OH-Sen 2022: So you’re telling me there’s a chance

[Yoda]

https://twitter.com/HeartlandSignal/status/1504955509094371339

Lmao Mandel trying to look threatening and "alpha" with the way he looks and his voice just looks pathetic.

I continue to be struck by how immature he is, both with regards to his personality and to his appearance. He looks like a college kid who is way out of his depth.

For some reason this reminded me of how when he was Treasurer he hired a frat buddy friend for a lucrative state job and the friend had to take a remedial course on, like, what the definition of the post was and what it entailed doing lol.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Without an OH, NC or AK poll we can't call the races I have gut feeling that Ryan will win though

That's why I donate to him, they said he has raised alot of money since entering but he should of debated Morgan Harper

[ElectionsGuy]

Not an endorsement, but perhaps a clue from Trump's son.

https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1506319090130067467

If Gibbons really did call for a no-fly zone, then I gotta say Rand Paul made a really poor endorsement. Vance may be the best option for those of us who favor a foreign policy of restraint.

[Zenobiyl]

My thoughts on the Ohio Senate Debate

Timken: Mostly average, felt very robotic and used a lot of clearly scripted lines. Had one really good clap-back against Gibbons, but otherwise mediocre.

Mandel: Looked very awkward, came off as very partisan and aggressive (“I will fight” came up half a hundred times). Deflected questions about the debate disaster decently enough, but still not that great overall. His answer of whether he would support McConnell was a strange one, deflecting the question to attack the media, but otherwise pretty much what you would expect from Mandel. At least it could have been worse.

Gibbons: Stumbled a few times and wasn’t the most confident speaker, but had decent answers overall. Comes across as old and a little bumbly, but certainly better than Mandel or Timken. He had a few good lines, but the delivery really sucked and took the wind out of them (talking about his attacks on Mandel’s behavior and Vance’s prior never-trumpism).

Vance: Really solid, he seems to be the best speaker of the bunch, and he responded well to questions and attacks directed at him. He had quite a few landmines to deal with, like his statement on Ukraine and his apparent hypocrisy on calling for civility while bad-mouthing political figures, but he had an effective response for each one that deflated them. He had an attack from Dolan on the Ukraine issue that could’ve been a disaster for a lesser debater, but I think Vance handled it well. Also, his pivot on the 2020 election question to talking about big tech was very slick and an effective way to avoid rehashing that old issue while keeping the base happy.

Dolan: Solid, had coherent answers and a decent response to the inevitable “trump” question. Making it about results and not rhetoric was probably all he could do, but it wasn’t really the worst option all things considered. He was a decent public speaker, stumbled here and there but presented himself well, and of the bunch he may be the most presentable behind Vance tonight.

I would say Vance won tonight, although nobody really did spectacularly well or poorly.

[Saint Milei]

Not an endorsement, but perhaps a clue from Trump's son.

https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1506319090130067467

If Gibbons really did call for a no-fly zone, then I gotta say Rand Paul made a really poor endorsement. Vance may be the best option for those of us who favor a foreign policy of restraint.

Gibbons is terrible, but Vance is even worse. He wants to be like Josh Hawley and is basically a progressive conservative in the teddy roosevelt sense.

[One Term Floridian]

https://twitter.com/HeartlandSignal/status/1504955509094371339

Lmao Mandel trying to look threatening and "alpha" with the way he looks and his voice just looks pathetic.

Didn't know UFC was based out of Ohio now lol at the moderator coming in like Dana White to stop Mandel and Gibbons from physically fighting each other

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Vance looks like Eric Trump that's why Trump likes this guy he should not be in the Senate he says Ukraine doesn't matter

[Shaula🏳️‍⚧️]

Not an endorsement, but perhaps a clue from Trump's son.

https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1506319090130067467
If Gibbons really did call for a no-fly zone, then I gotta say Rand Paul made a really poor endorsement. Vance may be the best option for those of us who favor a foreign policy of restraint.

Trump Jr is apparently friends with Vance and has been pushing his dad to endorse him.

[Shaula🏳️‍⚧️]

Not an endorsement, but perhaps a clue from Trump's son.

https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1506319090130067467
If Gibbons really did call for a no-fly zone, then I gotta say Rand Paul made a really poor endorsement. Vance may be the best option for those of us who favor a foreign policy of restraint.

Gibbons is terrible, but Vance is even worse. He wants to be like Josh Hawley and is basically a progressive conservative in the teddy roosevelt sense.

Worse? That makes him better!

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

RS want us to forget that JD Vance looks exactly like Eric Trump, and Rsblocked Voting Rights and BBB because the Trump's own wealthy casinos

[Shaula🏳️‍⚧️]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ohios-gop-senate-primary-is-getting-too-stupid-even-for-donald-trump
Trump not happy with Gibbons and Mandel because of the farce at the debate

[BuckeyeNut]

FreedomWorks did a straw poll of the debate attendees after it finished. Here are the results:

Vance - 43.1%
Timken - 20.7%
Gibbons - 16.1%
Dolan - 12.3%
Mandel - 4.6%
Other - 3.3%

https://www.freedomworks.org/content/freedomworks-releases-ohio-senate-candidate-straw-poll-results

Few people watch primary debates for anything other than President and even fewer attend said events. It will be interesting to see if this change in position manifests more broadly, but I'm highly suspeicious.

[Shaula🏳️‍⚧️]

Vance has pretty overwhelmingly won every single debate so far. I doubt much people watch the debates, but I wonder if it will impact the race.

[Shaula🏳️‍⚧️]

https://apnews.com/article/2022-midterm-elections-josh-mandel-ted-cruz-ohio-donald-trump-0ebee797c9fa6e6fa12c575911f3bd9f

Ted Cruz has endorsed Mandel. Tbh I could have sworn he already endorsed him, anyway this should surprise no one because Mandel is ideologically basically the same as Cruz. I doubt this changes anything.

Also Vance recently appeared with Don Jr on Instagram, but it probably doesn't mean anything since they're friends anyway.

We really need a new poll here, we haven't had one for a month.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

We need a poll on this race but OH PREDICTIVE isn't polling it just like PPP won't poll NC and they're from NC but we get Primary polls from there

We already know DeWine is gonna win he isn't a Tea Party candidate like Vance whom is an Eric Trump lookalike , whom is another Palin

[Ferguson97]

I wish Ryan wasn't DOA because he's perfect for the state.

https://twitter.com/TimRyan/status/1511110495557890049

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Only one pollster can tell us if Ryan is DoA it's OH Predictive and so far they refuses to poll only but the AZ Sen and Gov race which they haven't polled since February, DeWine has too high Approvals that's one reason they won't poll the races and there isn't any NC polls and PPP polls in NC the only poll we got was Budd up on Beasley 42)40 in September

[Unelectable Bystander]

I wish Ryan wasn't DOA because he's perfect for the state.

https://twitter.com/TimRyan/status/1511110495557890049

That’s impressive

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

There's no poll in OH, MO and NC Sen because all they do is poll Latino states that's why we get a bunch of FL, AZ, NV polls

We are still waiting on MI, WI, PA, MA, MD Gov polls and WI, OH, NC and PA Sen polls

They keep polling FL,NV, NH, GA, TX and Approvals of Biden that
S all we get, shameful

D's haven't sent me any Red state donation text they want me to donate to blue state Ds like donate to WARNOCK he is down 3, all I know they were lying about the polls all along, Biden Approvals Biden has only been around 44% Approvals not 50% and in this Environment since Trump net gained seats in 2020 with 44% it's the new 50% which is a 303 not 413 map

Right now, Ryan is DOA but who knows what will happen still on EDay

It's likely we care gonna get  a 125M vote turnout not 150M or 82M vote turnout I'm 2012 Obama was at 3o3/235  against Romney with 65/60M already

In order to get 413 we're gonna have to duplicate a 2020 Electorate it's 125M Electorate

Under 30 yr olds once again aren't gonna vote

[Ferguson97]

https://twitter.com/isaac_schorr/status/1511340040076640260

[Shaula🏳️‍⚧️]

https://twitter.com/isaac_schorr/status/1511340040076640260

> The National Review

The article uses the fact that donors don't like his candidacy as proof that populism isn't popular. Uh, obviously donors wouldn't like populism, populism is inherently anti-elite and pro-"the common guy".
The National Review always comes out with these pieces promoting neo-con ideology. they have a new "The GOP has moved past Trump" article come out every week or so lmao which goes to show how out-of-touch they are. The only people who care about what The National Review says are Republican donors, Republican politicians, Bill Kristol and Ben Shapiro.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Forget about OH until we get a substantial poll and NC we haven't got any

[ElectionsGuy]

https://twitter.com/isaac_schorr/status/1511340040076640260

> The National Review

The article uses the fact that donors don't like his candidacy as proof that populism isn't popular. Uh, obviously donors wouldn't like populism, populism is inherently anti-elite and pro-"the common guy".
The National Review always comes out with these pieces promoting neo-con ideology. they have a new "The GOP has moved past Trump" article come out every week or so lmao which goes to show how out-of-touch they are. The only people who care about what The National Review says are Republican donors, Republican politicians, Bill Kristol and Ben Shapiro.

Ben Shapiro is in this weird space where he's very socially and culturally conservative and willing to go into the culture war, but is still nominally anti-Trump and probably "respects" people like Jonah Goldberg who care more about respectability from the establishment.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

https://twitter.com/isaac_schorr/status/1511340040076640260

> The National Review

The article uses the fact that donors don't like his candidacy as proof that populism isn't popular. Uh, obviously donors wouldn't like populism, populism is inherently anti-elite and pro-"the common guy".
The National Review always comes out with these pieces promoting neo-con ideology. they have a new "The GOP has moved past Trump" article come out every week or so lmao which goes to show how out-of-touch they are. The only people who care about what The National Review says are Republican donors, Republican politicians, Bill Kristol and Ben Shapiro.

Imagine actually believing Vance (or Trump) is a populist

[Greedo punched first]

Is JD Vance a rashist? This isn’t even satire.
https://twitter.com/JDVance1/status/1511311385543815180?cxt=HHwWmMC9hdXsoPkpAAAA