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« Reply #25 on: November 07, 2021, 02:47:26 PM »

eventually saying that healthy food choices should be practiced is going to be "propaganda" because it'll be related to climate change or something

People got mad about Cookie Monster saying cookies were a “sometimes food”.
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« Reply #26 on: November 07, 2021, 02:49:16 PM »

Ken Klippenstein lost all credibility when he started feuding with Michael Tracey, Glenn Greenwald, Aaron Mate, and Jimmy Dore. He used to be a good analyst, shame he bought into the Russiahoax.
He lost all credibility by feuding with the four most insufferable douchebags on Twitter? LOL.

In BTRD-land...people that are more often right than not are "insufferable". Truth hurts.

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These are the people who are "usually right?"
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« Reply #27 on: November 07, 2021, 02:59:51 PM »

Ken Klippenstein lost all credibility when he started feuding with Michael Tracey, Glenn Greenwald, Aaron Mate, and Jimmy Dore. He used to be a good analyst, shame he bought into the Russiahoax.
He lost all credibility by feuding with the four most insufferable douchebags on Twitter? LOL.

In BTRD-land...people that are more often right than not are "insufferable". Truth hurts.
Remember when those folks tried to argue that the Mueller Report completely and totally exonerated Trump based only on Bill Barr's summary?
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« Reply #28 on: November 07, 2021, 03:05:21 PM »

More seems like a dogwhistle to pedophiles if nothing else. Kids under 13 shouldn't be on twitter.
What is this even supposed to mean..?
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« Reply #29 on: November 07, 2021, 03:40:18 PM »

Something about America that's very funny and sad is that all our political ideologues really care about is mass media entertainment. Back in the day (probably still today as well) there were many conferences where fat conservatives would get together and dissect Harry Potter scene-by-scene or play Led Zeppelin backwards and then talk about how evil it was. The left does it too where they compare the skin color of everybody onscreen or obsess over offhand comments made by artists. These people need to get real jobs.
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« Reply #30 on: November 07, 2021, 04:58:47 PM »

Big Bird and Trans People.  You wanna trigger the right wing?  Go with either one or if you can, both.
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« Reply #31 on: November 07, 2021, 05:09:48 PM »

Big Bird and Trans People.  You wanna trigger the right wing?  Go with either one or if you can, both.
Trans people are fine. Big Bird is a symbol of American paternalism.
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« Reply #32 on: November 07, 2021, 05:42:07 PM »

eventually saying that healthy food choices should be practiced is going to be "propaganda" because it'll be related to climate change or something

Kids get to make some food choices.  They get to choose, to some degree, between fruit and a Hostess twinkie at lunch.  They are given allowances to get things at a store. 

What foods are healthy and what foods are not is, for the most part, accepted science.  The remedies for Climate Change are political decisions, and it is not true to say that the science is "settled" on that issue.

The COVID-19 vaccine for 5-11 year olds is none of that.

I did not know it was possible for a person to be THAT wilfully ignorant, but whatever. Florida gonna Florida.
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« Reply #33 on: November 07, 2021, 06:39:36 PM »

Sesame Street is produced, in part, by our tax dollars, and aired through public television.  Parents are the arbiters of their children's best interest, and this includes medical decisions.  It is not the role of the government to fund money to produce propaganda in the name of "educational television" to cause children in elementary school to believe that they should be vaccinated, and (implicitly) that their parents are "wrong" in not having them vaccinated.  That is not the role of government.  I know that the Soviet government and Nazi Germany lionized children who snitched on their parents for thoughtcrime, but this is still America, and our tax monies should not be used to undermine the status of parents as the arbiters of their children's best medical interest.

This isn't an advocacy for parents being the final arbiters in things such as genital mutilation or not providing medical treatment for inoperable cancer, but the COVID-19 vaccine being administered to a 5-11 year old is not that kind of decision.  Nor is a 5-11 year old child capable of making that sort of decision.  These sort of things are propaganda aimed at children.  That's not OK on the taxpayer's dime.  The idea that vaccinating 5-11 year old children against COVID-19 is the best course of action for such children is far from settled science at this point.



Fuzzy, with all due respect, this statement is coming from the official Big Bird account on Twitter and not Big Bird saying that on T.V. I don't expect many children who watch Sesame Street regularly to be active on Twitter.
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« Reply #34 on: November 07, 2021, 06:42:23 PM »

Welp there go the suburbrons:

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« Reply #35 on: November 07, 2021, 06:44:43 PM »

Big Bird and Trans People.  You wanna trigger the right wing?  Go with either one or if you can, both.
Trans people are fine. Big Bird is a symbol of American paternalism.

So you aren't exactly a big fan of PBS, I take it?
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« Reply #36 on: November 07, 2021, 06:50:47 PM »

Big Bird and Trans People.  You wanna trigger the right wing?  Go with either one or if you can, both.
Trans people are fine. Big Bird is a symbol of American paternalism.

So you aren't exactly a big fan of PBS, I take it?
I don't watch TV.
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« Reply #37 on: November 07, 2021, 08:07:19 PM »

Sesame Street is produced, in part, by our tax dollars, and aired through public television.  Parents are the arbiters of their children's best interest, and this includes medical decisions.  It is not the role of the government to fund money to produce propaganda in the name of "educational television" to cause children in elementary school to believe that they should be vaccinated, and (implicitly) that their parents are "wrong" in not having them vaccinated.  That is not the role of government.  I know that the Soviet government and Nazi Germany lionized children who snitched on their parents for thoughtcrime, but this is still America, and our tax monies should not be used to undermine the status of parents as the arbiters of their children's best medical interest.

This isn't an advocacy for parents being the final arbiters in things such as genital mutilation or not providing medical treatment for inoperable cancer, but the COVID-19 vaccine being administered to a 5-11 year old is not that kind of decision.  Nor is a 5-11 year old child capable of making that sort of decision.  These sort of things are propaganda aimed at children.  That's not OK on the taxpayer's dime.  The idea that vaccinating 5-11 year old children against COVID-19 is the best course of action for such children is far from settled science at this point.



Well, "Big Bird" was at no point literally advocating for 5-11 year olds to be vaccinated. The message was that COVID vaccinations are good and necessary, which according to the scientific consensus happens to be an objective fact. There's nothing bad about teaching children the scientific consensus, unless you're advocating for the parents' "freedom" - even if they don't hold a scientific degree themselves - to decide what the scientific consensus is.
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« Reply #38 on: November 07, 2021, 09:45:18 PM »

Helicopter parents are so out-of-control that they probably are opposed to anti-bullying messages in kids shows. After all, it's up to the parents to instill their values.
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« Reply #39 on: November 07, 2021, 10:15:35 PM »

More seems like a dogwhistle to pedophiles if nothing else. Kids under 13 shouldn't be on twitter.
What is this even supposed to mean..?

Big Bird isn't meant to appeal to normal adults; kids under 13 shouldn't be on twitter (because of TOS and if you're a good parent).  So who does that leave?
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« Reply #40 on: November 07, 2021, 11:14:46 PM »

Sesame Street is produced, in part, by our tax dollars, and aired through public television.  Parents are the arbiters of their children's best interest, and this includes medical decisions.  It is not the role of the government to fund money to produce propaganda in the name of "educational television" to cause children in elementary school to believe that they should be vaccinated, and (implicitly) that their parents are "wrong" in not having them vaccinated.  That is not the role of government.  I know that the Soviet government and Nazi Germany lionized children who snitched on their parents for thoughtcrime, but this is still America, and our tax monies should not be used to undermine the status of parents as the arbiters of their children's best medical interest.

This isn't an advocacy for parents being the final arbiters in things such as genital mutilation or not providing medical treatment for inoperable cancer, but the COVID-19 vaccine being administered to a 5-11 year old is not that kind of decision.  Nor is a 5-11 year old child capable of making that sort of decision.  These sort of things are propaganda aimed at children.  That's not OK on the taxpayer's dime.  The idea that vaccinating 5-11 year old children against COVID-19 is the best course of action for such children is far from settled science at this point.



Utter, unmitigated BS, and a direct assault on the children of our country. (I.e. exactly what I've come to expect from all so-called "Republicans".)

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/planning/children.html

The "Republican Party" ought to be destroyed utterly.

The CDC is thoroughly politicized.

Ranting for paragraphs doesn't change reality. Your position on vaccinations for eligible children is nothing but dangerous BS. And Republican know that - you just don't care.
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« Reply #41 on: November 07, 2021, 11:15:01 PM »

pretty sure Big Bird did not in fact get vaccinated.   gonna have to see some proof.  USDA has not approved for avian use, afaik.
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« Reply #42 on: November 07, 2021, 11:21:09 PM »


Thank you for resurfacing this. One of the greatest ads of all time
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« Reply #43 on: November 07, 2021, 11:38:56 PM »

Sesame Street is produced, in part, by our tax dollars, and aired through public television.  Parents are the arbiters of their children's best interest, and this includes medical decisions.  It is not the role of the government to fund money to produce propaganda in the name of "educational television" to cause children in elementary school to believe that they should be vaccinated, and (implicitly) that their parents are "wrong" in not having them vaccinated.  That is not the role of government.  I know that the Soviet government and Nazi Germany lionized children who snitched on their parents for thoughtcrime, but this is still America, and our tax monies should not be used to undermine the status of parents as the arbiters of their children's best medical interest.

This isn't an advocacy for parents being the final arbiters in things such as genital mutilation or not providing medical treatment for inoperable cancer, but the COVID-19 vaccine being administered to a 5-11 year old is not that kind of decision.  Nor is a 5-11 year old child capable of making that sort of decision.  These sort of things are propaganda aimed at children.  That's not OK on the taxpayer's dime.  The idea that vaccinating 5-11 year old children against COVID-19 is the best course of action for such children is far from settled science at this point.



Utter, unmitigated BS, and a direct assault on the children of our country. (I.e. exactly what I've come to expect from all so-called "Republicans".)

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/planning/children.html

The "Republican Party" ought to be destroyed utterly.

The CDC is thoroughly politicized.

Ranting for paragraphs doesn't change reality. Your position on vaccinations for eligible children is nothing but dangerous BS. And Republican know that - you just don't care.

The highlighted portion is a lesson you haven't learn.  Don't ask me.  Ask your peers that actually agree with you.
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« Reply #44 on: November 07, 2021, 11:55:44 PM »

Did he get his...

...bird flu shot, too?
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« Reply #45 on: November 08, 2021, 12:19:34 AM »

It's disgusting that Republicans think getting the Covid-19 vaccine is controversial. The government cannot compel every eligible American to get it. However, for the vast, vast, vast majority of eligible people anywhere in the world, it is a very obvious choice that they should get the vaccine, both for their own health and actually as a duty to the rest of their community.
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« Reply #46 on: November 08, 2021, 12:37:21 AM »

More seems like a dogwhistle to pedophiles if nothing else. Kids under 13 shouldn't be on twitter.
What is this even supposed to mean..?

Big Bird isn't meant to appeal to normal adults; kids under 13 shouldn't be on twitter (because of TOS and if you're a good parent).  So who does that leave?

You have to be kidding me... somehow a child's show being on twitter means pedophiles are involved? Is Peppa Pig's twitter: https://twitter.com/peppapig (or any thing that falls in this category) a dogwhistle for pedophilia?

There are plenty of parents who give their kids under 13 limited access to Twitter (or they can have "shared accounts" for cartoons/kids shows); regardless if you think this is inappropriate,  the existence of these accounts is just an obvious low-cost thing to increase marketing and publicity.
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« Reply #47 on: November 08, 2021, 12:42:00 AM »

Sesame Street is produced, in part, by our tax dollars, and aired through public television.  Parents are the arbiters of their children's best interest, and this includes medical decisions.  It is not the role of the government to fund money to produce propaganda in the name of "educational television" to cause children in elementary school to believe that they should be vaccinated, and (implicitly) that their parents are "wrong" in not having them vaccinated.  That is not the role of government.  I know that the Soviet government and Nazi Germany lionized children who snitched on their parents for thoughtcrime, but this is still America, and our tax monies should not be used to undermine the status of parents as the arbiters of their children's best medical interest.

This isn't an advocacy for parents being the final arbiters in things such as genital mutilation or not providing medical treatment for inoperable cancer, but the COVID-19 vaccine being administered to a 5-11 year old is not that kind of decision.  Nor is a 5-11 year old child capable of making that sort of decision.  These sort of things are propaganda aimed at children.  That's not OK on the taxpayer's dime.  The idea that vaccinating 5-11 year old children against COVID-19 is the best course of action for such children is far from settled science at this point.



It's not propaganda.  If you don't get the vaccine, and you don't have some medical condition that prevents you from getting it, you are an idiot.  And before you get all pearl clutching about that, let me just confirm, yes, I am indeed specifically calling you an idiot if you don't believe in vaccination.
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« Reply #48 on: November 08, 2021, 12:48:59 AM »
« Edited: November 08, 2021, 01:01:06 AM by JD Vance for Senate »

I think the whole pro/anti-vax movement is beyond ridiculous. People should make their own decision and not force people to either get it or not. If you want to get vaccinated, that's fine. If not it's your choice, just like anything in life along with the rewards/consequences that come with them. I disagree with mandates/mandate bans as well as people getting fired for not getting vaccinated, especially considering our economy was already suffering economically/medically and the healthcare workers fired were heroes during the peak of the pandemic. However don't confuse that with spreading misinformation, that is something that should at least be investigated if not reprimanded but there should be a way to tell where the information is coming from. What Biden did in Florida when he refused to give DeSantis antibodies was politically charged and unacceptable.
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« Reply #49 on: November 08, 2021, 01:52:13 AM »

I think the whole pro/anti-vax movement is beyond ridiculous. People should make their own decision and not force people to either get it or not. If you want to get vaccinated, that's fine. If not it's your choice, just like anything in life along with the rewards/consequences that come with them. I disagree with mandates/mandate bans as well as people getting fired for not getting vaccinated, especially considering our economy was already suffering economically/medically and the healthcare workers fired were heroes during the peak of the pandemic. However don't confuse that with spreading misinformation, that is something that should at least be investigated if not reprimanded but there should be a way to tell where the information is coming from. What Biden did in Florida when he refused to give DeSantis antibodies was politically charged and unacceptable.

Refusing vaccines (save for conditions where they're contraindicated) is like playing Russian Roulette. Except that you're not only pointing the gun at your own head, you're also taking turns pointing it randomly at other people, or other people's homes. If someone wandered around town taking random potshots at buildings (and occasionally spinning the chamber on their mostly-empty revolver before pointing it at themselves and pulling the trigger) we would consider them dangerous and insane. I don't see any reason to consider anti-vaxxers differently,  saving that finding them all mentally incompetent simply isn't practical due to problems of scale.
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