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« on: April 16, 2021, 11:54:51 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2021, 11:57:44 AM »

I love this administration more and more every day.
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« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2021, 11:58:58 AM »

You hate to see it
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« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2021, 12:03:11 PM »

Terrible decision.
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« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2021, 12:03:43 PM »

bad
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« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2021, 12:04:34 PM »

Apparently the reasoning is because the refugee adminstration services has been gutted and isn't equipped to handle a higher number.
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« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2021, 12:05:30 PM »

Okay, this has convinced me--the immigration and refugee policy Biden ran on was a crock of crap. Sad.
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« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2021, 12:05:48 PM »

Smart. Democrats are far smarter and more competent than their adversaries. They are basically making it impossible for republicans to become the #populist option by getting ahead.

Moving significantly to the left economically in order to kill any Republican attempt of selling themselves as #populists. Only way for republicans to be ahead would be by becoming socialists lmao

But maintaining more moderate and conservative policies regarding some key social issues even if rhetorically they have to appear more progressive in order to be aligned with their base. They know that immigration was key for Trump’s 2016 electoral success.
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« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2021, 12:07:07 PM »

Bad decision from a humanitarian standpoint, but politically a good decision. I know that sounds bad, but it's the uncomfortable truth.
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« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2021, 12:10:22 PM »

This is really sad. He is blatantly revoking a campaign pledge and something his press secretary insisted last week he was "committed to." This sort of lying to the public speaks poorly of his honesty. Very disappointed in Biden today.
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« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2021, 12:11:35 PM »

Smart. Democrats are far smarter and more competent than their adversaries. They are basically making it impossible for republicans to become the #populist option by getting ahead.

Moving significantly to the left economically in order to kill any Republican attempt of selling themselves as #populists. Only way for republicans to be ahead would be by becoming socialists lmao

But maintaining more moderate and conservative policies regarding some key social issues even if rhetorically they have to appear more progressive in order to be aligned with their base. They know that immigration was key for Trump’s 2016 electoral success.

Biden is following the path of the Danish Social Democrats. It really is a dream come true because it completely neuters the GOP's most salient talking points.
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« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2021, 12:13:39 PM »

First major decision from the admin i disagree with. Although:

Apparently the reasoning is because the refugee adminstration services has been gutted and isn't equipped to handle a higher number.
If that's the reasoning I could forgive it if the cap is later raised.
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« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2021, 12:24:23 PM »

Morally, I disagree with it, but politically he probably did make the right call.

Trunp and many other right wing nationalist around the world used anti refugee sentiment to thier advange and that was one of the reasons he why he won in 2016.

Biden knows this and is not going to give the GOP an opening to use something like this against him

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« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2021, 12:26:27 PM »

Good
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« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2021, 12:28:51 PM »

Yeah, this is really the first time I have strongly disagreed with one of Biden's decisions. Bad as the infrastructure for refugee resettlement is, I can't imagine that it is bad enough that they can't raise it at least to 30k or so.
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« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2021, 12:31:34 PM »

Smart. Democrats are far smarter and more competent than their adversaries. They are basically making it impossible for republicans to become the #populist option by getting ahead.

Moving significantly to the left economically in order to kill any Republican attempt of selling themselves as #populists. Only way for republicans to be ahead would be by becoming socialists lmao

But maintaining more moderate and conservative policies regarding some key social issues even if rhetorically they have to appear more progressive in order to be aligned with their base. They know that immigration was key for Trump’s 2016 electoral success.

Biden is following the path of the Danish Social Democrats. It really is a dream come true because it completely neuters the GOP's most salient talking points.

He really has been delivering more than I had expected. Good to see that the wokeness was mostly rhetorical speech for the more naive and loud woke base.

If the party keeps trending left on economics and conservative on the social, it’s a much better deal for populists to join the Democratic Party instead of hoping one day republicans would magically shift left on the economy.

And by destroying Republican fake populism, you also destroy Trumpism by extension.
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« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2021, 12:35:00 PM »

Biden has generally surpassed my (admittedly low) expectations for his presidency, but his immigration policy has been hot garbage. The US should welcome refugees, especially since US meddling is the reason they have to leave their homes in the first place.
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« Reply #17 on: April 16, 2021, 12:37:53 PM »

Apparently the reasoning is because the refugee adminstration services has been gutted and isn't equipped to handle a higher number.

If this is the case than Biden needs to be crystal clear about this, and about how he will increase the cap once the services have been restored.
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« Reply #18 on: April 16, 2021, 12:38:10 PM »

Biden has generally surpassed my (admittedly low) expectations for his presidency, but his immigration policy has been hot garbage. The US should welcome refugees, especially since US meddling is the reason they have to leave their homes in the first place.
How much refugees?
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« Reply #19 on: April 16, 2021, 12:39:01 PM »

In theory, there shouldn't be a cap on refugees. But the vast majority of refugees in Western countries have no interest in being refugees, and are actually just immigrants, so I agree with this decision. Plus, refugees entering the US at the southern border should come from, and not through, Mexico. Everyone else should be applying for asylum in Mexico, which is a safe and functioning country by global standards. The only exceptions I can think of are high-profile (in their country) political dissidents, etc. who need the power of the American state to protect them and for some reason needed to sneak their way in through Mexico.
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« Reply #20 on: April 16, 2021, 12:40:05 PM »

Biden has generally surpassed my (admittedly low) expectations for his presidency, but his immigration policy has been hot garbage. The US should welcome refugees, especially since US meddling is the reason they have to leave their homes in the first place.
How much refugees?

There should be no cap, we should be welcoming as many as possible.
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« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2021, 12:41:48 PM »

Bad decision and I can’t justify this.
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« Reply #22 on: April 16, 2021, 12:46:55 PM »

There should be no cap, we should be welcoming as many as possible.
I disagree. I generally support increasing the number of refugees but there should definitely be a limit.
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« Reply #23 on: April 16, 2021, 12:47:51 PM »

Biden has generally surpassed my (admittedly low) expectations for his presidency, but his immigration policy has been hot garbage. The US should welcome refugees, especially since US meddling is the reason they have to leave their homes in the first place.

Agreed but maybe the best solution is to stop meddling in their politics and adopt an anti-interference position? Let these places develop by themselves instead, or put money in them like it was one done in South Korea and post-WWII Europe for example.

And if they still don’t grow, well at least there is no guilt in regards to “it’s our obligation to accept immigrants because it’s our fault”. Your line of thought makes it sound like the problems caused by interference are compensated by accepting immigrants and they aren’t. The problems will keep existing regardless of what US immigration policy is.

In that case, the problem is in regards the US foreign policy consensus of both parties, not really the immigration one.
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« Reply #24 on: April 16, 2021, 12:56:57 PM »

U.S. meddling isn't the reason people have to leave their horrible countries.  It's not our fault most Latin American and South American countries have terrible governments.  We didn't meddle in the Peruvian election and they picked the two worst options as their presidential candidates.  Furthermore most refugees are fleeing drug cartel violence which exists despite the United States' efforts.
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