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« Reply #375 on: October 11, 2023, 09:05:00 AM »

"Hamas are not terrorists" is the official line of, amongst others, the Scottish Green party.
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« Reply #376 on: October 11, 2023, 02:38:14 PM »

To (lengthily) elaborated on what Zinneke has written, the NUPES alliance is going through very turbulent times since several weeks now, having to deal with LFI-related controversies on a regular basis and with the presidential ambitions of Mélenchon for 2027 because, unlike what he is publicly pretending, he is intending to run again for president and has an interest into letting the LFI and the NUPES slipping into chaos in order to impose himself as the only unifying person.


* Firstly, by now, it seems more and more likely that, contrary to the wishes of the LFI, there will be no NUPES unity list in the 2024 European elections.

Back in late August, Mélenchon came back with the very weird idea of supporting a NUPES list headed by... Ségolène Royal. Now widely seen as an opportunist has-been, Tatie Ségolène is no longer holding a political mandate after her job as an ambassador for the Arctic and Antarctic Poles under Macron hasn’t been renewed and as her attempt to get elected in 2021 a senator for French expats at the helm of a PS dissident list spectacularly failed. Yet, she self-proclaimed the head of a NUPES list for the 2024 European elections and received the support of Mélenchon for some unclear and probably very bad reasons (clearly not to increase the NUPES’ electoral chances because Ségolène isn’t a very popular figure on the left).

Anyway, Ségolène has pissed so much people that the offer was immediately rejected by the PS, EELV and the PCF and even the LFI (where many people inside were unhappy with the choice of Ségolène as top candidate). The latter, a week after the announcement of the candidacy of Royal, clarified it would not ultimately not support her, hence putting an end to that farce. Royal has anyway find a new job in the meantime, being now a panelist in Cyril Hanouna’s utter trash talk show on one of the TV stations of Bolloré.

The PS, EELV and the PCF are now all inclined to run each their own separate list in the European elections, especially because the main reason advanced by the LFI to constitute a joint list is very ludicrous: becoming the most-voted list, a totally useless reward in European elections (because anyway components of the NUPES will seat in different parliamentary groups), even more as polls are predicting the left as a whole would win more seats by running different lists (providing however the four lists cross the threshold) than by running a single list.



* Last month, Sophia Chikirou, a LFI deputy from Paris as well as a communication advisor (and strongly rumored to be the girlfriend of Mélenchon), totally pissed off the PCF by posting on Facebook a text in which she wrote ‘there is some Doriot in Roussel’, hence comparing the current PCF national secretary to Jacques Doriot, a PCF deputy and mayor of Saint-Denis in the 1930s who was excluded from the party in 1934 as part of the Stalinist purges and came to head a Mussolini-financed fascist party before turning into a fervent collaborator during the Nazi occupation, going as far as fighting on the Soviet front wearing the Wehrmacht uniform (and actually, Doriot is hardly an isolated case as there is no less than three former PCF general-secretaries – Louis Sellier, Henri Barbé, Pierre Celor – who ended up embracing fascism and/or collaboration after their exclusion from the party).

The PCF has denounced Chikirou’s text as a ‘call for hate’ and demanded excuses it is still waiting for.



* Anyway, last week, Chikirou again got publicity as the French France 2 public television channel aired a report about her dubious practices when the president of Le Média, a left-wing web television closely aligned on LFI. France 2 notably revealed the toxic management of Chikirou who had disrespected labor laws and displayed a great lack of consideration for her employees, calling them ‘dirty rats [she] will crush’ and making a joke about an employee sent to the hospital after having had a discomfort.

Such practices are sadly widespread among anti-capitalist and left-wing medias which are ironically absolutely no better than the mainstream medias when it comes to workers’ rights as demonstrated by recent revelations about the union-busting practices in the tankie Le Monde diplomatique newspaper or about the abusive labor practices in the Blast web television (founded by a former editor-in-chief of Le Média, fired from that outlet precisely because of his toxic management) as well by the sentencing last year of the founder of the Là-bas si j’y suis left-wing news website (for which François Ruffin had previously worked when it was on a public radio station) for moral harassment after the website's staff had went on strike.

But the most widely publicized part of the report was when Chikirou sent a homophobic message after journalists from Le Média had demanded a public apology for the diffusion of fake news. Well, yes, because there is also that: Le Média has been criticized for his outrageously pro-Assad coverage of the Syrian Civil War, refusing to diffuse a video showing the bombing of the rebels by the Syrian Army because it would be ‘sensationalist’ while at same time diffusing the testimony of a student about the French police having sent another student into a coma, a testimony which quickly turned as totally false. It also invited various conspiracy theorists, including one who claimed that the Islamic State has been created by Israel.

Anyway, the LFI bigwigs were quite a bit embarrassed by the homophobic slur of Chikirou with Mathilde Panot explained that, while the slur is indeed homophobic, Chikirou is absolutely not a homophobic person. Several LFI deputies attempted to present the France 2 report as a sexist and classist attack against Chikirou, notwithstanding the fact that the same Chikirou has been one of the strongest supporter of Quatennens (the one who slapped his wife remember) and even advised his communication. For her part, Danielle Simonnet, a LFI deputy from Paris no longer in good terms with Mélenchon, has demanded explanations to Chikirou she is still waiting for.

To end with Chikirou, an obvious fraud (she used to be part of that utter joke that was ‘left-wing Sarkozyism’), she is also facing investigations over irregular financial practices and suspicions of over-invoicing during the Mélenchon 2017 campaign and may be indicted for ‘serious fraud’ in the next weeks, another thorn in the side of the LFI.



* Last week, to show you how much his anti-imperialism is bogus, Mélenchon went to a long trip to Morocco during which he had a private meeting with Fouad Ali El Himma, a very close adviser to King Muhammad VI who had previously served as an interior minister and is the founder of the Makhzen’s sponsored corrupt and non-ideological Authenticity and Modernity Party. During the trip, Mélenchon also pissed up the Polisario and its supporters with declarations considered as favorable to Rabat, saying notably that LFI has only relationships with 'parties of the Moroccan democracy' and that 'loving Morocco is maintaining the continuity of the Green March' (apparently, there are stateless Arabs not worth defending the cause). Mélenchon also praised the Moroccan government, even posting a tweet to denounce the poverty among French students, contrasting it with the situation in Morocco, where ‘students aren’t hungry’.



* The icing on the cake has obviously been the abject response of Mélenchon and the LFI to the ongoing situation in Israel.

In the first statement it issued, the LFI is describing the terrorist attacks as ‘the armed offensive of Palestinian forces led by the Hamas’, hinting it is considering the Islamist group as a legit military force. It also blamed the sole ‘context of intensification of the Israeli policy of occupation in Gaza, the West Bank and East Jerusalem’ for the outbreak of violence while ‘regretting the Israeli and Palestinian deaths’. At the time of the publication of the message, no Palestinian death had been reported.

In spite of criticisms, the LFI leadership, in first place Bompard and Panot, has carefully avoided to label the Hamas attacks as acts of terrorism, preferring describing them as ‘war crimes’.

Mélenchon’s attitude has been absolutely disgusting accusing the Representative Council of French Jewish Institutions (CRIF) of aligning French politicians on the positions of the Israeli government and preventing the solidarity of the French people with the wish for peace and demand for an immediate cease-fire (this was the same CRIF that Mélenchon blamed for the defeat of Corbyn in 2019 by the way), attacking his PS and EELV allies lumped together with Macron and the RN for allegedly having displayed ‘a unilateral support to the Israeli far-right government' and calling ‘disgraceful’ the reaction of Anne Hidalgo because she expressed her total support for the Israeli people, a move Mélenchon is labeling as a ‘clientelist declaration’ while also accusing the mayor of Paris to prefer ‘the war to LFI rather than the fight for peace’. The worse (and the most revealing one) tweet may be however the one where he is accusing the prime minister, Élisabeth Borne (whose father, remember, was a Polish Jew), of supporting ‘a foreign point of view’ and pretending she is exploiting the war in Israel to led her own war against LFI (the prime minister criticizing LFI is the same that Hamas murdering thousands of civilians, you see).

At this point, Mélenchon is just indefensible. This is a reuse of the old ‘Jewish warmonger’ antisemitic trope and, as Mélenchon had himself mentioned the figure of Marcel Déat in an article on last July to criticize the Danish Social Democrats, I want to remember the 'Jewish warmonger' accusation has been used by a whole segment of the 1930s French left – the one defending pacifist views like the aforementioned Déat (SFIO deputy who was expelled from the party for his planist and authoritarian views), Paul Faure (the general-secretary of the SFIO from 1920 to 1940), René Belin (secretary of the CGT union between 1933 and 1940), Charles Spinasse (economy minister in the Popular Front government) or Ludovic Zoretti (head of the CGT education federation) – to disqualify Léon Blum’s willingness to intervene in the Spanish Civil War on the Republican side or to oppose the appeasement policy with Hitler’s Germany by using his Jewish origins which supposedly explained Blum’s alleged bellicosity and strong hostility towards the Nazi regime. Blum who, of course, already faced very nasty antisemitic attacks from the right-wing politicians and newspapers.

Déat, Faure, Belin, Spinasse and Zoretti like many left-wing and not left-wing pacifists logically ended up collaborating with the Nazis during the occupation: Belin served as a labor minister in the Vichy regime; Spinasse made on 10 July 1940 a powerful discourse calling for an authoritarian regime and supporting awarding the full powers to Pétain; Faure led most of his supporters in parliament to vote in favor of the end of the Third Republic and the full powers to Pétain (while the Blum-led SFIO faction overwhelmingly voted against); Déat wrote the infamous ‘Why Die for Danzig?’ article in May 1939 before founding an über-collabo party and becoming in 1944 a member of the Sigmaringen puppet French government-in-exile; Zoretti joined Déat’s party and wrote in 1940 a pamphlet denouncing the control of the ‘bellicose Jewry’ over the SFIO. If you can read French, this article ('Pacifism as a vector of antisemitism on the left in the 1930s') is particularly interesting and, sadly, still strongly resonates today.

Anyway, the indulgence displayed by LFI towards the Hamas has led even some of the most ardent supporters of the NUPES alliance in the PS, like Jérôme Guedj, to publicly question what Guedj is calling ‘the strategic line of the LFI of conflictualization of the society’ as well as the continuation of the alliance with LFI. Ruffin also publicly criticized the stance of LFI on the Hamas terrorist attacks, stating that the answer of the left-wing populist movement ‘isn’t in line with the importance of the events’ and labeled the Islamist group ‘a fanatic and terrorist organization’.



* All of this have political consequences. This is where Mélenchon is leading the left:



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LFI considered as more dangerous for democracy than the RN, according to a poll.

Indeed, according to that Ipsos poll made before the Hamas terrorist attacks, 57% of the surveyed are saying that LFI is dangerous for democracy against 52% for the RN. 60% agree that LFI is a party ‘which is fueling violence’ against 52% for the RN. Finally, 44% are thinking the RN is ready to govern the country against only 28% for the LFI.

Mélenchon is paving the way for a victory of the RN in 2027 by making the main left-wing party more toxic than the far-right and is helping to the normalization of the RN by making Le Pen’s party looking like more constructive and serious and less extremist than LFI. The contrast between the LFI’s holier-than-thou discourse and the reality of its disgusting practices, leading to the (totally accurate in my view) assumption they are a bunch of massive hypocrites, as well as its absence of a half-realist economic platform also aren’t helping.
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« Reply #377 on: October 12, 2023, 05:15:49 PM »

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67088547
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France's interior minister has banned all pro-Palestinian demonstrations in the country.

In a statement, Gérald Darmanin ordered foreign nationals who break the rules to be "systematically" deported.

The move comes as European governments fear a rise in antisemitism triggered by the Israel-Hamas war.

A more civilized country than America bans all pro Palestine protests.
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« Reply #378 on: October 12, 2023, 05:42:11 PM »

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67088547
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France's interior minister has banned all pro-Palestinian demonstrations in the country.

In a statement, Gérald Darmanin ordered foreign nationals who break the rules to be "systematically" deported.

The move comes as European governments fear a rise in antisemitism triggered by the Israel-Hamas war.

A more civilized country than America bans all pro Palestine protests.

Gérald Darmanin is the type who would ban all demonstrations of any kind (but police unions) is he could.
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« Reply #379 on: October 12, 2023, 06:56:28 PM »
« Edited: October 12, 2023, 07:00:07 PM by I hate NIMBYs »

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67088547
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France's interior minister has banned all pro-Palestinian demonstrations in the country.

In a statement, Gérald Darmanin ordered foreign nationals who break the rules to be "systematically" deported.

The move comes as European governments fear a rise in antisemitism triggered by the Israel-Hamas war.

A more civilized country than America bans all pro Palestine protests.

How is this civilized? Banning pro-Palestine protests is quite an authoritarian move, and unjustified IMO. In the past, people in France have been prosecuted for insulting the President. Not a good precedent for civil liberties.

(Unless you're being sarcastic)
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« Reply #380 on: October 12, 2023, 07:03:06 PM »

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67088547
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France's interior minister has banned all pro-Palestinian demonstrations in the country.

In a statement, Gérald Darmanin ordered foreign nationals who break the rules to be "systematically" deported.

The move comes as European governments fear a rise in antisemitism triggered by the Israel-Hamas war.

A more civilized country than America bans all pro Palestine protests.

How is this civilized? Banning pro-Palestine protests is quite an authoritarian move, and unjustified IMO. In the past, people in France have been prosecuted for insulting the President. Not a good precedent for civil liberties.

(Unless you're being sarcastic)
I'm mocking Antonio on this forum who bragged France is more civilized than America because America lets Charlie Kirk speak.
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« Reply #381 on: October 12, 2023, 07:17:15 PM »

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67088547
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France's interior minister has banned all pro-Palestinian demonstrations in the country.

In a statement, Gérald Darmanin ordered foreign nationals who break the rules to be "systematically" deported.

The move comes as European governments fear a rise in antisemitism triggered by the Israel-Hamas war.

A more civilized country than America bans all pro Palestine protests.

How is this civilized? Banning pro-Palestine protests is quite an authoritarian move, and unjustified IMO. In the past, people in France have been prosecuted for insulting the President. Not a good precedent for civil liberties.

(Unless you're being sarcastic)
I'm mocking Antonio on this forum who bragged France is more civilized than America because America lets Charlie Kirk speak.
Ok, gotcha
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« Reply #382 on: October 12, 2023, 10:24:34 PM »

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67088547
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France's interior minister has banned all pro-Palestinian demonstrations in the country.

In a statement, Gérald Darmanin ordered foreign nationals who break the rules to be "systematically" deported.

The move comes as European governments fear a rise in antisemitism triggered by the Israel-Hamas war.

A more civilized country than America bans all pro Palestine protests.

How is this civilized? Banning pro-Palestine protests is quite an authoritarian move, and unjustified IMO. In the past, people in France have been prosecuted for insulting the President. Not a good precedent for civil liberties.

(Unless you're being sarcastic)
I'm mocking Antonio on this forum who bragged France is more civilized than America because America lets Charlie Kirk speak.
Well, shortly before he began his self-imposed ban he had a (now-deleted) outburst insisting that everyone who opposes further aid to Ukraine should be deported from first-world countries. He's become a self-parody and I would simply not think too much about the things he says.
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« Reply #383 on: October 13, 2023, 08:54:50 AM »
« Edited: October 13, 2023, 09:32:16 AM by CumbrianLefty »

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67088547
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France's interior minister has banned all pro-Palestinian demonstrations in the country.

In a statement, Gérald Darmanin ordered foreign nationals who break the rules to be "systematically" deported.

The move comes as European governments fear a rise in antisemitism triggered by the Israel-Hamas war.

A more civilized country than America bans all pro Palestine protests.

Gérald Darmanin is the type who would ban all demonstrations of any kind (but police unions) is he could.

So you ban all "pro-Palestine" protests, and they rebadge themselves as (say) "pro-peace" protests.

What then?

Alternatively, don't ban stuff already well covered by existing public order laws.
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« Reply #384 on: October 13, 2023, 11:41:09 AM »

Teacher killed in France school stabbing

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A teacher has been killed and two people seriously injured in a knife attack at a school in France.

The attack happened at Gambetta high school in the northern city of Arras at about 11:00 local time (09:00 GMT).

The attacker has been arrested and is now in custody.

Witness say he shouted "Allahu Akbar", or "God is greatest", during the attack. Visiting the school, President Emmanuel Macron condemned the "barbarity of Islamist terrorism".

Mr Macron called on French people to stay "united" in the face of the attack, to "not give in to terror or let anything divide us".

He said police had averted another attempted attack in another part of France.

The man killed was a French language teacher. Those injured were another teacher and a security guard.

Mr Macron said the teacher had "come forward to protect others and had without doubt saved many lives".

The attacker, named as 20-year-old Russian national Mohamed Mogouchkov, is of Chechen origin and known to the security services for his involvement with radical Islam, according to police.
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« Reply #385 on: October 13, 2023, 11:44:13 AM »

The fact that the killer has the exact same profile as the murderer of Samuel Paty from three years ago is a tragedy. It is obvious that France made a mistake allowing these chechen "refugees" in. This might not be politically correct to say but there really seems to be a problem with Islam. If I were french, I'd certainly vote for Lepen over Melenchon.
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« Reply #386 on: October 14, 2023, 04:34:12 PM »

The fact that the killer has the exact same profile as the murderer of Samuel Paty from three years ago is a tragedy. It is obvious that France made a mistake allowing these chechen "refugees" in. This might not be politically correct to say but there really seems to be a problem with Islam. If I were french, I'd certainly vote for Lepen over Melenchon.

Honestly I will defend the chechens emigrees. Most of them are clearly fine people who are doing nothing wrong and are clearly Well integrated into the french society in various security jobs apparently.

It is true however that a tiny minority of them have fallen Much more to dijadism than the other immigrants from Muslim background
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« Reply #387 on: October 14, 2023, 04:42:59 PM »

I guess we’re seeing the same kind of security failure as with Netanyahu: the government is so focused on stoking hatred and throwing red meat to the far right that they forgot to, you know, fight terrorism.
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« Reply #388 on: October 14, 2023, 05:00:06 PM »

I guess we’re seeing the same kind of security failure as with Netanyahu: the government is so focused on stoking hatred and throwing red meat to the far right that they forgot to, you know, fight terrorism.

They don't forget. They need terrorism to happen to scare people into voting for them.
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« Reply #389 on: October 15, 2023, 04:21:45 AM »

The issue is the massive proliferation of mosques with extremist views, with French authorities allowed Saudi and Qatari wallets to fund.

I'm not sure what happened to the "Islam de France" idea but it wasn't exactly the worst one.
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« Reply #390 on: October 15, 2023, 08:09:30 AM »

PCF have passed a resolution calling the current NUPES situation a "dead end" and for a "new chapter" of Left unity.
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« Reply #391 on: October 15, 2023, 12:07:39 PM »

The issue is the massive proliferation of mosques with extremist views, with French authorities allowed Saudi and Qatari wallets to fund.

I'm not sure what happened to the "Islam de France" idea but it wasn't exactly the worst one.
I'm not going to Say this isn't a problem but I'm optimistic this about to be resolved.
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« Reply #392 on: October 15, 2023, 05:55:51 PM »

I think it is very, very hard to overstate just how completely abandoned/repelled by the French state even 'model' North African 'immigrants' feel. From personal experience, it takes a job as a financial analyst at Moody's to merely feel 'disappointed' in Macron and vote Hidalgo instead. Most of the (aggressively secular) French Algerians and Tunisians I know didn't bother voting in the second round last year.

Just offering this as background as to why Macron-Darmanin's last round of blind repression is so nasty and should be appreciated that way.
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« Reply #393 on: October 16, 2023, 02:02:22 PM »

Another 2 people shot dead in Brussels, just for being Swedish, and a teacher killed in France but let's Segway into the hard issue of Moody's financial analysts not voting anymore...
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« Reply #394 on: October 17, 2023, 08:41:37 AM »

Another 2 people shot dead in Brussels, just for being Swedish, and a teacher killed in France but let's Segway into the hard issue of Moody's financial analysts not voting anymore...

Heh, its actually segue.

Don't normally pick up on typos, but the fact it is a French derived word makes this one irresistible Smiley
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« Reply #395 on: October 17, 2023, 09:33:14 AM »

Another 2 people shot dead in Brussels, just for being Swedish, and a teacher killed in France but let's Segway into the hard issue of Moody's financial analysts not voting anymore...

Heh, its actually segue.

Don't normally pick up on typos, but the fact it is a French derived word makes this one irresistible Smiley

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« Reply #396 on: October 20, 2023, 06:22:58 AM »
« Edited: October 20, 2023, 06:27:43 AM by Zinneke »

Darmamin is now at risk of being sued for libel for accusing French footballer Karim Benzema of belonging to Muslim Brotherhood networks even though Benzema is currently playing his trade in a country that considers the Muslim Brotherhood to be a terrorist organisation. Darmamin, not understanding the concept of libel, said he'd retract his comments if Benzema tweeted a tribute to the murdered school teacher.

Darmamin could resign if only to just double down on his idiocy and line up a hard-right-Marconiste-loyalist type candidacy. Massive cuck.

Incidentally, 347 "incidents" during the minute of silence for the murdered teacher Dominique Bernard.
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« Reply #397 on: October 21, 2023, 12:44:05 PM »

The always-competitive French seem determined to produce even worse voting options than the Americans and I think they’ll achieve it
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« Reply #398 on: November 06, 2023, 05:56:08 PM »

LFI and Mélenchon keeps digging. Their ‘anti-Zionist’ stances have now received the open endorsement of no less than Rivarol:



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The kiss of death of the anti-Semitic far-right to the anti-Zionist far-left.

When Jérôme Bourbon (‘Rivarol’) praises the ‘courage’ of Jean-Luc Mélenchon by comparing him to Jean-Marie Le Pen: two men fighting the terrible ‘lobby’.

Rivarol is a relatively obscure Petainist and reactionary trash weekly, mostly read by aging and wealthy people nostalgic of the Vichy regime whose editor-in-chief, the aforementioned Jérôme Bourbon, is a Catholic fundamentalist and an anti-Semitic buffoon who broke with the FN after the election in 2011 of Marine Le Pen as the party’s president. Indeed Bourbon considers the new leader of the far-right party as a ‘fundamentally left-wing woman who is going in night-clubs at night’ and I spare you the outrageous declarations he made against MLP and her Jew/gay collaborators at the time, declarations that led him to be sued by the said MLP and been sentenced for public insults and libel. One of his numerous convictions as Bourbon is routinely sentenced by courts for his anti-Semitic and Holocaust negationist publications, either in Rivarol (like the infamous 2005 interview of Jean-Marie Le Pen in which the then-FN leader claimed that German occupation hasn’t been ‘particularly inhumane’) either on social networks like Twitter which has enabled him to widen his audience, even if at a lesser extent than other French 'star anti-Semites' like the red-brown (more brown than red though) ‘ideologue’ on YouTube Alain Soral, the Iranian-sponsored comedian Dieudonné M’Bala M’Bala or the über-racist national-liberal aristocrat Henry de Lesquen.

In his article in Rivarol, Bourbon, in addition to drawing a parallel between Mélenchon and Jean-Marie Le Pen and praising the ‘courage’ of the LFI leader of not fully aligning on the ‘Zionist entity’, is also complaining about the ‘barbaric acts’ committed against Palestinians being covered up by the ‘medias totally controlled by the Lobby in the Western world’ (in case you have doubt about Bourbon not being an anti-Semitic scum).



You may think that Mélenchon, after that unwelcomed support that is making the claims that Roussel is the new Doriot because the mainstream right has said some nice things about him even more ridiculous and totally hypocrite, would have reconsider his strategy but nope.

He has continued with what should be called anti-Semitic dog whistles like when he posted a very controversial tweet where he opposes Yaël Braun-Pivet, the (Jewish) president of the National Assembly to ‘France’ symbolized by pro-Palestinian protesters, and may an *odd* choice of words by using the weird formulation of ‘to camp in Tel Aviv’ to describe the official trip of Braun-Pivet in Israel. Reference to the death camps or to the wandering Jew?

And two days ago, he made a new tweet to criticize the supposedly biased coverage of the pro-Palestinian protests by BFM TV and Libération which is including a reference to French-Israeli businessman Patrick Drahi (‘same owner, same lies’), notwithstanding the fact that Drahi is no longer the owner of Libération. A blatant lie for which neither he nor the LFI has apologized. There is absolutely nothing to expect from that party.



Of course, this is absolute gold for the RN, which could hence easily gaining a ‘republican’ legitimacy and pose as ‘a shield’ for French Jews but, oops, in an interview given to BFM TV yesterday, Jordan Bardella repeatedly claimed that he doesn’t believe that Jean-Marie Le Pen was an anti-Semite:



Yeah sure, the Le Pen who made repeated declarations about Shoah being ‘a detail of history’, who got Jewish journalists booed during a FN meeting, who made puns about crematory ovens or who claimed that Mendès France was focusing ‘patriotic, almost physical repulsions’ (that was already in 1956) was absolutely not an anti-Semite.

Just few hours before, Olivier Faure foolishly called all major political forces to gather against anti-Semitism, even the RN providing the latter ‘cuts itself from its own history and part of its elected officials’ (a reference to Frédéric Boccaletti, a RN deputy from Var, who used to be an editor of Charles Maurras’ works as well as the owner of a bookshop specialized into the sale of anti-Semitic and negationist books). A proposal not well-received even inside the PS (allowing Mayer-Rossignol to criticize Faure from the left) and which enabled LFI to score cheap points in the fight against anti-Semitism by expressing outrage at the idea of joining the RN, a party with anti-Semitic roots, and by reminding that Bardella previously served as a parliamentary assistant to Jean-François Jalkh, a relatively unknown bigwig of the FN forced to resign the interim leadership of the party in 2017 after it emerged he made comments in 2000 about the technical impossibility of using Zyklon B for mass extermination.



A reminder that, unlike what pundits and intellectual frauds like Finkielkraut are claiming, anti-Semitism is still well alive within the French far-right and isn’t the monopoly of migrants with a Muslim background.

A case in point has been the recent decision of Interior Ministry to disband Civitas, a Catholic fundamentalist and nationalist party after declarations made during the party’s ‘summer university’ calling for the stripping of Jews from their French citizenship on the grounds that the 1791 Jewish emancipation has ‘opened the way to immigration’. Civitas has additionally illegally prevented the organization of concerts in several churches or even churches deconsecrated since centuries because the artists, while approved by the Catholic Church hierarchy, weren’t to their liking (Kali Malone’s music is ‘profanatory’ apparently). It is also suspected of being behind the arson of the house of the mayor of Saint-Brévin who had decided to open a shelter for migrants in his commune (he has since resigned, denouncing the lack of reaction and support from the government) and its Belgian wing has recently teamed up with Islamist groups, anti-vax activists and conspirationists inside a coalition of the loonies to violently oppose the Evras sex education program.
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« Reply #399 on: November 07, 2023, 08:17:52 AM »

According to Gérald Darmanin, 1,040 anti-Semitic acts have been recorded in France since 7 October leading to the arrests of 486 persons of which 102 were ‘foreigners’. In the sole area of Paris and its inner suburbs (petite couronne), 257 anti-Semitic acts have been recorded and 90 persons arrested. For the prefect of police of Paris, there is no typical profile for the arrested offenders.

257 anti-Semitic acts have been recorded in Paris and its inner suburbs (petite couronne) leading to the arrest of 90 persons. According to the prefect of police of Paris, there is no typical profile for the people responsible of the anti-Semitic acts. This is considered as the worst wave of anti-Semitism since World War II and one must taking into account that the anti-Semitic cases are certainly under-reported.

The most shocking case of anti-Semitic violence has been the stabbing of a 30-year-old Jewish woman at her home in Lyon by an unknown who carved a swastika before fleeing. Luckily, the woman received only superficial injuries. The police is for now not fully discarding a motive unrelated to anti-Semitism for the assault (the woman is in the midst of getting divorced) but the LFI has already blamed the attack on the far-right.

At least two investigations for apology of terrorism have been opened after declarations justifying the Hamas attacks were made during pro-Palestinian demonstrations in Paris (the offender is the son of Nabil Shaath, a bigwig of the Fatah who briefly served as an acting prime minister in the Abbas administration) and in Montpellier (an orator described the 7 October attacks as an ‘act of resistance’).

A French-Moroccan imam in Beaucaire (Gard) has also been given an eight-month suspended sentence for apology of terrorism and incitement to hate and violence after having published on his Facebook account a hadith calling for fighting and killing Jews few days after the start of the Hamas attacks. He tried to justify himself by pretending not having understood the said hadith.

Stranger has been the appearances of stencil graffiti depicting stars of David on the walls of buildings in Paris and its inner suburbs.



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Aubervilliers, Saint-Ouen, Paris 14th arrondissement. Same modus operandi, same star of David stencil graffiti.

Some want to terrorize French Jews by using the same methods from the 1930s. They must be rapidly found and severely punished.

Two suspects were arrested in relation with the case, a couple of Moldovan illegals who claimed they tagged the stars of David at the request of a mysterious Russian individual in exchange of money. The two Moldovan nationals have since been expelled but the French justice is now seriously investigating a possible dirty trick operation engineered in Russia after the identification of a second couple of individuals (who have since reportedly left France) who similarly tagged stars of David in Paris and in Seine-Saint-Denis.
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