Biden to keep Trump’s refugee cap

[Vaccinated Russian Bear]

I love this administration more and more every day.

Biden is basically doing what Trump *promised* to do. Universal Care next?

[Vaccinated Russian Bear]

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https://twitter.com/GuardianUS/status/1381727159224516615
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/apr/12/biden-migration-security-deal-mexico-guatemala-honduras

Biden strikes international deal in bid to stop migrants reaching US border
Officials agree with Mexico, Honduras and Guatemala to step up security to try to prevent increased migration at southern border

The Biden administration has struck an agreement with Mexico, Guatemala and Honduras to temporarily increase border security in an effort to stop migrants from reaching the US border.

According to the White House press secretary, Jen Psaki, Mexico will maintain a deployment of about 10,000 troops, while Guatemala has sent 1,500 police and military personnel to its southern border and Honduras deployed 7,000 police and military to its border “to disperse a large contingent of migrants” there. Guatemala will also set up 12 checkpoints along the migratory route through the country.

Security forces in all three countries have been frequently accused of using excessive violence against migrants, and targeting them for extortion and robbery.

A White House official said Guatemala and Honduras were deploying troops temporarily in response to a large caravan of migrants that was being organized at the end of March. The Mexican government announced an increase in security and its troop deployment in March.

Psaki said that “the objective is to make it more difficult to make the journey, and make crossing the borders more difficult”.

Migrants from Central America and Mexico are fleeing rampant corruption, organized crime, as well as hunger caused by failing crops and the impact of climate change. The right to claim asylum is enshrined in international and US laws

[Anti-Trump Truth Socialite JD Vance Enjoying Juror]

Absolutely disgusting. The whole notion of the refugee cap is ludicrous anyway. We are a nation of 325,000,000 people, you could accept 1,000,000 people per year and that wouldn’t significantly change the culture or finances of the country (if you care about that). 15,000 is a drop in the bucket.

[darklordoftech]

If the party keeps trending left on economics and conservative on the social, it’s a much better deal for populists to join the Democratic Party instead of hoping one day republicans would magically shift left on the economy.

But then where should voters who are on the left socially go?

[Vaccinated Russian Bear]

If the party keeps trending left on economics and conservative on the social, it’s a much better deal for populists to join the Democratic Party instead of hoping one day republicans would magically shift left on the economy.

But then where should voters who are on the left socially go?

Canada.

[Alcibiades]

This is pretty awful. 15,000 is a risible number for a country as large and wealthy as the United States.

[Horus]

If the party keeps trending left on economics and conservative on the social, it’s a much better deal for populists to join the Democratic Party instead of hoping one day republicans would magically shift left on the economy.

But then where should voters who are on the left socially go?

Depends what you mean by socially left. I don't see anyone of note calling for Dems to move right on criminal justice reform, abortion or drug laws, nor should they. We just need to bring our irresponsible immigration policies in line with the rest of the west.

[lfromnj]

Do people forget refugees usually require money and resources to resettle and educate?

[Hindsight was 2020]

Boooooo

[John Dule]

I continue to get exactly what I voted for.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Good

[Chips]

Biden has generally surpassed my (admittedly low) expectations for his presidency, but his immigration policy has been hot garbage. The US should welcome refugees, especially since US meddling is the reason they have to leave their homes in the first place.

This is the sad truth.

[President Johnson]

Meh. The 60,000 is still a relatively low number, but just politically it's the the right decision. As cynical as that actually is.

[Red Velvet]

U.S. meddling isn't the reason people have to leave their horrible countries.  It's not our fault most Latin American and South American countries have terrible governments.  We didn't meddle in the Peruvian election and they picked the two worst options as their presidential candidates.  Furthermore most refugees are fleeing drug cartel violence which exists despite the United States' efforts.

Peru doesn’t even occupy a significant amount of immigrants in the US, so I’m not sure where you’re coming from with the invented idea Peruvians are fleeing their country to live the US, other than the same old bigoted mentality that Latin American countries are all the same.

The large share of American continental immigration in the US comes from Mexico-Guatemala-El Salvador-Honduras-Dominican Republican-Cuba axis in Central and North America.

There are far more Canadian or South Korean immigrants in the US than Peruvian ones. And in full numbers far more Chinese and Indian immigrants as well (even if for those it’s explained because of the large population these countries have).

And if you want to look at South America, the countries with most immigrants in US are Colombia and Ecuador (considering per capita population of these countries). And Colombia is the South American country with the politics most aligned with the US, so your argument makes zero sense. You probably are buying false narratives.

Here are the origins of immigrants in the US taking into account the % they represent of the population in the country of origin:



The darkest red = most % of people there immigrate to US

The most blue and green = least % of people in the country immigrate to US

[JGibson]

Terrible move by the Biden Administration, which has been mostly good.

[Vaccinated Russian Bear]

Bad decision from a humanitarian standpoint, but politically a good decision. I know that sounds bad, but it's the uncomfortable truth.

Meh. The 60,000 is still a relatively low number, but just politically it's the the right decision. As cynical as that actually is.

Did you, guys, hold Trump to the same standard, when he made amoral, but politically right decisions?

[Del Tachi]

Great to see red avatars lose their convictions when the politics isn't working out, lol

Liberal/MSM reaction to Trump's border policy was always performative outrage that Democrats harnessed to trick unwitting White liberals into falling for their kumbaya platitudes.  Turns out that an open border policy is much more inhumane than anything Trump could possibly dream of 

[President Johnson]

Bad decision from a humanitarian standpoint, but politically a good decision. I know that sounds bad, but it's the uncomfortable truth.

Meh. The 60,000 is still a relatively low number, but just politically it's the the right decision. As cynical as that actually is.

Did you, guys, hold Trump to the same standard, when he made amoral, but politically right decisions?

Politically means in terms of pushback if Joe Biden allows more to come in. But I don't agree with decision still. But I don't take lessons from someone supporting a guy that implemented family separation policy and put kids in cages.

[Badger]

Great to see red avatars lose their convictions when the politics isn't working out, lol

Liberal/MSM reaction to Trump's border policy was always performative outrage that Democrats harnessed to trick unwitting White liberals into falling for their kumbaya platitudes.  Turns out that an open border policy is much more inhumane than anything Trump could possibly dream of 

Are you illiterate? Pretty much every Progressive/Democrat commenting or recommending posts in this thread, myself included, have expressed disappointment over this. Don't project your " screw principles, whatever helps my team is good" mentality to the rest of us.

Regarding the issue. I am disappointed in this. This and Biden's reluctance to cancel school debt are the two decisions he's made thus far that I'm genuinely disappointed about oh, and this one more so of the two. However, I can buy the argument for now that the refugee processing system is just so overflowing that we can't expand the numbers of refugees YET. I am willing to give Biden some, repeat some, leeway here to make good on his promises further down the road even if he doesn't on this point in 2021.

At any rate, I'm cautiously optimistic having a politician in the White House who has a long-standing support for Refugee Asylum claims, as opposed to one who's entire immigration policy, and indeed whose entire political party, is fundamentally rooted in xenophobia and thinly veiled racism.

[Motorcity]

For now, I'll believe that the refugee system is too gutted to handle anymore cases. That said I really hope Biden raises the limit next year.

[Red Velvet]

Bad decision from a humanitarian standpoint, but politically a good decision. I know that sounds bad, but it's the uncomfortable truth.

Meh. The 60,000 is still a relatively low number, but just politically it's the the right decision. As cynical as that actually is.

Did you, guys, hold Trump to the same standard, when he made amoral, but politically right decisions?

Politically means in terms of pushback if Joe Biden allows more to come in. But I don't agree with decision still. But I don't take lessons from someone supporting a guy that implemented family separation policy and put kids in cages.

Was it Trump though?

I mean, kids are still being held in cages, with the only difference that people are suddenly comfortable with it because the media isn’t making it a scandal.

[OSR stands with Israel]

I continue to get exactly what I voted for.

So you were for left wing economic policy?

[WD]

Excellent decision.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Smart. Democrats are far smarter and more competent than their adversaries. They are basically making it impossible for republicans to become the #populist option by getting ahead.

Moving significantly to the left economically in order to kill any Republican attempt of selling themselves as #populists. Only way for republicans to be ahead would be by becoming socialists lmao

But maintaining more moderate and conservative policies regarding some key social issues even if rhetorically they have to appear more progressive in order to be aligned with their base. They know that immigration was key for Trump’s 2016 electoral success.

Id become a dem the day they do they do that

[John Dule]

I continue to get exactly what I voted for.

So you were for left wing economic policy?

I'm for just as much left-wing policy as it takes to keep the plebes from revolting.