Trump 2nd Impeachment News/Talk Megathread

[brucejoel99]

The caucus needs to get their timetables straight - Lieu says impeachment articles will be introduced on Monday, but Omar says he'll be impeached tomorrow:

https://twitter.com/tedlieu/status/1347378498458054658
https://twitter.com/IlhanMN/status/1347386742085705728

[CookieDamage]

The caucus needs to get their timetables straight - Lieu says impeachment articles will be introduced on Monday, but Omar says he'll be impeached tomorrow:

https://twitter.com/tedlieu/status/1347378498458054658
https://twitter.com/IlhanMN/status/1347386742085705728

Monday is ridiculous. Impeachment needs to happen ASAP

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

What would the timetable for an impeachment be at this point? I heard Congress won't be back in session until January 19th, but obviously they'd need to convene before them to vote on articles, right?

Note that there's no requirement that the process be finished before Joe Biden takes office; when William Belknap was impeached as Secretary of War in 1876, he resigned but was nonetheless tried and acquitted by the Senate. This would not necessarily be a futile gesture, since conviction could (and presumably would) be accompanied by a lifetime ban from holding federal office.

Alcee Hastings obviously didn't get a ban on holding federal office.

[SevenEleven]

Ted Lieu is such a great American!

[brucejoel99]

What would the timetable for an impeachment be at this point? I heard Congress won't be back in session until January 19th, but obviously they'd need to convene before them to vote on articles, right?

Note that there's no requirement that the process be finished before Joe Biden takes office; when William Belknap was impeached as Secretary of War in 1876, he resigned but was nonetheless tried and acquitted by the Senate. This would not necessarily be a futile gesture, since conviction could (and presumably would) be accompanied by a lifetime ban from holding federal office.

Alcee Hastings obviously didn't get a ban on holding federal office.

Alcee Hastings didn't attempt to overthrow the federal government.

[RussFeingoldWasRobbed]

What would the timetable for an impeachment be at this point? I heard Congress won't be back in session until January 19th, but obviously they'd need to convene before them to vote on articles, right?

Note that there's no requirement that the process be finished before Joe Biden takes office; when William Belknap was impeached as Secretary of War in 1876, he resigned but was nonetheless tried and acquitted by the Senate. This would not necessarily be a futile gesture, since conviction could (and presumably would) be accompanied by a lifetime ban from holding federal office.

Alcee Hastings obviously didn't get a ban on holding federal office.

Alcee Hastings didn't attempt to overthrow the federal government.

Jfern gonna jfern

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

What would the timetable for an impeachment be at this point? I heard Congress won't be back in session until January 19th, but obviously they'd need to convene before them to vote on articles, right?

Note that there's no requirement that the process be finished before Joe Biden takes office; when William Belknap was impeached as Secretary of War in 1876, he resigned but was nonetheless tried and acquitted by the Senate. This would not necessarily be a futile gesture, since conviction could (and presumably would) be accompanied by a lifetime ban from holding federal office.

Alcee Hastings obviously didn't get a ban on holding federal office.

I know, all see your point.

[Хahar 🤔]

What would the timetable for an impeachment be at this point? I heard Congress won't be back in session until January 19th, but obviously they'd need to convene before them to vote on articles, right?

Note that there's no requirement that the process be finished before Joe Biden takes office; when William Belknap was impeached as Secretary of War in 1876, he resigned but was nonetheless tried and acquitted by the Senate. This would not necessarily be a futile gesture, since conviction could (and presumably would) be accompanied by a lifetime ban from holding federal office.

Alcee Hastings obviously didn't get a ban on holding federal office.

Right, a permanent ban from federal office has only been implemented three times, which is less than half the number of successful impeachments in history.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Trump has conceded the election.  This is what we wanted him to do.  We should acknowledge that and hold him to it and move on until Biden is inaugurated.  No need to add fuel to the fire and encourage more controversy and confrontation.  Give Trump's supporters room to accept their loss instead of an occasion to fight for him against attackers.

[Crumpets]

Whip count at 158 in the House and 21 in the Senate.

[Buffalo Mayor Young Kim]

Trump has conceded the election.  This is what we wanted him to do.  We should acknowledge that and hold him to it and move on until Biden is inaugurated.  No need to add fuel to the fire and encourage more controversy and confrontation.  Give Trump's supporters room to accept their loss instead of an occasion to fight for him against attackers.

Donald Trump attempted a coup.
Failing doesn't absolve him of responsibility.
Anything short of removal and prison is unacceptable.

[Roll Roons]

Trump has conceded the election.  This is what we wanted him to do.  We should acknowledge that and hold him to it and move on until Biden is inaugurated.  No need to add fuel to the fire and encourage more controversy and confrontation.  Give Trump's supporters room to accept their loss instead of an occasion to fight for him against attackers.

The man incited a riot in the U.S. Capitol. A riot that occurred with the sole purpose of overturning an election that he lost fair and square. We were lucky that no members were harmed.

He's gone his whole life messing things up without having to worry about the consequences. It's about time he faced some real ones.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Impeach the SOB and then charge him with sedition and inciting rebellion.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Trump has conceded the election.  This is what we wanted him to do.  We should acknowledge that and hold him to it and move on until Biden is inaugurated.  No need to add fuel to the fire and encourage more controversy and confrontation.  Give Trump's supporters room to accept their loss instead of an occasion to fight for him against attackers.

The man incited a riot in the U.S. Capitol. A riot that occurred with the sole purpose of overturning an election that he lost fair and square. We were lucky that no members were harmed.

He's gone his whole life messing things up without having to worry about the consequences. It's about time he faced some real ones.

I agree completely, their needs to be consequences for lying and scamming people to the point of insurrection.

[The Undefeatable Debbie Stabenow]

Have any other House Democrats said something about when an impeachment vote is likely to occur? I hope Omar is closer to being right than Lieu is, although I saw something on Twitter about the caucus having a call tomorrow at noon to discuss their next steps.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Leave it to Shua to spinelessly weasel his way into defending this guy, even after all that's just happened, even after several lifelong Republicans on this very forum and a few in Congress have come to the conclusion he must go. But he's such an independent voice.

[7,052,770]

Trump has conceded the election.  This is what we wanted him to do.  We should acknowledge that and hold him to it and move on until Biden is inaugurated.  No need to add fuel to the fire and encourage more controversy and confrontation.  Give Trump's supporters room to accept their loss instead of an occasion to fight for him against attackers.

Even you have to be joking. Trump incited a riot that ransacked the Capitol and literally beat a policeman to death, and you think we should let it go to spare the feeeeeeelings of Trump supporters? F-u-c-k No. Trump's presidency ends next week or the Democratic caucus is a joke.

[Buffalo Mayor Young Kim]

Trump has conceded the election.  This is what we wanted him to do.  We should acknowledge that and hold him to it and move on until Biden is inaugurated.  No need to add fuel to the fire and encourage more controversy and confrontation.  Give Trump's supporters room to accept their loss instead of an occasion to fight for him against attackers.

Even you have to be joking. Trump incited a riot that ransacked the Capitol and literally beat a policeman to death, and you think we should let it go to spare the feeeeeeelings of Trump supporters? F-u-c-k No. Trump's presidency ends next week or the Democratic caucus is a joke.

But see can you prove beyond a reasonable doubt on this here internet forum that Donald Trump meant to start a riot when he...checks notes...bused in his craziest supporters, subjected them to unhinged rants by his son, Rudy Guilliani, and Trump himself, and told them to march to the Capitol while congress was in session.

I AM VERY VERY SMART!

[Badger]

The Senate is in recess until January 19th so it won't make a difference either way.

McConnell could call them back in emergency session if he had the stones. For that matter I think if Pence and the cabinet invoke the 25th Amendment, acting president Mikey could call them back into emergency session as well.

Yeah, neither will happen, so impeach away, but be quick about it.

After the presidents are we robotic and obviously unmeant video presentation tonight, I tend to agree. I suspect that was the price he had to pay when presented with a near ultimatum of do it or the cabinet would vote to bounce his ass.

[John Dule]

Trump has conceded the election.  This is what we wanted him to do.  We should acknowledge that and hold him to it and move on until Biden is inaugurated.  No need to add fuel to the fire and encourage more controversy and confrontation.  Give Trump's supporters room to accept their loss instead of an occasion to fight for him against attackers.

No. In 100 years, American children must read these words in their history books: "Due to his nefarious treason, Donald Trump was the only president to have been impeached twice, and to have been banned for life from ever holding elected office again."

[Badger]

Any word from Casey or Toomey? Toomey could be a real possibility for a GOP vote for impeachment.

I expect all Senate Republicans, except perhaps Romney, to wait for the House to impeach Truml before making their views public

Would you support state Republican parties cancelling primaries for republican senators who vote to impeach Trump and switch to a convention system to make their nomination a formality

I fully support the idea of Republican Senators brave enough to Buck there Trump is base being renominated rather than pay the price to that extremist Wing. However, my friend oh, I'm not sure a convention will necessarily help that. Surely the convention has to involve elected delegate somehow, and in some ways that augments the strength of the hyper mobilized fanatics. Don't forget, didn't Utah lose at a reasonable moderate Senator to a far right-wing loon Mike Lee I believe, through their primary convention system just several years ago?

[QAnonKelly]

Trump has conceded the election.  This is what we wanted him to do.  We should acknowledge that and hold him to it and move on until Biden is inaugurated.  No need to add fuel to the fire and encourage more controversy and confrontation.  Give Trump's supporters room to accept their loss instead of an occasion to fight for him against attackers.

Obama didn’t prosecute the people who started the Iraq war and caused the recession. We shouldn’t make the same mistake twice. Garland should throw the books at these mofos so they can rot in prison for their lives. Various Trumps included.

[Former Crackhead Mike Lindell]

Political nerds salivate at the thought of a teeny-tiny Pence term. "The shortest Presidential term in history, don't you know!" Look at him, all nestled in between Trump and Biden on that Wikipedia list of presidents! Mike Pence, 46th POTUS, in office for, what was it, nine days? Does he get a Presidential library? Does he 'join the club'? Out of office, does Pence serve as a sort of stand-in for the four lost years under Trump, whom many would rather forget?

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Are Omar’s and Lieu’s different timelines based on what I hear are two impeachment resolutions going around separately (one from Cicilline about the coup itself and one from Omar apparently about the Raffensperger phone call)? If so, why not just consolidate them and impeach him under two articles like last time?

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Political nerds salivate at the thought of a teeny-tiny Pence term. "The shortest Presidential term in history, don't you know!" Look at him, all nestled in between Trump and Biden on that Wikipedia list of presidents! Mike Pence, 46th POTUS, in office for, what was it, nine days? Does he get a Presidential library? Does he 'join the club'? Out of office, does Pence serve as a sort of stand-in for the four lost years under Trump, whom many would rather forget?

I must admit that this does play a role in my strong desire for immediate impeachment, plus it will be fun to watch everyone scramble to get rid of their Biden 46 merch.