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« Reply #675 on: October 01, 2022, 09:04:52 AM »
« edited: October 01, 2022, 09:09:31 AM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »

The EDay isn't for 5 weeks let's wait but I am not listening to Progressive Moderate whom has AZ, GA and PA Lean R and Cook and Sabato have them Lean D he made a D nut map in 2020 and predicted GA to go R wrong too just like now he is predicting GA wrong

WARNOCK he as been leading 46/41 and if it goes to a runoff it benefits WARNOCK

.every poll has been tied, the last three

Even McConnell said if the Rs win it won't be 54 seats the most is 52 seats AZ and PA aren't gonna go R
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« Reply #676 on: October 01, 2022, 10:06:02 AM »

Democrats are not going to win here in a Midterm where President barely cracks 40 % in the State when it comes to his Job Approval.

I expect this Race to be put away by Republicans in the next couple of weeks.

We've been over this already, Biden's JA is pretty irrelevant to these contests.

Also, this race should've been put away a month ago. The fact that Republicans have had to spend so much money here and the two are still tied is bad for Budd.
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« Reply #677 on: October 01, 2022, 02:19:47 PM »

Democrats are not going to win here in a Midterm where President barely cracks 40 % in the State when it comes to his Job Approval.

I expect this Race to be put away by Republicans in the next couple of weeks.

We've been over this already, Biden's JA is pretty irrelevant to these contests.

Also, this race should've been put away a month ago. The fact that Republicans have had to spend so much money here and the two are still tied is bad for Budd.

Let the GOP waste its precious money here rather than in actually competitive races like NV and GA and PA. I'm glad they are. I only hope our side isn't doing in the same - focus on the most competitive of races rather than seats that are going to go red (and that we don't even need by any means).
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« Reply #678 on: October 01, 2022, 03:19:59 PM »

Most users always talk about Biden JA and Trump has the same Approvals even now
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« Reply #679 on: October 01, 2022, 03:41:00 PM »






Budd is doing just fine right now considering NC polling.
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« Reply #680 on: October 01, 2022, 03:48:28 PM »






Budd is doing just fine right now considering NC polling.
Tillis basically never led in any of the Major Polling Outfits in his Race against Hagan.
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« Reply #681 on: October 01, 2022, 04:22:49 PM »

EDay is in five weeks we will see what happens in NC
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« Reply #682 on: October 02, 2022, 10:52:11 AM »






Budd is doing just fine right now considering NC polling.
Tillis basically never led in any of the Major Polling Outfits in his Race against Hagan.

He still underperformed the partisanship of his state pretty big time given the year and also the fact NC was redder in 2014. Polarization wasn’t as bad in 2014 tbf. In 2020, the poling miss in NC-Sen was far more severe and inexcusable and may have been due to the scandal causing the race to close last minute. Reminder that most polls had Cunningham outperforming Biden iirc, and he regularly hit that 48-50% range.
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« Reply #683 on: October 02, 2022, 02:52:38 PM »


[gestures wildly at the GOP gaining row offices in 2016, NC being widely expected to at least swing D in the 2016 Presidential, row office elections swinging R in 2020...)
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« Reply #684 on: October 02, 2022, 02:55:36 PM »






Budd is doing just fine right now considering NC polling.
Yeah people getting excited about this are going to be very disappointed on election day.
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« Reply #685 on: October 02, 2022, 09:40:03 PM »


[gestures wildly at the GOP gaining row offices in 2016, NC being widely expected to at least swing D in the 2016 Presidential, row office elections swinging R in 2020...)

Ok I think I misspoke. It’s trended left on the Pres level, but Dems have lost a ton of crossover/residual support downballot on the state level.

A senate race I think of as federal and more closely aligns with Pres results than Gov results; senate races just lag a cycle or so behind in terms of shifts.

Going forwards, I’d suspect Nc will trend left since there seems to be far more upside for Dems as thing stand today and population shifts are particularly horrible for the gop.
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« Reply #686 on: October 03, 2022, 08:20:32 AM »

Seems odd to me that Cooper is not doing more for Beasley since he's the most popular figure in NC.
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« Reply #687 on: October 04, 2022, 10:07:40 AM »

This is rather interesting

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« Reply #688 on: October 04, 2022, 10:34:40 AM »

This is rather interesting



Only chance for Beasley is matching Biden in the rurals and getting a Dobbs boost out of the Triangle, Greensboro and Charlotte- kind of like the special elections.
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« Reply #689 on: October 04, 2022, 10:34:57 AM »

This is rather interesting



Considering generational turnover and growth patterns this isn’t too surprising. For example, Wake County alone will have ~40k more residents than in 2020. Even if only 20k of them actually vote, that could def have an impact around the margins.

On the flip side, I’d be curious to know how NC’s black belt is holding up cause the depopulation of it has been absolutely brutal.
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« Reply #690 on: October 04, 2022, 11:05:24 AM »

Safe D Pa, AZ, MH
Competitive D GA, NV
Tossup WI, OH, NC
Competitive R IA, IN, FL
Safe R MO

3/8 net gain D seats
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« Reply #691 on: October 04, 2022, 02:03:58 PM »


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« Reply #692 on: October 04, 2022, 02:05:37 PM »




The classification Toss-up or at least Tilt Republican may be accurate on these terms, though Budd is still very likely to win. I think the result will be similar to 2020.
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« Reply #693 on: October 04, 2022, 02:12:22 PM »
« Edited: October 04, 2022, 02:20:09 PM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »




The classification Toss-up or at least Tilt Republican may be accurate on these terms, though Budd is still very likely to win. I think the result will be similar to 2020.

Lol it's time to vote stop worrying about rankings it's a 303 map with wave insurance of course Rs don't want Ds to win OH, UT, NC and DL that means we will hold the Senate in 24 because they only can win it if we are stuck at 50/52 seats by winning OH, MT and WV

OH, FL, NC and Ut and WI are gonna be characterized as too close to call and our VBM and Early voting exceeds Rs it's called prediction maps not ratings maps that we make, some users think it's a ratings maps but your R nut map gonna be wrong if we win wave insurance

Remember in 2020 the rankings said Ds net seats in H we lost seats and Trump had same Approval as BIDEN

Budd ISNOT VERY LIKELY TO WIN AND NEITHER IS JOHNSON OR LAXALT OR LOMBARDO A 1/3PT LEAD IS NOTHING FOR OUR VBM THAT EXCEEDS RS, Hurricane Ian doesn't touch wI, OH, UT or NC it only touches FL you can argued that Abbott and DeSantis are safe they are up 7 not 2 pts but we still have to vote
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« Reply #694 on: October 04, 2022, 02:37:49 PM »



The classification Toss-up or at least Tilt Republican may be accurate on these terms, though Budd is still very likely to win. I think the result will be similar to 2020.

DDHQ uses an unusually wide defintion of Toss-up.  IIRC it's anything less than a 65% favorite.
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« Reply #695 on: October 05, 2022, 01:56:09 PM »

FiveThirtyEight has a new piece out on this race:



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According to FiveThirtyEight’s midterm election forecast, Republican Rep. Ted Budd currently has around a 2-in-3 chance of beating Democrat Cheri Beasley, a former chief justice of the state Supreme Court, to succeed retiring Sen. Richard Burr.2 That doesn’t mean the race is a done deal: Our polling average shows a much more competitive race, with the most recent surveys showing the two candidates neck and neck.

But the idea that the race could be close shouldn’t comfort Democrats too much. North Carolina is no stranger to close Senate matchups. In fact, in the past three Senate elections, the Democratic candidate has never lost by more than 6 percentage points.

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In the end, we still expect this race to be a close one given past Senate margins in North Carolina, and the fact that Beasley is a fairly strong candidate. That September Emerson College survey found Budd and Beasley practically neck and neck in terms of their favorability numbers: Forty-eight percent of voters in North Carolina had a favorable view of the Republican compared with 46 percent who felt the same way about Beasley. Their unfavorability numbers were about the same, too: Thirty-eight percent viewed Budd unfavorably versus 40 percent for Beasley.

So all hope isn’t lost for Beasley. Since Democrats’ dreams of winning a North Carolina Senate race since 2008 has been a sort of pipe dream, it’s unclear whether she can pull through. But the possibility is still there. “In this state, anything could happen,” Bitzer told me. “So who knows?”
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« Reply #696 on: October 05, 2022, 03:05:53 PM »

If there is a D upset, it will be here.
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« Reply #697 on: October 05, 2022, 03:29:57 PM »


I still maintain Ohio is more likely than NC.  If we’re treating a Barnes win in Wisconsin as a Democratic upset, then that’s obviously more likely than NC or OH flipping, although right now I predict we narrowly come up short in all three.
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« Reply #698 on: October 07, 2022, 07:47:43 AM »

Dems seemingly have some faith here - Senate Majority PAC adding another $4M in the next two weeks

https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/meetthepressblog/democrats-ramp-spending-north-carolina-senate-race-rcna51008
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« Reply #699 on: October 07, 2022, 07:50:26 AM »

We have a good chance in NC, UT, SD, IN and OH and LA

I know users ignored that poll in SD GOV showing Ds within reach of Kristie Noem but Bengs has taken over what Franken spot used to be
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