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« Reply #325 on: March 23, 2024, 02:01:32 AM »

Trump has Maga supporters that mounted an insurrection during Biden I think that classify as racism according to people of color
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« Reply #326 on: March 23, 2024, 09:27:25 AM »

Trump has Maga supporters that mounted an insurrection during Biden I think that classify as racism according to people of color
6 is a smaller number than 20.
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« Reply #327 on: March 23, 2024, 09:41:23 AM »


Well, he's done.
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« Reply #328 on: March 23, 2024, 10:02:07 AM »

Hogan has a narrow advantage but his polls are going down
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« Reply #329 on: March 25, 2024, 09:30:47 AM »

I think she's got this.

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« Reply #330 on: March 25, 2024, 09:46:35 AM »

Endorsements usually don't mean much to actual voters, but have we ever seen an entire party apparatus back one candidate so hard when another candidate who is an incumbent Congressman is also running? Feels like the deck is stacked against Trone at this point.
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« Reply #331 on: March 25, 2024, 09:49:15 AM »

Endorsements usually don't mean much to actual voters, but have we ever seen an entire party apparatus back one candidate so hard when another candidate who is an incumbent Congressman is also running? Feels like the deck is stacked against Trone at this point.

Not that I remember, at least not when the opponent wasn't a sitting congressman as well (see Porter/Lee vs. Schiff, with the party officials largely backing the latter).
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« Reply #332 on: March 25, 2024, 09:53:51 AM »

Endorsements usually don't mean much to actual voters, but have we ever seen an entire party apparatus back one candidate so hard when another candidate who is an incumbent Congressman is also running? Feels like the deck is stacked against Trone at this point.

We had another example two states over until yesterday.
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« Reply #333 on: March 25, 2024, 09:57:34 AM »

Endorsements usually don't mean much to actual voters, but have we ever seen an entire party apparatus back one candidate so hard when another candidate who is an incumbent Congressman is also running? Feels like the deck is stacked against Trone at this point.

We had another example two states over until yesterday.

Jesus how did I forget that one lmao
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« Reply #334 on: March 25, 2024, 10:06:57 AM »

Endorsements usually don't mean much to actual voters, but have we ever seen an entire party apparatus back one candidate so hard when another candidate who is an incumbent Congressman is also running? Feels like the deck is stacked against Trone at this point.

And despite all that, Trone was still leading in the last independent poll that we got.
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« Reply #335 on: March 25, 2024, 10:15:55 AM »

Endorsements usually don't mean much to actual voters, but have we ever seen an entire party apparatus back one candidate so hard when another candidate who is an incumbent Congressman is also running? Feels like the deck is stacked against Trone at this point.

And despite all that, Trone was still leading in the last independent poll that we got.

We're six weeks away from the primary on May 14, and Alsobrooks is playing catch up.

Trone has been out there, spending a lot of money to boost his name recognition, to the point where's he is comparable to Alsobrooks.

She still has a chance for certain, but she's let Trone pull ahead.
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« Reply #336 on: March 25, 2024, 10:18:54 AM »

Trone has already spent millions and he was only up 7 in the Wapo poll, which seems pretty bad for him. Alsobrooks though needs to start spending and really start to narrow the gap.
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« Reply #337 on: March 25, 2024, 12:08:04 PM »
« Edited: March 25, 2024, 12:40:39 PM by Dr Oz Lost Party! »

Endorsements usually don't mean much to actual voters, but have we ever seen an entire party apparatus back one candidate so hard when another candidate who is an incumbent Congressman is also running? Feels like the deck is stacked against Trone at this point.

And despite all that, Trone was still leading in the last independent poll that we got.

His lead was only 7 points in that poll and Alsobrooks' ads just started going on air. That was also before his j*gaboo gaffe. He's not safe at all.
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« Reply #338 on: March 25, 2024, 03:16:09 PM »

I thought Alsobrooks was favored even before, though the latest developments probably provide her an even better outlook. I think she'll make a great senator and give certain communities a voice at the national level. Overall Democrats are running a good bunch of newcomers to the chamber this cycle. Especially Alsobrooks, Kim and Schiff.
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« Reply #339 on: March 25, 2024, 05:45:52 PM »

I imagine Hogan would rather run against Alsobrooks than Trone but I don’t know enough about her or about Maryland swing voters to say for sure.
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« Reply #340 on: March 25, 2024, 06:29:24 PM »

I imagine Hogan would rather run against Alsobrooks than Trone but I don’t know enough about her or about Maryland swing voters to say for sure.
I read a single Politico article on the situation so I'm now basically an expert. Gonna go out on a limb and declare this race only lean D if Alsobrooks wins the D nomination, moving to lean R if Hogan can capture some moderate Murkowski energy instead of seeming as much of a generic R as he has been.
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« Reply #341 on: March 25, 2024, 07:56:22 PM »

I imagine Hogan would rather run against Alsobrooks than Trone but I don’t know enough about her or about Maryland swing voters to say for sure.
I read a single Politico article on the situation so I'm now basically an expert. Gonna go out on a limb and declare this race only lean D if Alsobrooks wins the D nomination, moving to lean R if Hogan can capture some moderate Murkowski energy instead of seeming as much of a generic R as he has been.

Hogan isn't up 12 a D internal had Hogan up 6 on Alsobrooks and tied àgainst Trone, I BELIEVE THAT POLL HE ISNT GONNA WIN BU 12
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« Reply #342 on: March 26, 2024, 05:42:07 PM »

I imagine Hogan would rather run against Alsobrooks than Trone but I don’t know enough about her or about Maryland swing voters to say for sure.
I read a single Politico article on the situation so I'm now basically an expert. Gonna go out on a limb and declare this race only lean D if Alsobrooks wins the D nomination, moving to lean R if Hogan can capture some moderate Murkowski energy instead of seeming as much of a generic R as he has been.

There is no reason aside from Trone’s self-funding to assume Alsobrooks is weaker than Trone. Alsobrooks does not present like a #Squad member at all if that’s the insinuation. She’s very much part of the Dem establishment.
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« Reply #343 on: March 26, 2024, 06:10:53 PM »

I imagine Hogan would rather run against Alsobrooks than Trone but I don’t know enough about her or about Maryland swing voters to say for sure.
I read a single Politico article on the situation so I'm now basically an expert. Gonna go out on a limb and declare this race only lean D if Alsobrooks wins the D nomination, moving to lean R if Hogan can capture some moderate Murkowski energy instead of seeming as much of a generic R as he has been.

There is no reason aside from Trone’s self-funding to assume Alsobrooks is weaker than Trone. Alsobrooks does not present like a #Squad member at all if that’s the insinuation. She’s very much part of the Dem establishment.

All black and brown Democrats born in 1970 and onward are Squad members I guess. I guess Hakeem Jeffries is part of the Squad now too, I guess.
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« Reply #344 on: March 26, 2024, 06:42:27 PM »

I imagine Hogan would rather run against Alsobrooks than Trone but I don’t know enough about her or about Maryland swing voters to say for sure.
I read a single Politico article on the situation so I'm now basically an expert. Gonna go out on a limb and declare this race only lean D if Alsobrooks wins the D nomination, moving to lean R if Hogan can capture some moderate Murkowski energy instead of seeming as much of a generic R as he has been.

There is no reason aside from Trone’s self-funding to assume Alsobrooks is weaker than Trone. Alsobrooks does not present like a #Squad member at all if that’s the insinuation. She’s very much part of the Dem establishment.

She’s not a squad member, but she ran a pretty gross anti-white race-baiting ad.  And more importantly, she’s run a pretty incompetent campaign so far.
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« Reply #345 on: March 26, 2024, 08:58:29 PM »

I imagine Hogan would rather run against Alsobrooks than Trone but I don’t know enough about her or about Maryland swing voters to say for sure.
I read a single Politico article on the situation so I'm now basically an expert. Gonna go out on a limb and declare this race only lean D if Alsobrooks wins the D nomination, moving to lean R if Hogan can capture some moderate Murkowski energy instead of seeming as much of a generic R as he has been.

There is no reason aside from Trone’s self-funding to assume Alsobrooks is weaker than Trone. Alsobrooks does not present like a #Squad member at all if that’s the insinuation. She’s very much part of the Dem establishment.

All black and brown Democrats born in 1970 and onward are Squad members I guess. I guess Hakeem Jeffries is part of the Squad now too, I guess.

I don’t get it. If anything, Alsobrooks is probably marginally more pragmatic than Trone is. Not that she wouldn’t vote with the D caucus 100% anyway though. Only difference is Trone would jump for the cameras for the annoying sound bites.
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« Reply #346 on: March 26, 2024, 11:39:47 PM »
« Edited: March 26, 2024, 11:43:01 PM by Dr Oz Lost Party! »

I imagine Hogan would rather run against Alsobrooks than Trone but I don’t know enough about her or about Maryland swing voters to say for sure.
I read a single Politico article on the situation so I'm now basically an expert. Gonna go out on a limb and declare this race only lean D if Alsobrooks wins the D nomination, moving to lean R if Hogan can capture some moderate Murkowski energy instead of seeming as much of a generic R as he has been.

There is no reason aside from Trone’s self-funding to assume Alsobrooks is weaker than Trone. Alsobrooks does not present like a #Squad member at all if that’s the insinuation. She’s very much part of the Dem establishment.

Atlas users, from what I've observed, tend to have a bias against black women politicians and often view them as weaker candidates. For what reasons, I'm not quite sure.
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« Reply #347 on: March 26, 2024, 11:53:32 PM »

I imagine Hogan would rather run against Alsobrooks than Trone but I don’t know enough about her or about Maryland swing voters to say for sure.
I read a single Politico article on the situation so I'm now basically an expert. Gonna go out on a limb and declare this race only lean D if Alsobrooks wins the D nomination, moving to lean R if Hogan can capture some moderate Murkowski energy instead of seeming as much of a generic R as he has been.

There is no reason aside from Trone’s self-funding to assume Alsobrooks is weaker than Trone. Alsobrooks does not present like a #Squad member at all if that’s the insinuation. She’s very much part of the Dem establishment.

Atlas users, from what I've observed, tend to have a bias against black women politicians and often view them as weaker candidates. For what reasons, I'm not quite sure.

In this case, I think it is about Trone's money.

If Alsobrooks is the nominee, the DSCC will probably end up having to spend a significant amount in one of the country's bluest states despite having multiple seats to defend in red and purple states.

If it's Trone, they can let him self-fund while they can focus on Tester, Brown, Rosen, Baldwin, Gallego, Casey and Slotkin, not to mention putting a bit towards offense in Texas and maybe Florida.
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« Reply #348 on: March 27, 2024, 12:10:00 AM »
« Edited: March 27, 2024, 12:26:26 AM by Roll Roons »

Another school of thought is that Alsobrooks may actually be the stronger candidate against Hogan because she can run on the prospect of being the state's first black Senator and one of the few black women in the Senate, while Trone would just be another rich old white guy in a Senate that already has a lot of them.
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« Reply #349 on: March 27, 2024, 12:30:38 AM »

I imagine Hogan would rather run against Alsobrooks than Trone but I don’t know enough about her or about Maryland swing voters to say for sure.
I read a single Politico article on the situation so I'm now basically an expert. Gonna go out on a limb and declare this race only lean D if Alsobrooks wins the D nomination, moving to lean R if Hogan can capture some moderate Murkowski energy instead of seeming as much of a generic R as he has been.

There is no reason aside from Trone’s self-funding to assume Alsobrooks is weaker than Trone. Alsobrooks does not present like a #Squad member at all if that’s the insinuation. She’s very much part of the Dem establishment.

Atlas users, from what I've observed, tend to have a bias against black women politicians and often view them as weaker candidates. For what reasons, I'm not quite sure.

In this case, I think it is about Trone's money.

If Alsobrooks is the nominee, the DSCC will probably end up having to spend a significant amount in one of the country's bluest states despite having multiple seats to defend in red and purple states.

If it's Trone, they can let him self-fund while they can focus on Tester, Brown, Rosen, Baldwin, Gallego, Casey and Slotkin, not to mention putting a bit towards offense in Texas and maybe Florida.

The DSCC doesn’t need to spend a dime in this race. It’s basically fools gold like TN 2018 and MT 2020.
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