Russia-Ukraine war and related tensions Megathread

[Hindsight was 2020]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/08/22/ukraines-army-is-running-out-of-men-to-recruit/

"Ukraine’s army is running out of men to recruit, and time to win"
"Victory may be in sight for Vladimir Putin"

Your cope is quite obvious lol

[oldtimer]

Either Ukraine has such a good intelligence network inside Russia they placed a bomb on Prigozhin's personal plane at an airport in Moscow without getting noticed/caught or Putin (probably the FSB, specifically) did it. I know which one I'd bet did it:

https://twitter.com/Faytuks/status/1694403110892916744?s=20

You know America should offer all those russians an opportunity to defect before they are murdered by Putin.

They all know that they will probably be next at some point when their services are no longer needed by the "great dictator".

Make the war against Putin instead of Russia, and they will all switch to your side.

[jaichind]

Not a surprise.  Putin does not sound like someone you can betray without paying a price.  In this case the ultimate price. 

[certified hummus supporter 🇵🇸🤝🇺🇸🤝🇺🇦]

Sources tell me Prigozhin had information that would've lead to the arrest of Hillary Clinton

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Dmitry Utkin was reportedly also on board meaning the Russians finally actually did kill a Nazi.

[oldtimer]

Not a surprise.  Putin does not sound like someone you can betray without paying a price.  In this case the ultimate price. 

Putin doesn't even reward those who do a good job, he purges them.

Which means you, Jaichind, might be next.

You should probably defect :

[John Dule]

I think the real problem here is the conspiracy theorists who will predictably question the official story without evidence. My thoughts go out to Putin at this time— losing one friend is hard enough, but he just seems to suffer tragedy after tragedy.

[PSOL]

Where’s troshev? He’s the last of the Wagner trio for there to be no information on him.

[Lykaon]

I’m on vacation this week but damn did this just make my week!! May Prigozhin and Utkin burn for all eternity. Atleast they get to see Stalin when they get to hell. The vatnik cope and seethe is going to be hilarious today.

I wonder who’s next?
Surovikin? Lukashenko?

[Hindsight was 2020]

Sources tell me Prigozhin had information that would've lead to the arrest of Hillary Clinton

Leaked Hillary Clinton emails show NATO had Prigozhin killed to stop the formation of a United States of Africa

[Hindsight was 2020]

[pppolitics]

https://metro.co.uk/2023/08/23/ten-killed-in-moscow-jet-crash-with-wagner-leader-on-passenger-list-19385966/

Russia’s civilian aviation regulator, Rosaviatsia, said he was on the passengers list, but it was not immediately clear if Prigozhin had actually boarded the flight.

So he is probably not dead.

[2016]

Wagner Telegram Channels say Russian Air Defense BUK Missile shut down Prigozhins Plane. Missile Fragments have been found near Crash Site.

[Storr]

https://metro.co.uk/2023/08/23/ten-killed-in-moscow-jet-crash-with-wagner-leader-on-passenger-list-19385966/

Russia’s civilian aviation regulator, Rosaviatsia, said he was on the passengers list, but it was not immediately clear if Prigozhin had actually boarded the flight.

So he is probably not dead.

He's dead:

https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1694429759634039267?s=20

[Hindsight was 2020]

https://twitter.com/faytuks/status/1694431127459520569

[2016]

Since Prigozhin wanted Shoigu out I wouldn't be surprised if Shoigu gave the Authority to shut down the plane.

[Hindsight was 2020]

Not to get lost in the shuffle but (even though it happened two days ago) we officially have a Robotyne liberation confirmation
https://twitter.com/noelreports/status/1694423626504659113?s=12

[oldtimer]

Since Prigozhin wanted Shoigu out I wouldn't be surprised if Shoigu gave the Authority to shut down the plane.

Something like that in a Dictatorship doesn't happen unless the Dictator gives the direct order.

Though there is the assasination of Fritz Todt by Goering in 1942, but that was a bomb not the direct use of the military.  

[2016]

Since Prigozhin wanted Shoigu out I wouldn't be surprised if Shoigu gave the Authority to shut down the plane.

Something like that in a Dictatorship doesn't happen unless the Dictator gives the direct order.

Though there is the assasination of Fritz Todt by Goering in 1942, but that was a bomb not the direct use of the military.  

CNN's Jim Sciutto says Satellite Imagery obtained shows Plane hit by BUK Missile likely damaging one of the Aircrafts Wings. As the plane fell down only one wing can be seen.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

I’m on vacation this week but damn did this just make my week!! May Prigozhin and Utkin burn for all eternity. Atleast they get to see Stalin when they get to hell. The vatnik cope and seethe is going to be hilarious today.

jaichind's real-time spiral into epistemic closure is an instant classic.

[Florida Man for Crime]

They are sending their best:

https://www.twitter.com/timothydsnyder/status/1694468840296481272

So the Russian officer (Girkin) who started the Donbas war in 2014 is in jail, the only Russian general to carry out a successful maneuver in 2022 (Surovikin) has been relieved of duty, and the only Russian commander to take a city in 2023 (Prigozhin) has been murdered.

But where exactly are they sending them? To prison and to the graveyard.

[TiltsAreUnderrated]

"About that ammunition you asked for..."

[2952-0-0]

https://twitter.com/russophileLs/status/1694415816106692709?t=g-2_TrVa9ml-_zyW2N...

[Kahane's Grave Is A Gender-Neutral Bathroom]

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Assuming Prigozhin is dead (maybe a 90%, 95% thing) it's a quicker death than I expected for him.