest injustice of its day and needed to be abolished.  To treat someone made in the Image of God as sub-human is evil.

I didn't say Breckenridge, lol.

Also, nobody is translating current views into back then. I have no doubt you (and all of us aside from Yellowhammer) would vote for Lincoln now, but if you were back then I thought you'd go for someone from your own state since that was a thing back then.


He has posted before how his family lived in the North back in those days

More accurately, one side of my family was in the North (PA coal mining country), while the other side of my family was in the South (North and South Carolina).  So, realistically, there's no way "I" would have ever existed in the 19th Century because my "parents" never would have met.

Oh ok .


Question would you say though the equivalent of someone with your views and background would be the Northern WASPs in those days
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« Reply #38 on: June 03, 2022, 10:56:54 AM »

Rep (politically): Trump
Dem (politically): Biden

Rep (morally): W. Bush
Dem (morally): Carter
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« Reply #39 on: June 04, 2022, 11:47:38 PM »

What’s the opposite of independent?
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« Reply #40 on: June 05, 2022, 04:13:37 AM »

Gerald Rudolph Ford (massive FF), George Bush Sr. (Tilt FF)
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« Reply #41 on: June 05, 2022, 05:44:31 AM »

W Bush doesn't seem like a bad person, just not the smartest and he made a lot of mistakes. HW Bush was not a great President but actually did a decent job. I think you can respect politicians on the other side without voting for them. Modern Republican politicians are genuinely terrible people and dangerous backward extremists, though.
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« Reply #42 on: June 05, 2022, 09:31:37 PM »

Probably Herbert Hoover.

He really got unlucky that the Great Depression happened while he was President, and the man was a great humanitarian both before and after his Presidency.
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« Reply #43 on: June 05, 2022, 09:42:33 PM »

Probably Herbert Hoover.

He really got unlucky that the Great Depression happened while he was President, and the man was a great humanitarian both before and after his Presidency.
I'd certainly consider Hoover an FF. He sucked as President, but he certainly had many talents.
The epitome of the right person for the wrong time; he would not have been so bad if he served in place of Calvin Coolidge.
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