Should Libertarians and Greens form a coalition?

[MaC]

Well, Libertarians, Greens, UST/Constitution and other independents.  I think we can work together for some common goals such as equal ballot status for all parties, allowing all members into debates, repealing welfare for the Democrats and Republicans to run campaigns, repealing draconian ballot measures, and other democracy roadblocks.

Yes, I think that the religiousness of the Consitution Party isn't good, and the leftism of the Greens is even worse, but we need to stick together on helping eachother when it comes to taking the first steps.  Getting elected will be something else altogether, but we should worry about that when the time comes..

[Gabu]

I'll vote yes, but that's because I think they would all end up killing each other.

[KEmperor]

Considering that most greens tend to be watermelons(green on the outside, red on the inside), I don't see how that would work.

[Alcon]

Considering that most greens tend to be watermelons(green on the outside, red on the inside)

Hahaha.  I'm not entirely sure what that means, but nice.

[Everett]

Considering that most greens tend to be watermelons(green on the outside, red on the inside)

Hahaha.  I'm not entirely sure what that means, but nice.

I think it means that he's drunk.

[KEmperor]

Considering that most greens tend to be watermelons(green on the outside, red on the inside)

Hahaha.  I'm not entirely sure what that means, but nice.

I think it means that he's drunk.

It means that most members of the Green party are socialist on non-environmental issues.

[Alcon]

Considering that most greens tend to be watermelons(green on the outside, red on the inside)

Hahaha.  I'm not entirely sure what that means, but nice.

I think it means that he's drunk.

It means that most members of the Green party are socialist on non-environmental issues.

I don't think they're very secretive about that.  And they're really not communists.

[Gabu]

Considering that most greens tend to be watermelons(green on the outside, red on the inside)

Hahaha.  I'm not entirely sure what that means, but nice.

I think it means that he's drunk.

It means that most members of the Green party are socialist on non-environmental issues.

Is... this some sort of revelation, or something?  They're also pretty socialist on environmental issues, too.  I don't think they attempt to cover that fact up.

[Gustaf]

Considering that most greens tend to be watermelons(green on the outside, red on the inside), I don't see how that would work.

That's what we used to say of the Centre Party here in Sweden...Watermelons, green on the outside red on the inside and with small brown seeds.

[NewFederalist]

Well, Libertarians, Greens, UST/Constitution and other independents.  I think we can work together for some common goals such as equal ballot status for all parties, allowing all members into debates, repealing welfare for the Democrats and Republicans to run campaigns, repealing draconian ballot measures, and other democracy roadblocks.

Yes, I think that the religiousness of the Consitution Party isn't good, and the leftism of the Greens is even worse, but we need to stick together on helping eachother when it comes to taking the first steps.  Getting elected will be something else altogether, but we should worry about that when the time comes..

I have spent a lot of time working with minor parties and the only accommodation the Greens, Libertarians, Constitutionalists, Reformers and other assorted minor parties can possibly do for each other is cooperate on ballot access issues. Beyond that they might be able to work out some sort of arrangement (like the Alliance in the UK before the Liberals and SDP merged) whereby they don't oppose each other in political races. They will probably all want to have a nominee for president but they might decide on not contesting each statewide race. For example, here in Pennsylvania in order to increase vote totals perhaps the Greens might run a candidate for Attorney General while the LP runs one for State Treasurer and the CP runs one for State Auditor. That way each nominee will be in a three way race most likely improving their number of votes and saving the parties resources. Otherwise, the philosophical differences are just too great to make for an effective coalition in my opinion.

[David S]

The LP and the constitution party have some things in common, but the greens are too socialist to have much in common with the other two. Although ballot access and opposition to the war are positions shared by all three.

I've taken a slightly new direction; persuade Ron Paul to run for president as a Republican.

[KEmperor]

Considering that most greens tend to be watermelons(green on the outside, red on the inside)

Hahaha.  I'm not entirely sure what that means, but nice.

I think it means that he's drunk.

It means that most members of the Green party are socialist on non-environmental issues.

Is... this some sort of revelation, or something?  They're also pretty socialist on environmental issues, too.  I don't think they attempt to cover that fact up.

No, I'm just saying its the reason why a coalition with libertarians wouldn't work.

[MaC]

The LP and the constitution party have some things in common, but the greens are too socialist to have much in common with the other two. Although ballot access and opposition to the war are positions shared by all three.

I've taken a slightly new direction; persuade Ron Paul to run for president as a Republican.

He's too old to run an effective campaign.

[John Dibble]

I can only see ballot access and equal representation in debates being the issue held in common - if that's the case I think a coalition would work if we managed to stick to those and only those issues, while still maintaining our own political identities. What we don't want is a Reform Party type situation where there isn't a coherent ideology. Basically give the coalition seperate management but support from the existing organizations, and it might work out.

[David S]

The LP and the constitution party have some things in common, but the greens are too socialist to have much in common with the other two. Although ballot access and opposition to the war are positions shared by all three.

I've taken a slightly new direction; persuade Ron Paul to run for president as a Republican.

He's too old to run an effective campaign.

Look at your options; McCain, Bloomberg, Guliani, ... Hillary, Biden, Kerry etc. Who do you see among the Republicans or the Democrats that you would want?

Admittedly his chance of getting nominated is small but its better than the chance of a Libertarian getting elected.

Even if he kicked the bucket while in office he would still be a better president than the others.

BTW even if you could get a coalition party of the Green , LP and constitution party you still could not get more than 3 or 4 % of the vote.

[Brandon H]

Based on what happened in 2004, it seems the worse the choice given by the Republicrats, the more people that will turn out to vote for the party the see as the lesser of two evils which hurts third party turn out. Remember everyone telling Ralph Nader this election is too important for him to run in and telling others this election is too important to vote for a third party? From the CP's point of view, I am kind of hoping to see Guiliani get the Republican nomination.

Anyone think Ron Paul would accept a VP offer if a big name candidate ran for a third party?

[Frodo]

The LP and the constitution party have some things in common, but the greens are too socialist to have much in common with the other two. Although ballot access and opposition to the war are positions shared by all three.

I can't speak on the Constitution Party, but as far as Greens and Libertarians are concerned, they also have plenty in common when it comes to civil liberties, a major issue in this post-9/11 era. 

[DownWithTheLeft]

Possibly Libertarians and Greens, but not the Constitution Party.  They are too moral of a party to be mentioned w/this bunch.  The Green Party should change to the "Eco-Terror Commies" and the Libertarians to the "Fiscally Responsible Pagans"

[NewFederalist]

The LP and the constitution party have some things in common, but the greens are too socialist to have much in common with the other two. Although ballot access and opposition to the war are positions shared by all three.

I can't speak on the Constitution Party, but as far as Greens and Libertarians are concerned, they also have plenty in common when it comes to civil liberties, a major issue in this post-9/11 era. 

The CP opposes the "Patriot Act" as well. They only get really crazy with regard to their absolutist position on abortion (although their stand on illegal immigration might be considered extreme by some as well).

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The LP and the constitution party have some things in common, but the greens are too socialist to have much in common with the other two. Although ballot access and opposition to the war are positions shared by all three.

I can't speak on the Constitution Party, but as far as Greens and Libertarians are concerned, they also have plenty in common when it comes to civil liberties, a major issue in this post-9/11 era. 

The CP opposes the "Patriot Act" as well. They only get really crazy with regard to their absolutist position on abortion (although their stand on illegal immigration might be considered extreme by some as well).

You mean they're less of a crazy extremist party than the Republican party? That's just sad.

[jerusalemcar5]

Nope, third parties are trashy.

[Undisguised Sockpuppet]

democrats are trashy and they care about societal parasites too mcuh

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democrats are trashy and they care about societal parasites too mcuh

No, they just understand Keynesian economics.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

The US Green party sadly seems to be filled with ex-democrats who opposed Clinton, Free Trade, etc and\or left wing kooks.

A true Green Party and a true libertarian party (the US party seems to run a platform of Big democratically elected goverments = sucks, Big undemocratic monster unregulated corporations = awesome which isn't really I think of when I think Libertarian) would have alot in common imo.

But with such different real platforms a merger is impossible. What is needed is someone with Ross Perot type money.

[SPC]

They should only form a coalition for ballot access purposes. Nothing else. Classical liberalism (LP) and "envirofascism" (Green) don't mix. Even though the Greens are wrong on environment and the economy, at least their pro-drug.