Who’s ideas (and subsequent branch-off ideas developed by others) have done more harm?

[TheReckoning]

?

[John Dule]

Jesus has done more harm but also much more good.

[Ancestral Republican]

Their ideas were very similar and thus should not be contrasted.

[PSOL]

Jesus’s teachings expired after the council of Nicaea, Marxism is still the logical conclusion for human society as of yet with the current research.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Jesus’s teachings expired after the council of Nicaea, Marxism is still the logical conclusion for human society as of yet with the current research.

What’s “the current research”?

[Secretary of State Liberal Hack]

Jesus’s teachings expired after the council of Nicaea, Marxism is still the logical conclusion for human society as of yet with the current research.

What’s “the current research”?

The works of Marx. Marxism trying to treat itself as an objective science  of how societies progress never stops being hilarious.

[beaver2.0]

I'd say Christ, which is not a judgement on those ideas, but the fact that Christianity has been dominant in a region for 1500 years and a significant chunk of western thought descends from Christianity, much of what has gone on in Europe and regions it has touched can be ascribed to perverted forms of Christ's teachings.

If Marx had been born 2000 years ago I would probably have said him by default.

[Alben Barkley]

Jesus’s teachings expired after the council of Nicaea, Marxism is still the logical conclusion for human society as of yet with the current research.

What’s “the current research”?

The works of Marx. Marxism trying to treat itself as an objective science  of how societies progress never stops being hilarious.

“Marxism is obviously the only way. Don’t believe me? Read Marx!”

It really is religious levels of circular reasoning.

[certified hummus supporter 🇵🇸🤝🇺🇸🤝🇺🇦]

Jesus’s teachings expired after the council of Nicaea, Marxism is still the logical conclusion for human society as of yet with the current research.

What’s “the current research”?

The works of Marx. Marxism trying to treat itself as an objective science  of how societies progress never stops being hilarious.

“Marxism is obviously the only way. Don’t believe me? Read Marx!”

It really is religious levels of circular reasoning.

"There is no god but Marx and PSOL is his messenger"

obvious /s

[PSOL]

Jesus’s teachings expired after the council of Nicaea, Marxism is still the logical conclusion for human society as of yet with the current research.

What’s “the current research”?

The works of Marx. Marxism trying to treat itself as an objective science  of how societies progress never stops being hilarious.

Well no, Marxism expands further than the work of Marx, with an examination and testing of society within a class context. Marxism, or hierarchal-based study, expands into other distinct, mainly social sciences such as Economics, Anthropology, Sociology, anthropology, etc.

In trying to break hierarchal structures via a given method of establishing a society on the road to socialism/communism through the methods of power takeover and usage by Lenin, Sankara, Trotsky, Mao, and others—yeah, Communism works just fine and really frees people from crappy working conditions, not just with those in a communist party-controlled nation but through major concessions by societies to the lowest rungs to avoid having more social strife. The 8-hour workday, OSHA, and other concessions in the US were brought out of fear and compromise.

Marxism isn’t a religion, as theoretical and methodical contributions can be thrown out if they do not “work”. Very few people in the modern scene take Marx’s downright patronizing suggestion that the spread of liberal capitalism then and now is a good idea, or that those in more “hierarchal” states or in primitive condition ultimately benefit from capitalist imperialism. Lenin’s postulations on Imperialism, along with work by Frantz Fanon, provides a better critique.

Meanwhile Jesus’s teachings say that one is cattle to the shepherd and that questioning things leads to punishment from the dogma. How the two are comparable is deliberately obsfucating things.

Edit: haha

[PSOL]

Jesus’s teachings expired after the council of Nicaea, Marxism is still the logical conclusion for human society as of yet with the current research.

What’s “the current research”?

Outside of this, there are several great scientists I recommend; Richard Wolfe, Michael Parenti, Paul Cockshott, Michael Roberts, and Anwar Shaikh

[TheReckoning]

Their ideas were very similar and thus should not be contrasted.

A key part of Marxism is the rejection of anything beyond the physical, so no, their ideas were not “very similar”.

[Ancestral Republican]

Their ideas were very similar and thus should not be contrasted.

A key part of Marxism is the rejection of anything beyond the physical, so no, their ideas were not “very similar”.

Congrats on watching a PragerU video, but no you don't have a solid grasp on either concept.

[PSOL]

Their ideas were very similar and thus should not be contrasted.

A key part of Marxism is the rejection of anything beyond the physical, so no, their ideas were not “very similar”.

Congrats on watching a PragerU video, but no you don't have a solid grasp on either concept.

There are conflicting reports on the emphasis of materialism in Early Christianity, but what can be stated for a fact is that Marxism relies on dialectical materialism to view history and society in a scientific manner. Such a distinction sets it apart from utopian and religious groupings with similar ideas on how to ultimately govern society and interaction with one another.

There’s another major distinction, Marxism as a science and not applied policy or a party program does not try to make emotional appeals or tell what is morally right, only what “is”. Saying this, both Marx and Jesus personally seem like very compassionate dudes with a want to help people, yet in one strand there is clear deification done by the author or the compatriots around them caused by flaws in the worldview paradigm. Marxism is more factual and logical by at least including this off the bat, therefore it isn’t a religion.

[John Dule]

Jesus’s teachings expired after the council of Nicaea, Marxism is still the logical conclusion for human society as of yet with the current research.

What’s “the current research”?

Outside of this, there are several great scientists I recommend; Richard Wolfe, Michael Parenti, Paul Cockshott, Michael Roberts, and Anwar Shaikh

Sorry, but in this class we require you to put your arguments in your own words. I'm afraid you and Kingpoleon will have to sit in the special learning section.

[_.]

Shows how laughably unrepresentative Atlas is

You know if this poll was taken IRL 99% of Non-Chinese people would choose Marx

[PSOL]

Jesus’s teachings expired after the council of Nicaea, Marxism is still the logical conclusion for human society as of yet with the current research.

What’s “the current research”?

Outside of this, there are several great scientists I recommend; Richard Wolfe, Michael Parenti, Paul Cockshott, Michael Roberts, and Anwar Shaikh

Sorry, but in this class we require you to put your arguments in your own words. I'm afraid you and Kingpoleon will have to sit in the special learning section.

I’ll give a breakdown when I have time, but fr, it’s not like there aren’t Marxist academic journals and debate on the central questions of the foundation and observation of Marxism.

Shows how laughably unrepresentative Atlas is

You know if this poll was taken IRL 99% of Non-Chinese people would choose Marx

Well no ••••, most people don’t read the underpinnings of capitalist and anti-rentier John Smith, why would they read the opposite when fed all this religious capitalist realism.

Why is the religious dogmas of “utility”, an emotional argument, used to prop up the whole notion of property and exploitation, of servitude and sending of surplus upwards?

[CEO Mindset]

jesus obviously. you got islam, liberal humanism and communism as spinoffs from christianity. also alot of horrible attitudes re: lgbt, sexuality in general, vice, etc

[CumbrianLefty]

I mean, its just simple verifiable truth that more people have been killed in the name of "Christianity" than anything else ever - yes that is partly down to it having been around for so long, and still less does it mean that all or indeed most Christians are/have been bad people. But them's the facts.

[SWE]

Because of Jesus, I had to wake up early to go to church every Sunday until I was a teenager. Nothing Marx did has negatively impacted my life. Easy choice