Why are the Florida Democrats so incompetent?

[Roll Roons]

This is a huge, perennially close state that could give them 30 electoral votes and at least one Senate seat. But they're so terrible that their only statewide elected official is someone who spends her time tweeting s**t like this:
https://twitter.com/NikkiFried/status/1478530049078874113

Just why do they suck so badly?

[TML]

They have neglected an important component in winning/being competitive: registering new voters into their party. They had success on this front in the mid-2000s (as part of the DNC’s 50-state strategy back then) when they increased their voter registration advantage by over 300K net voters from 2004 to 2008, but they mostly neglected these efforts in the 2010s which has resulted in Republicans winning most statewide races here since 2012, as well as them overtaking Democrats in terms of registered voters late last year.

[Bootes Void]

I think she knows she will lose so she’s sh*tposting on her way out

[Kahane's Grave Is A Gender-Neutral Bathroom]

I mean that tweet is kinda funny

[Xing]

They seem to have no idea how to build a winning coalition, which requires support from a number of different voting blocs in a state like Florida. It’s not as simple as winning a large amount of the vote in one or two specific metro areas. We can see how they assumed that Clinton’s gains among Latinos in South Florida would be permanent, and thus thought that small shifts elsewhere would be enough to flip the state.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

They don't want to accidentally win. They had a lot of close calls with Pres-2000, Gov-2010, Gov-2014, Pres-2016, Gov-2018, and Senate-2018.

[Rookie Yinzer]

Florida is Lean R at this point. It just is what it is.

[PSOL]

TSA quite literally said that they kicked the Bernie supporters out of the party on discord and that the previous head of the party was a likely Bloomberg/Trump supporter

[coloradocowboi]

They seem to have no idea how to build a winning coalition, which requires support from a number of different voting blocs in a state like Florida. It’s not as simple as winning a large amount of the vote in one or two specific metro areas. We can see how they assumed that Clinton’s gains among Latinos in South Florida would be permanent, and thus thought that small shifts elsewhere would be enough to flip the state.

Florida is Lean R at this point. It just is what it is.

Coalition-building in Florida is very difficult. Its Latin population is far more conservative (and white) than just about anywhere else in the US, not only on the "socialism" issue but on other cultural issues. Democrats can only make inroads with Cubans, Venezuelans, and Colombians by coming out so hard against socialism that they end up signaling to laborers and working-class youth that they don't want their votes.

Ultimately, I think that Florida is out of reach for Dems anyway because unlike Texas or Georgia, retirees flock there in such huge numbers that any demographic change that benefits Dems is neutralized.

[One Term Floridian]

Florida is Lean R at this point. It just is what it is.

*Likely R

[StateBoiler]

They have neglected an important component in winning/being competitive: registering new voters into their party. They had success on this front in the mid-2000s (as part of the DNC’s 50-state strategy back then) when they increased their voter registration advantage by over 300K net voters from 2004 to 2008, but they mostly neglected these efforts in the 2010s which has resulted in Republicans winning most statewide races here since 2012, as well as them overtaking Democrats in terms of registered voters late last year.

Seriously, why did Obama kill this?

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

You know FL didn't turn blue in 2008/12 until the Last mnth of the campaign, the Rs were favored to hold FL but we ended up winning the state

If a wave develops we can still win the state, DeSantis and Rubio are well within the margin of error of 4/6 pt

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Florida is Lean R at this point. It just is what it is.

*Likely R

DeSantis and Rubio are leading well within the margin of error of 4/6 pts

Abbott isn't leading by 15 Trump won it by 6 Latinos are the D's line for voting in TX, FL, AZ and NV

Omnicrom will be over after flu season in April

[Mr.Phips]

They have neglected an important component in winning/being competitive: registering new voters into their party. They had success on this front in the mid-2000s (as part of the DNC’s 50-state strategy back then) when they increased their voter registration advantage by over 300K net voters from 2004 to 2008, but they mostly neglected these efforts in the 2010s which has resulted in Republicans winning most statewide races here since 2012, as well as them overtaking Democrats in terms of registered voters late last year.

Seriously, why did Obama kill this?

Because he simply wanted to use the Democratic Party to get himself elected rather than others.

[Del Tachi]

This is a popular talking point, but why exactly have FL Dems been so bad?  the state has trended away from them thanks to shifts at the national level (i.e., White retirees and Latinos moving toward the GOP), but that shouldn't implicate the state party. 

[Calthrina950]

They have neglected an important component in winning/being competitive: registering new voters into their party. They had success on this front in the mid-2000s (as part of the DNC’s 50-state strategy back then) when they increased their voter registration advantage by over 300K net voters from 2004 to 2008, but they mostly neglected these efforts in the 2010s which has resulted in Republicans winning most statewide races here since 2012, as well as them overtaking Democrats in terms of registered voters late last year.

Seriously, why did Obama kill this?

Because he simply wanted to use the Democratic Party to get himself elected rather than others.

I'm not sure if Democrats will ever recover electorally from the damage Obama inflicted upon them downballot and upon their party infrastructure.

[Mr.Phips]

They have neglected an important component in winning/being competitive: registering new voters into their party. They had success on this front in the mid-2000s (as part of the DNC’s 50-state strategy back then) when they increased their voter registration advantage by over 300K net voters from 2004 to 2008, but they mostly neglected these efforts in the 2010s which has resulted in Republicans winning most statewide races here since 2012, as well as them overtaking Democrats in terms of registered voters late last year.

Seriously, why did Obama kill this?

Because he simply wanted to use the Democratic Party to get himself elected rather than others.

I'm not sure if Democrats will ever recover electorally from the damage Obama inflicted upon them downballot and upon their party infrastructure.

His Presidency basically did what Eisenhower did to Republicans in the 1950s, make them pretty much a minor party below the Presidency.

The worst part is that he cost Dems Scalia’s Supreme Court seat due to Dems doing so poorly in the 2010 and 2014 senate elections.

[MR DARK BRANDON]

She could have at least used the other half of the word

[EastwoodS]

They have neglected an important component in winning/being competitive: registering new voters into their party. They had success on this front in the mid-2000s (as part of the DNC’s 50-state strategy back then) when they increased their voter registration advantage by over 300K net voters from 2004 to 2008, but they mostly neglected these efforts in the 2010s which has resulted in Republicans winning most statewide races here since 2012, as well as them overtaking Democrats in terms of registered voters late last year.

Seriously, why did Obama kill this?

Because he simply wanted to use the Democratic Party to get himself elected rather than others.

I'm not sure if Democrats will ever recover electorally from the damage Obama inflicted upon them downballot and upon their party infrastructure.

His Presidency basically did what Eisenhower did to Republicans in the 1950s, make them pretty much a minor party below the Presidency.

The worst part is that he cost Dems Scalia’s Supreme Court seat due to Dems doing so poorly in the 2010 and 2014 senate elections.

That was Clinton lmao

[tmthforu94]

Is the photo supposed to be an insult or something? Potatoes are amazing, everyone loves them.

[Mr.Phips]

They have neglected an important component in winning/being competitive: registering new voters into their party. They had success on this front in the mid-2000s (as part of the DNC’s 50-state strategy back then) when they increased their voter registration advantage by over 300K net voters from 2004 to 2008, but they mostly neglected these efforts in the 2010s which has resulted in Republicans winning most statewide races here since 2012, as well as them overtaking Democrats in terms of registered voters late last year.

Seriously, why did Obama kill this?

Because he simply wanted to use the Democratic Party to get himself elected rather than others.

I'm not sure if Democrats will ever recover electorally from the damage Obama inflicted upon them downballot and upon their party infrastructure.

His Presidency basically did what Eisenhower did to Republicans in the 1950s, make them pretty much a minor party below the Presidency.

The worst part is that he cost Dems Scalia’s Supreme Court seat due to Dems doing so poorly in the 2010 and 2014 senate elections.

That was Clinton lmao

Dems doing a little better in 2010 and 2014 and winning four more Senate seats (IL and PA in 2010 and AK and CO in 2014) would have made Clinton losing moot for purposes of replacing Scalia.  Anyway, had Republicans held the senate in 2016 (Feingold ran well behind Clinton in the tipping point state for control), they were going to hold Scalia’s seat open until the next Republican President.

[Schiff for Senate]

I mean that tweet is kinda funny

Yeah, and the GOP shouldn't talk about cringey jokes when Kev McCarthy's 'sense of humour' is wanting to smack Pelosi with the speaker's gavel, and Paul Gosar's was to slay AOC. Not saying that it makes Fried's comment any more dignified or funny, but...it seems wrong to criticize the Florida Democrats for something the GOP is known to specialize in (namely, behaving undignified and insulting when it comes to political opponents).

[kwabbit]

I don't think they're particularly incompetent. It seems as though many people just expect Cubans to become 70 % Democratic because they are Hispanic, ignoring the rather unique socioeconomic and cultural factors that lead to Cubans being so Republican in the first place. When you stop looking at Florida Hispanics as just wayward Democrats, Florida's partisanship makes much more sense. The state doesn't have an especially high Black population, its White population isn't educated, and is disproportionately elderly. Seems like a lean R state to me.

[有爭議嘅領土 of The Figgis Agency]

I don't think they're particularly incompetent. It seems as though many people just expect Cubans to become 70 % Democratic because they are Hispanic, ignoring the rather unique socioeconomic and cultural factors that lead to Cubans being so Republican in the first place. When you stop looking at Florida Hispanics as just wayward Democrats, Florida's partisanship makes much more sense. The state doesn't have an especially high Black population, its White population isn't educated, and is disproportionately elderly. Seems like a lean R state to me.

This, although part of the perceived surprise/disappointment from Dems about Florida has to do with non-Cuban Latinos (mostly Puerto Ricans throughout the state but also Venezuelans and Haitians in South Florida). There was some discussion on here of the role WhatsApp and QAnon-style conspiracy theories played with R gains among the Puerto Rican community.

[S019]

Hot take here, but FL-GOV 2022 is absolutely winnable, but yes Fried's campaigning is awful, and I'd much rather Crist be nominated. Anyways, I seriously hope they don't give up on the state, for one, it's basically impossible for me to see a D Senate majority after 2024 where they don't win Florida in at least one of 2022/2024, given Dems are basically guaranteed 3 losses on that map (MT, WV, OH). Democrats should absolutely be campaigning among the Cuban community more, Biden's Hispanic outreach was a total disaster and we saw the result of that. Of course too many Democrats have just let all of the close calls in Florida convince them that it's fools gold or something, which is of course, very stupid strategy. Anyways, here's to hoping that DeSantis is hated enough by Democratic donors that Crist (or god forbid Fried) have the millions that they'll need to compete in this race.