Is New Hampshire the American Hampshire?

[Conservatopia]

Something tells me they might be similar.

[_.]

In my humble opinion, this is not the case at all. There are many important distinctions to be made between Hampshire and New "Hampshire", and I believe that Oklahoma is a better analogue for Hampshire than New "Hampshire".

First of all, Hampshire has a faster-growing population than New Hampshire. Its annual average population growth rate between 2011 and 2019 was +0.56% (according to citypopulation.de). Oklahoma scored similarly between the 2010 and 2020 U.S. censuses with +0.54%. New "Hampshire", USA, though? It's incredibly stagnant when compared to Hampshire, with +0.45%.

Secondly, when you remove the "e"s from "Hampshire", the county has eight letters. Just like Oklahoma (even if you remove the "e"s)! If you remove the "e"s from "New Hampshire", though, you end up with ten letters and a blank space! Not fitting at all...

Thirdly, Oklahoma and Hampshire are both towards the South-Central regions of their respective countries. New "Hampshire", though, can be found at the North-East of its respective country, in New "England". Sad!

Fourthly, Oklahoma's urbanization rate, at 66.2% as of the 2010 census, is closer to Hampshire proper's urbanization rate of 78.2%. In fact, in the tenths place after the decimal, they both use the numeral "2"! New "Hampshire", though? Not even close. Its urbanization rate was a pathetic 60.3%!

As you can clearly see, there are many differences between New "Hampshire" and Hampshire proper that make them not even worthy of comparison. Oklahoma is much closer. /s if you really couldn't tell

This would've been peak Abdullah had you ended it with a statement like 'but I'll defer to the experts in this area'.

You're correct, it was incredibly presumptuous of me to even pretend I know anything about Hampshire or New "Hampshire", I greatly apologize for that mishap. I've never been to Hampshire or New "Hampshire", so perhaps the above doesn't hold when you go visit the two areas in the flesh. I'll defer to the experts in this area.

You can't deny that the statistics are pretty clear, though../..//.. This is sarcasm

[CumbrianLefty]

As somebody who genuinely doesn't know - *why* is it called New Hampshire?

[Samof94]

As somebody who genuinely doesn't know - *why* is it called New Hampshire?

These threads are getting old. I put one about various cities being flooded.

[CumbrianLefty]

Ah, thought that might be an actual answer to my question. Never mind

[Just the facts]

I guess Fairfield County in Connecticut would be the closest thing to an American Hampshire, with Bridgeport and Stamford standing in for Portsmouth and Southampton.

[Geoffrey Howe]

I guess Fairfield County in Connecticut would be the closest thing to an American Hampshire, with Bridgeport and Stamford standing in for Portsmouth and Southampton.

??

[buritobr]

I couldn't imagine the thread "is Bavarian the German Texas" would become a bomb

[Conservatopia]

As somebody who genuinely doesn't know - *why* is it called New Hampshire?

The history of NH is actually very interesting but the only answer I can find to your question is basically "that's just what they called it".

I do wonder though if Manchester, NH is the American Manchester, UK.  Worth looking into.

[Just the facts]

I guess Fairfield County in Connecticut would be the closest thing to an American Hampshire, with Bridgeport and Stamford standing in for Portsmouth and Southampton.

??

1. It's a county and not a state
2. It's close but not adjacent to New York (London)
3. It's mostly posh and leafy, except for two more working class cities
4. It's conservative, but more in the English sense of the word than in the Bible Belt sense

[Geoffrey Howe]

I guess Fairfield County in Connecticut would be the closest thing to an American Hampshire, with Bridgeport and Stamford standing in for Portsmouth and Southampton.

??

1. It's a county and not a state
2. It's close but not adjacent to New york (London)
3. It's mostly posh and leafy, except for two more working class cities
4. It's conservative, but more in the English sense of the word than in the Bible Belt sense

This could be said of basically any county near London, and Hampshire doesn’t best fit those stereotypes. Anyway, it’s not that close to London.

There isn’t really an equivalent to Fairfield County. It is sui generis.

[Conservatopia]

I guess Fairfield County in Connecticut would be the closest thing to an American Hampshire, with Bridgeport and Stamford standing in for Portsmouth and Southampton.

??

1. It's a county and not a state
2. It's close but not adjacent to New York (London)
3. It's mostly posh and leafy, except for two more working class cities
4. It's conservative, but more in the English sense of the word than in the Bible Belt sense

Have you heard about Norfolk's Turnip Taliban?

[beesley]

Clearly none of you, especially the Americans, know much about Hampshire.

[Tintrlvr]

Clearly none of you, especially the Americans, know much about Hampshire.

Does anyone? Hampshire seems utterly unremarkable in every way.

[beesley]

Clearly none of you, especially the Americans, know much about Hampshire.

Does anyone? Hampshire seems utterly unremarkable in every way.

Thanks. I'll let my neighbours know.

[beesley]

This is not the case at all. There are many important distinctions to be made between Hampshire and New "Hampshire", and I believe that Oklahoma is a better analogue for Hampshire than New "Hampshire".

First of all, Hampshire has a faster-growing population than New Hampshire. Its annual average population growth rate between 2011 and 2019 was +0.56% (according to citypopulation.de). Oklahoma scored similarly between the 2010 and 2020 U.S. censuses with +0.54%. New "Hampshire", USA, though? It's incredibly stagnant when compared to Hampshire, with +0.45%.

Secondly, when you remove the "e"s from "Hampshire", the county has eight letters. Just like Oklahoma (even if you remove the "e"s)! If you remove the "e"s from "New Hampshire", though, you end up with ten letters and a blank space! Not fitting at all...

Thirdly, Oklahoma and Hampshire are both towards the South-Central regions of their respective countries. New "Hampshire", though, can be found at the North-East of its respective country, in New "England". Sad!

Fourthly, Oklahoma's urbanization rate, at 66.2% as of the 2010 census, is closer to Hampshire proper's urbanization rate of 78.2%. In fact, in the tenths place after the decimal, they both use the numeral "2"! New "Hampshire", though? Not even close. Its urbanization rate was a pathetic 60.3%!

As you can clearly see, there are many differences between New "Hampshire" and Hampshire proper that make them not even worthy of comparison. Oklahoma is much closer.

This would've been peak Abdullah had you ended it with a statement like 'but I'll defer to the experts in this area'.

[Just the facts]

I guess Fairfield County in Connecticut would be the closest thing to an American Hampshire, with Bridgeport and Stamford standing in for Portsmouth and Southampton.

??

1. It's a county and not a state
2. It's close but not adjacent to New york (London)
3. It's mostly posh and leafy, except for two more working class cities
4. It's conservative, but more in the English sense of the word than in the Bible Belt sense

This could be said of basically any county near London, and Hampshire doesn’t best fit those stereotypes. Anyway, it’s not that close to London.

There isn’t really an equivalent to Fairfield County. It is sui generis.

Both coastal counties. Both cities also coastal and lean Labour/Democrat unlike the county. Both opposite an island. Not that many matches. And anyway any county near London is more comparable to Fairfield County than it is to New Hampshire.

[beesley]

On a serious note, if I had to pick a state equivalent it's probably Virginia:

-Contains a former capital of a previous nation (Richmond + Winchester)
-Large naval/naval legacy presence (Norfolk + Portsmouth) plus other military areas (Quantico + Aldershot)
-Wealthy suburban and rural areas, plus a large commuter area in the North
-Contains areas at the extreme high ends of wealth indices (Loudoun Co. + Hart District)
-Lost their Western part (West Virginia + Bournemouth)
-Contains areas that are on the coast, but not quite (Chesapeake Bay + the Solent)
-Contains members of my family (Cousins + Me)
-Both contain a Southampton, a Portsmouth, a Fleet, and a Winchester, there's also a Petersburg to match Petersfield
-Both have a rail service in need of improvement, and a medium-to-high sized airport relative to elsewhere (Reagan + Southampton)
-Neither have a Major League Baseball Team

But the question is still stupid were it serious.

[Geoffrey Howe]

I guess Fairfield County in Connecticut would be the closest thing to an American Hampshire, with Bridgeport and Stamford standing in for Portsmouth and Southampton.

??

1. It's a county and not a state
2. It's close but not adjacent to New york (London)
3. It's mostly posh and leafy, except for two more working class cities
4. It's conservative, but more in the English sense of the word than in the Bible Belt sense

This could be said of basically any county near London, and Hampshire doesn’t best fit those stereotypes. Anyway, it’s not that close to London.

There isn’t really an equivalent to Fairfield County. It is sui generis.

Both coastal counties. Both cities also coastal and lean Labour/Democrat unlike the county. Both opposite an island. Not that many matches. And anyway any county near London is more comparable to Fairfield County than it is to New Hampshire.

Hampshire is barely coastal. All of Fairfield now leans Democrat. I think the island point is irrelevant. Fwiw, all the distances are much smaller in England.
Nowhere outside London is comparable to Fairfield: extreme concentration of wealth in a few towns; nearly everywhere very wealthy and very close to a very large city (NYC being much larger than London).

I think Beesley's is the best go at it to be honest.

[Statilius the Epicurean]

Clearly none of you, especially the Americans, know much about Hampshire.

Does anyone? Hampshire seems utterly unremarkable in every way.

As someone born and bred in Hampshire I resent this remark. It's hardly Surrey for gods sake!

[Conservatopia]

On a serious note

Please don't, it brings the level of the whole thread down.

[parochial boy]

I mentioned this once before, but the endless seeming suburban sprawly area between Southampton and Portsmouth probably is the most America-like part of the entire United Kingdom.

[Geoffrey Howe]

I mentioned this once before, but the endless seeming suburban sprawly area between Southampton and Portsmouth probably is the most America-like part of the entire United Kingdom.

Nowhere in America would you have a town named Hamble-le-Rice.

[beesley]

I mentioned this once before, but the endless seeming suburban sprawly area between Southampton and Portsmouth probably is the most America-like part of the entire United Kingdom.

Nowhere in America would you have a town named Hamble-le-Rice.

Lovely place.

[parochial boy]

I mentioned this once before, but the endless seeming suburban sprawly area between Southampton and Portsmouth probably is the most America-like part of the entire United Kingdom.

Nowhere in America would you have a town named Hamble-le-Rice.

Preppy rich people with yachts? I think there's a bit of that