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« Reply #350 on: October 13, 2021, 09:39:54 AM »

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« Reply #351 on: October 14, 2021, 08:48:33 AM »
« Edited: October 14, 2021, 08:53:59 AM by Antifacist Ghost of Ruin »



This is the treason version of going easy on a young well-off white male rapist because they're "from a good family" or because a it would "destroy their life" at a "good college".

I'm increasingly thinking that how awful Republicans are is ultimately irrelevant to the outcome: our system of government is too broken to be able survive.
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« Reply #352 on: October 19, 2021, 06:59:14 PM »

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« Reply #353 on: October 19, 2021, 09:17:49 PM »


Rwers love to say that all liberals do is call them racist but quite frankly I don’t know how one could objectively look at how Trump and certain rw posters here have reacted to what happened Ashlii Babbitt verses their reaction to the numerous cases involving unarmed black people killed by cops (for doing a hell of a lot less than Ashlii Babbitt did) and not come way with the impression that these people are in fact racist?

She was also shot by a black cop. A black man killing their white female MAGA martyr makes it much worse to the racist MAGAs.
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« Reply #354 on: October 22, 2021, 03:45:32 PM »

Jim Banks is apparently running a shadow January 6, Commission.

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During yesterday's House debate on whether to hold Steve Bannon in contempt of Congress, Wyoming Rep. Liz Cheney highlighted an unexpected new controversy about one of her Republican colleagues, Rep. Jim Banks of Indiana. As The Hill reported:

Rep. Jim Banks (R-Ill.) sent numerous letters claiming to be the ranking member of the House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol, the committee's Vice Chair Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) revealed Thursday.

Cheney, an actual member of the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack, entered into the record this written correspondence in which Banks identifies himself as the "ranking member" of the panel in official correspondence to Interior Secretary Deb Haaland. (For those unfamiliar with the phrasing, a "ranking member" is the top member from the minority party on a committee.)

The problem, of course, is that Banks isn't the ranking member on the Jan. 6 committee. In fact, he's not on the committee at all.

Nevertheless, the Hoosier congressman asked the Interior secretary to provide him with all of the information the cabinet agency is providing to the actual committee members. "Pursuant to the rules of the House of Representatives, the minority party retains rights to the same information that is provided to the majority party," Banks wrote.

The Daily Beast and Politico reported separately that Banks "sent similarly signed letters to many other agencies — the same ones the Capitol riot committee sent its own info requests to."

The Daily Beast's piece added, "The group of federal agencies that Banks has contacted includes the Department of Justice, the Department of Defense, and the Department of Homeland Security — among others. And one of those sources said that recipients also included social media companies, like Facebook, which had also been targets of extensive evidence requests."
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« Reply #355 on: October 25, 2021, 05:31:15 PM »

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« Reply #356 on: October 26, 2021, 02:04:34 PM »

Joe Biden again refuses to grant executive privilige over January 6 records that Trump wanted.

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« Reply #357 on: October 26, 2021, 11:55:46 PM »

Better late than never, I suppose:

Capitol-riot defendant calls for Trump to be 'ostracized from any political future' and says January 6 was a 'disgrace'
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« Reply #358 on: October 27, 2021, 12:03:33 AM »

No pardon for you!
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« Reply #359 on: October 28, 2021, 07:38:18 AM »

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« Reply #360 on: October 30, 2021, 02:10:23 PM »

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Washington Post: Trump lawyer John Eastman blamed Pence for January 6 violence by refusing to block 2020 election certification.

https://us.cnn.com/2021/10/30/politics/mike-pence-january-6-john-eastman-trump/index.html


This is just nutty.
Pence follows the rules of his role in the certification process, and because he did not deviate from it (in the traitorous ways trump and his looney lawyers wanted) he somehow gets blamed for the viloence that took place during the January 6th Insurrection.
Can someone explain how trump thought he would get-away with this this lunatic logic?
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« Reply #361 on: October 30, 2021, 03:07:42 PM »

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Washington Post: Trump lawyer John Eastman blamed Pence for January 6 violence by refusing to block 2020 election certification.

https://us.cnn.com/2021/10/30/politics/mike-pence-january-6-john-eastman-trump/index.html


This is just nutty.
Pence follows the rules of his role in the certification process, and because he did not deviate from it (in the traitorous ways trump and his looney lawyers wanted) he somehow gets blamed for the viloence that took place during the January 6th Insurrection.
Can someone explain how trump thought he would get-away with this this lunatic logic?

It's perfectly ration if you put yourself in the place of the traitorous Trump-cult.

By precisely what mechanism traitor Donnie Dumb**** and his treasonous co-conspirators intended to keep him in power we may never know - their reasoning as presented to Pence was already incredibly tortured. Who can guess the exact byzantine depth to which they descended in their desperate madness?

What we do know is that Trump and his traitors known plans focused heavily on Pence's role as President of the Senate and the responsibilities explicitly assigned to that position. We also know that the rioters werespecifically hunting VP Pence, with the avowed intent of executing him.

The more violent and co-ordinated attackers were far-right milita members, whose presence was encouraged and aided by Trump's team and had a close connections Roger Stone, Trump's pardoned ratf***er.

From the above, it seems likely that whatever the precise details of planned justification for Trump's self-coup, they involved the removal of Pence. Either so that he could be replaced by someone that Trump and his fellow coup plotters thought would swing things there way, or so that his absence could be used as an excuse to claim that the electoral vote count had never been properly completed, thus paving the way for some convoluted path of legal self-justification.

So, by not surrendering to Trump's will, Pence "caused" Trump and his co-conspirators to fall back to other coup plans and launch an attack on the Capitol in an effort to block final stage of Biden's formal victory.
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« Reply #362 on: October 30, 2021, 03:58:36 PM »

New January 6 court filings reveal what Trump is trying to keep secret from Congress

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In the Meadows documents alone, there are three handwritten notes about the events of January 6 and two pages listing briefings and telephone calls about the Electoral College certification, the archivist said.

Laster's outline of the documents offers the first glimpse into the paperwork that would reveal goings-on inside the West Wing as Trump supporters gathered in Washington and then overran the US Capitol, disrupting the certification of the 2020 vote.

Trump is also seeking to keep secret 30 pages of his daily schedule, White House visitor logs and call records, Laster wrote. The call logs, schedules and switchboard checklists document "calls to the President and Vice President, all specifically for or encompassing January 6, 2021," Laster said.
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« Reply #363 on: November 04, 2021, 11:02:31 PM »

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A judge sentenced Jenna Ryan, a real estate agent who attended the Capitol riot on January 6th, to 60 days in jail after she tweeted that she was "definitely not going to jail" because she has "blond hair, white skin and a great job."

Watch CNN video here ...
https://us.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/11/04/jenna-ryan-january-6-capitol-riot-jail-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/this-week-in-politics/


LOL.
Ignorant, bigoted ________ goes to jail.
Enjoy your time, and Merry Christmas.
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« Reply #364 on: November 08, 2021, 04:10:54 PM »

January 6 committee issues 6 subpoenas to top Trump campaign associates, including Michael Flynn and John Eastman

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The House select committee investigating the deadly January 6 riot on Capitol Hill announced Monday it is issuing six additional subpoenas to top Trump campaign associates as it continues to seek testimony and documents from key witnesses in the sweeping probe.

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The six subpoenas are going to:

    -Trump 2020 campaign manager William Stepien
    -Former senior adviser to the campaign Jason Miller
    -John Eastman, an attorney who helped craft Trump's argument that the election was stolen
    -Michael Flynn, who was involved in meeting about how the Trump campaign wanted to promote the lie that the election was stolen
    -Angela McCallum, national executive assistant to former President Trump's 2020 reelection campaign
    -Bernard Kerik, who participated in a meeting at the Willard Hotel centered around overturing election results.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/08/politics/january-6-committee-subpoenas/index.html
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« Reply #365 on: November 08, 2021, 04:35:59 PM »

Did any punishment befall Bannon?

I highly doubt these top Trump associates will comply with their subpoenas.
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« Reply #366 on: November 08, 2021, 04:36:55 PM »

Did any punishment befall Bannon?

I highly doubt these top Trump associates will comply with their subpoenas.

Nope. Garland didn't do a thing like the inept wimp he is.
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« Reply #367 on: November 08, 2021, 05:14:10 PM »

There's no way a decision has been made on Bannon already. No matter who was AG, we would still be waiting. 
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« Reply #368 on: November 09, 2021, 08:44:20 AM »

Did any punishment befall Bannon?

I highly doubt these top Trump associates will comply with their subpoenas.

Nope. Garland didn't do a thing like the inept wimp he is.

There's no way a decision has been made on Bannon already. No matter who was AG, we would still be waiting. 

This is correct.  Wayyyyyyyyy to early to tell what Garland will do.
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« Reply #369 on: November 09, 2021, 03:28:20 PM »

January 6 committee issues 10 more subpoenas including to Stephen Miller and Kayleigh McEnany

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The House committee investigating the deadly January 6 riot at the US Capitol announced on Tuesday a new batch of 10 subpoenas to former White House officials under President Donald Trump, as the panel charges ahead in seeking testimony and documents from witnesses relevant to its probe.

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    -Nicholas Luna, former President Donald Trump's personal assistant
    -Molly Michael, Trump's special assistant to the President and Oval Office operations coordinator
    -Ben Williamson, Trump's deputy assistant to the President and senior adviser to then-chief of staff Mark Meadows
    -Christopher Liddell, former Trump White House deputy chief of staff
    -John McEntee, Trump's White House personnel director
    -Keith Kellogg, national security adviser to then-Vice President Mike Pence
    -Kayleigh McEnany, former White House press secretary under Trump
    -Stephen Miller, Trump senior adviser
    -Cassidy Hutchinson, special assistant to the President for legislative affairs
    -Kenneth Klukowski, former senior counsel to Assistant Attorney General Jeffrey Clark.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/09/politics/january-6-subpoenas-stephen-miller/index.html
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« Reply #370 on: November 09, 2021, 04:41:27 PM »

January 6 committee issues 10 more subpoenas including to Stephen Miller and Kayleigh McEnany

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The House committee investigating the deadly January 6 riot at the US Capitol announced on Tuesday a new batch of 10 subpoenas to former White House officials under President Donald Trump, as the panel charges ahead in seeking testimony and documents from witnesses relevant to its probe.

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    -Nicholas Luna, former President Donald Trump's personal assistant
    -Molly Michael, Trump's special assistant to the President and Oval Office operations coordinator
    -Ben Williamson, Trump's deputy assistant to the President and senior adviser to then-chief of staff Mark Meadows
    -Christopher Liddell, former Trump White House deputy chief of staff
    -John McEntee, Trump's White House personnel director
    -Keith Kellogg, national security adviser to then-Vice President Mike Pence
    -Kayleigh McEnany, former White House press secretary under Trump
    -Stephen Miller, Trump senior adviser
    -Cassidy Hutchinson, special assistant to the President for legislative affairs
    -Kenneth Klukowski, former senior counsel to Assistant Attorney General Jeffrey Clark.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/09/politics/january-6-subpoenas-stephen-miller/index.html

Good, but I expect none of them to comply and it will result in an endless battle of lawsuits before a Republican House takes everything back and they get a free pass unless the Garland Justice Departments gets much tougher.
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« Reply #371 on: November 09, 2021, 08:37:47 PM »

Article argues it's a good sign the Bannon decision hasn't happened yet.

Steve Bannon's subpoena case is taking longer than we want it to. That's a good thing.

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At first glance, the case for enforcing the subpoena for Steve Bannon to testify before the Jan. 6 committee seems straightforward. But now, more than two weeks since the House made its referral to the Justice Department, people are starting to wonder what’s taking so long. (After all, some may recall, an indictment was handed up just eight days after the last similar referral from Congress to the Justice Department — the prosecution in 1983 of Rita Lavelle, the former head of the Environmental Protection Agency’s toxic waste programs. The government lost that case.)

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There’s an old saying prosecutors like to repeat to one another: If you shoot at the king, you’d best not miss. Roughly translated, that means don’t indict a suspect before your evidence is in place. The government bears the burden of proof beyond a reasonable doubt, the highest standard of proof we use in our legal system, and to meet that burden, the prosecution must have admissible evidence of guilt. Prosecutors can’t rely on what everyone thinks they know or what people believe. Ensuring they have evidence to establish every element of a crime, even in a matter that seems as self-proving as this one, takes time and effort.

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The basics of preparing to indict, including obtaining evidence the prosecution needs in an admissible form, can take time. Subpoenas have to be authorized, cut and served on people and entities from which prosecutors seek information. It takes time for subpoenaed materials to be returned to the grand jury. While there’s no way to know whether the Justice Department is using grand jury subpoenas to compile evidence in this case, it’s entirely possible. That process can add weeks before prosecutors have the essential evidence they need to indict.

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/steve-bannon-s-subpoena-case-taking-longer-usual-s-good-n1283539
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« Reply #372 on: November 09, 2021, 10:45:17 PM »

Never really thought of Belarus as a haven for asylum-seekers before:

Capitol riot suspect seeking political asylum in Belarus
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« Reply #373 on: November 10, 2021, 06:20:44 AM »

Article argues it's a good sign the Bannon decision hasn't happened yet.

Steve Bannon's subpoena case is taking longer than we want it to. That's a good thing.


https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/steve-bannon-s-subpoena-case-taking-longer-usual-s-good-n1283539

It's an opinion piece.
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« Reply #374 on: November 10, 2021, 07:17:22 AM »



Hope, they let him keep his outfit in the jail  Pacman
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