Bigger debacle for a president: Trump ACA repeal attempt(2017) or Biden Afghanistan withdrawal(2021)

[OSR stands with Israel]

Which debacle was worse for a president: Trump failed ACA repeal or Biden botched Afghanistan withdrawal.

[President Johnson]

Hardly comparable. Trump failed at something he promised while Joe Biden is just following through what he promised, despite short term political heat. I'm glad he stood his ground despite massive pressure, though the entire situation should have been better handled by all NATO members. Furthermore, it must evaluated why Intel services didn't see the disaster coming so fast.

The media fallout is definitely worse for Biden. The failure to repeal Obamacare was publicly more celebrated.

[Geoffrey Howe]

Well, foreign policy is very much a presidential affair and directly concerns the standing of the nation in a way that really defines a President. Healthcare, although very important, is more a legislative and partisan issue.

[7,052,770]

Push. Nobody cares about repealing the ACA anymore, and nobody's going to care about Afghanistan before long. Neither will be viewed as presidential failures by future historians.

[Mr. Smith]

The repeal was completely optional, purely partisan, and very much in Trump's control...and he utterly failed despite that. Domestic policy has so much freedom and power for a President

Afghanistan withdrawal had no such luxuries and foreign policy requires far more continuity, and Trump already began the process.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Push. Nobody cares about repealing the ACA anymore, and nobody's going to care about Afghanistan before long. Neither will be viewed as presidential failures by future historians.

I don’t think the GOP loses the house in 2018 without that botched repeal

[Suburbia]

Failed ACA replacement.

While the tragedy of 10+ soldiers dying is sad, EVERY American would have been affected by the repeal of Obamacare.

You would have seen a revolution on the streets

[7,052,770]

Push. Nobody cares about repealing the ACA anymore, and nobody's going to care about Afghanistan before long. Neither will be viewed as presidential failures by future historians.

I don’t think the GOP loses the house in 2018 without that botched repeal

A successful repeal means they lose the Senate too.

[Bootes Void]

I remember people celebrating Trump failed to pass ACA repeal

[GeneralMacArthur]

The Afghanistan withdrawal isn't a failure.  It's been a remarkable success.  We've gotten over 100,000 people out of a hostile nation in ten days.

The terrorist attack today is kind of independent of the whole affair.  If we hadn't withdrawn from Afghanistan, this terror attack would still have happened, and we'd still be stuck there and vulnerable to more like it every week from now through eternity, just like we were before.

[parochial boy]

History is going to remember the US losing the war in Afghanistan - especially given the global and geopolitical context in which it happened. It's not really going to remember legislation that was never passed.

[Ferguson97]

The Afghanistan withdrawal wasn’t a failure, so Trump’s failed repeal by default.

[Person Man]

Obviously the ACA repeal because at that point, trying to repeal the ACA would be the same as trying to privatize social security/Medicate or to repeal TANF or Medicaid.

Afghanistan is done. This isn't like Iran, Vietnam, or Somalia. We got what we came for and though the Taliban survived us, it doesn't appear that they will ultimately survive.

[THG]

The poor execution of the Afghanistan widthdrawal is the most disgraceful thing I’ve witnessed from American leadership.

[SWE]

The Afghanistan withdrawal was a good thing so option 1 by default

[Former President tack50]

Wouldn't the fact that ACA repeal failed actually be a blessing in disguise for Trump? He'd be even more unpopular had it succeeded?