Biden infrastructure/tax increase megathread

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I really can't remember when was the last time I saw similar way of the failure and incompetence of leadership.

And I think Pelosi has to resign after this. I admire her very much, but this is the only right choice to be made

[KaiserDave]

Does anyone know if we should expect any news tonight?

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

I genuinely can't believe Pelosi has f**ked this up so badly. This is late-period Theresa May levels of ineptitude handling a narrow majority. Her reputation as a parliamentarian has, or should have, completely collapsed in less than nine hours.

Hasn't she always been like that? All her fame came from being able "to get under Trump's skin", whatever it means (perhaps not getting anything from most left-wing (R) president). Dems with TDS loved it. Enjoy. 

No, this is the first time she's attempted to bring a major Democratic legislative priority to the floor without even doing a whip count first. It might be the first time any Speaker of the President's party has done that since the modern whipping process has existed.

People forget this now, but during the 111th Congress Obama's entire agenda passed Pelosi's House; it's just that everything major other than the ACA and Dodd-Frank got McConnelled.

[StateBoiler]

They're not going to "die." The house could pass BIF the day before the election if they want. They have over a year to pass it.

A Democratic Senator could also die of a heartattack tomorrow and then the Senate is ran by Republicans.

[Vaccinated Russian Bear]

https://twitter.com/JacquiHeinrich/status/1456737742851878915

Dems in disarray!

[Vaccinated Russian Bear]

https://twitter.com/JacquiHeinrich/status/1456737742851878915

Dems in disarray!

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1456738923275866115

[StateBoiler]

Does anyone know if we should expect any news tonight?

27 Democrats have not voted on the point of order.

[KaiserDave]

Does anyone know if we should expect any news tonight?

27 Democrats have not voted on the point of order.

What will that do?

[Vaccinated Russian Bear]

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1456739428949450753

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How hard is it to vote on the two bills at the same time?

[roxas11]

Live footage of Pramila Jayapal and 20 progressives on the house floor....

[Vaccinated Russian Bear]

https://twitter.com/TonyRomm/status/1456730376357961728

[KaiserDave]

At this point I'm so desperate to see anything pass, but I want to stick to the Problem Causers Caucus.

[emailking]

They're not going to "die." The house could pass BIF the day before the election if they want. They have over a year to pass it.

A Democratic Senator could also die of a heartattack tomorrow and then the Senate is ran by Republicans.

I'm talking about BIF. That no longer requires anything of the Senate.

[jaichind]

https://twitter.com/TonyRomm/status/1456730376357961728

I always felt this was the way out for Pelosi, threatening the Dem Progressives that she will make a deal with the GOP if they do not fall in line.  This should be done privately of course since there is no point in humiliating them in public.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

How hard is it to vote on the two bills at the same time?

Not hard at all unless your name is Gottheimer, Golden, Schrader, Murphy, Spanberger, Bourdeaux, or Case.

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https://twitter.com/AndrewSolender/status/1456743000793624582
So, Bush is an obvious one. Who are the others? Pressley? Jones?

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Manchin said that he is against many of the climate change in the Spending bill

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How hard is it to vote on the two bills at the same time?

Not hard at all unless your name is Gottheimer, Golden, Schrader, Murphy, Spanberger, Bourdeaux, or Case.

That's why they all must be primaried. And I as a "moderate hero" of Atlas don't care that they are Blue Dogs and some of them represent swing districts. You simply just can't obstruct your party President's agenda. And if you do it, you must be held accountable

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How hard is it to vote on the two bills at the same time?

Not hard at all unless your name is Gottheimer, Golden, Schrader, Murphy, Spanberger, Bourdeaux, or Case.

That's why they all must be primaried. And I as a "moderate hero" of Atlas don't care that they are Blue Dogs and some of them represent swing districts. You simply just can't obstruct your party President's agenda. And if you do it, you must be held accountable

IIRC, Bourdeaux switched to YES on BBB earlier today. Agree on the rest of 'em though.

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https://twitter.com/AndrewSolender/status/1456743000793624582
So, Bush is an obvious one. Who are the others? Pressley? Jones?

I would guess the four are Bush, Omar, Pressley and Bowman

[Attorney General & LGC Deputy Dwarven Dragon]

https://twitter.com/AndrewSolender/status/1456743000793624582
So, Bush is an obvious one. Who are the others? Pressley? Jones?

I would guess the four are Bush, Omar, Pressley and Bowman

Question of consideration at 201-212 currently. If all dems eventually vote (so 221-212), that would indicate Pelosi can lose 4 without needing to get any GOP.

[jaichind]

[quote author=Butlerian Jihad link=topic=437077.msg8330952#msg8330952 date=1636150044 

That's why they all must be primaried. And I as a "moderate hero" of Atlas don't care that they are Blue Dogs and some of them represent swing districts. You simply just can't obstruct your party President's agenda. And if you do it, you must be held accountable

I am fine with that as long as you also apply that to John McCain as well.

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[quote author=Butlerian Jihad link=topic=437077.msg8330952#msg8330952 date=1636150044 

That's why they all must be primaried. And I as a "moderate hero" of Atlas don't care that they are Blue Dogs and some of them represent swing districts. You simply just can't obstruct your party President's agenda. And if you do it, you must be held accountable

I am fine with that as long as you also apply that to John McCain as well.

Oh, I waited for that answer. We all know why Senator McCain voted in the way he did. And we all know why these so-called "moderates" (actually no) are voting in the way they do. These situations are incomparable

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https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1456752171861647365