PA-SN 2022 megathread: Shrek vs. The Wizard of Oz

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

We have a ways to go in the Election, it's a 303 map anyways Hassan, Kelly, CCM are gonna win and PA flips, WI is a Tossup and GA and LA are Runoffs states

Approval ratings are irrelevant it's the votes that count, I know the users keep peeking at the pbower2A EVERYDAY Approvals but they're are irrelevant they can't predict turnout and if you read any of my comments it was a 33/33 M same day voting election in 2010)14, since 2016 it's been 65)62 M Electorate 303 map

Hillary was the one that created it that's why FL and AZ and GA are close she almost won them

[Morning in Atlas]

They have a machine. We have an OC.

We will beat Republicans in May and November.

[Xing]

People still pay attention to James Carville? Lol

Anyway, this seat remains a longshot for any Democrat, and the insistence that only one Democrat (always the preferred one of the person speaking) can win and would outperform any other by a ton is tiresome.

[wbrocks67]

People still pay attention to James Carville? Lol

Anyway, this seat remains a longshot for any Democrat, and the insistence that only one Democrat (always the preferred one of the person speaking) can win and would outperform any other by a ton is tiresome.

A "longshot" is being a bit ridiculous. The environment was only slightly better for Biden/Dems in November and McLaughlin lost by <1 in the SC race. Not to mention, Oz and McCormick are still bottom tier candidates on the GOP side.

I get that it's a red wave year, but the GOP bench on both races is *bad* and that should not be understated.

[Not Me, Us]

People still pay attention to James Carville? Lol

Anyway, this seat remains a longshot for any Democrat, and the insistence that only one Democrat (always the preferred one of the person speaking) can win and would outperform any other by a ton is tiresome.

A "longshot" is being a bit ridiculous. The environment was only slightly better for Biden/Dems in November and McLaughlin lost by <1 in the SC race. Not to mention, Oz and McCormick are still bottom tier candidates on the GOP side.

I get that it's a red wave year, but the GOP bench on both races is *bad* and that should not be understated.

I honestly don't think McCormick is a bad candidate. He's more or less generic R, and in this environment, that alone would be more than enough to carry him over the finish line. Rs do have a problem in the Governor's race though, Mastriano and Barletta are pretty atrocious.

[Xing]

People still pay attention to James Carville? Lol

Anyway, this seat remains a longshot for any Democrat, and the insistence that only one Democrat (always the preferred one of the person speaking) can win and would outperform any other by a ton is tiresome.

A "longshot" is being a bit ridiculous. The environment was only slightly better for Biden/Dems in November and McLaughlin lost by <1 in the SC race. Not to mention, Oz and McCormick are still bottom tier candidates on the GOP side.

I get that it's a red wave year, but the GOP bench on both races is *bad* and that should not be understated.

In a high profile Senate race, I doubt that many who want a Republican Senate will be willing to vote for any Democrat. Maybe Oz would do a bit worse than what I’d expect given the environment, but Democrats winning a race here in a red wave year is hard to imagine, unless the Republican candidate really does crash and burn.

[Shaula🏳️‍⚧️]

People still pay attention to James Carville? Lol

Anyway, this seat remains a longshot for any Democrat, and the insistence that only one Democrat (always the preferred one of the person speaking) can win and would outperform any other by a ton is tiresome.

A "longshot" is being a bit ridiculous. The environment was only slightly better for Biden/Dems in November and McLaughlin lost by <1 in the SC race. Not to mention, Oz and McCormick are still bottom tier candidates on the GOP side.

I get that it's a red wave year, but the GOP bench on both races is *bad* and that should not be understated.

In a high profile Senate race, I doubt that many who want a Republican Senate will be willing to vote for any Democrat. Maybe Oz would do a bit worse than what I’d expect given the environment, but Democrats winning a race here in a red wave year is hard to imagine, unless the Republican candidate really does crash and burn.

I actually think Oz would do better than a Generic R because of how loved he is by low-info suburban women.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

People still pay attention to James Carville? Lol

Anyway, this seat remains a longshot for any Democrat, and the insistence that only one Democrat (always the preferred one of the person speaking) can win and would outperform any other by a ton is tiresome.

A "longshot" is being a bit ridiculous. The environment was only slightly better for Biden/Dems in November and McLaughlin lost by <1 in the SC race. Not to mention, Oz and McCormick are still bottom tier candidates on the GOP side.

I get that it's a red wave year, but the GOP bench on both races is *bad* and that should not be understated.

In a high profile Senate race, I doubt that many who want a Republican Senate will be willing to vote for any Democrat. Maybe Oz would do a bit worse than what I’d expect given the environment, but Democrats winning a race here in a red wave year is hard to imagine, unless the Republican candidate really does crash and burn.

I actually think Oz would do better than a Generic R because of how loved he is by low-info suburban women.

He's losing by 9 pts to Fettetman and 3 pts to Lamb, McCormick is leading by 3 over Fettetman, Oz is overrated just like Walker is

[Born to Slay. Forced to Work.]

I had a dream last night that Fetterman won the general with 49%

The prophecy has been laid

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

I had a dream last night that Fetterman won the general with 49%

The prophecy has been laid

Fetterman will get over 50 percent not 49 percent he is running with Shapiro, along with WHITMER they both are popular

[wbrocks67]

Both Lamb and Fetterman are full throttle with TV ads. I've seen both recently on cable like CNN also local like ABC.

[SnowLabrador]

Both Lamb and Fetterman are full throttle with TV ads. I've seen both recently on cable like CNN also local like ABC.

Ads aren't enough. Fetterman needs a ground game. Of course, neither will win the general election.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Snowlabrador is so entrenched that's it's a red wave nothing is gonna tell him otherwise polls underestimate Minority support

But, alot of Atlas D's are seeing that 22 is a red wave eventhough they all grossly overpredicted Biden margins in 22

Sir Mohammed keep quoting these 25 R gains in the H but an R spokesperson said it's 10 seats

D's don't have to worry about losing except on EDay and Turnout not APPROVALS will dictate the Election .

But, should the Election follow Approvals D's lose calls will be made for Garland ouster for Failing to Prosecute Trump

Biden hasn't held anyone accountable in his administration yet, but losing an Election will spark it

[LAB-LIB]

Never thought I'd see this headline, but here we are...

https://twitter.com/DrOz/status/1508475797534826506?cxt=HHwWlICzhdyvl-8pAAAA

[Calthrina950]

Never thought I'd see this headline, but here we are...

https://twitter.com/DrOz/status/1508475797534826506?cxt=HHwWlICzhdyvl-8pAAAA

To "lead" the people of Pennsylvania? He's running for Senate, not Governor. It would have been more appropriate for him to say that he will "represent" the people of Pennsylvania. But at any rate, Rick Perry actually competed on ABC's Dancing with the Stars after resigning as Energy Secretary. Obviously, he didn't get that far.

[LAB-LIB]

Never thought I'd see this headline, but here we are...

https://twitter.com/DrOz/status/1508475797534826506?cxt=HHwWlICzhdyvl-8pAAAA

To "lead" the people of Pennsylvania? He's running for Senate, not Governor. It would have been more appropriate for him to say that he will "represent" the people of Pennsylvania. But at any rate, Rick Perry actually competed on ABC's Dancing with the Stars after resigning as Energy Secretary. Obviously, he didn't get that far.

Perhaps it's different in the state Rick Perry was governor of, which was...uh...uh...I can't. Sorry. Oops.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Oz is down 9 pts to Fetterman and 3 pts to lamb so

Rick Perry is old news anyways

[Morning in Atlas]

I'm sorry. I made an error. James Carville does not own Penn Progress. He worked with them and did events for them, but isn't affiliated with the PAC's leadership itself.

Its executive director is Erik Smith, a spokesperson and executive for Partnership for America's Healthcare Future - a front group for Big Pharma that peddled their interests throughout the 2018 and 2020 cycles. So the Lamb campaign is being propped up by Big Pharma, not the establishment that I love to hate.

As I have said before - the mask slips. When the pharmaceutical lobby is doing a full-court press to support a candidate, avoid them like the plague.

[LAB-LIB]

I'm sorry. I made an error. James Carville does not own Penn Progress. He worked with them and did events for them, but isn't affiliated with the PAC's leadership itself.

Its executive director is Erik Smith, a spokesperson and executive for Partnership for America's Healthcare Future - a front group for Big Pharma that peddled their interests throughout the 2018 and 2020 cycles. So the Lamb campaign is being propped up by Big Pharma, not the establishment that I love to hate.

As I have said before - the mask slips. When the pharmaceutical lobby is doing a full-court press to support a candidate, avoid them like the plague.

I believe Lamb co-sponsored the legislation allowing Medicare to negotiate lower prescription drug prices. I'm not sure if he's person I'd support for the nomination, but I think that's significant.

[Oppo]

https://twitter.com/andrewperezdc/status/1508796869824155651?s=21

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Lol it's not gonna work Fettetman already won PA Lt Gov with Pittsburgh if you look at him he is Working class you don't have to be a moderate to be Working class, Bernie was a Socialist and was doing better than Hillary did WI, MI and PA in 2016, Safe Fettetman

[wbrocks67]

I literally could give two sh** what any super pac is saying. This is a primary, words will be slung from all opponents.

[President Johnson]

Never thought I'd see this headline, but here we are...

https://twitter.com/DrOz/status/1508475797534826506?cxt=HHwWlICzhdyvl-8pAAAA

Imagine thinking this moves a single vote.

Most of these endorsement actually don't matter much, if at all. Maybe a few big names like Obama and Trump can make a difference, or some local hero or a certain celebrity, but Rick Freakin' Perry's endorsement in a Pennsylvania primary? Lmao.

[Morning in Atlas]

I literally could give two sh** what any super pac is saying. This is a primary, words will be slung from all opponents.

I too love allying with Big Pharma to own the progressives

[Sestak]

I think the people here moaning either about Kenyatta or about the 'other great candidates who didn't run' are the most delusional of all. For those of you who have forgotten - Democrats from SEPA DO NOT WIN. Again and again the party has tried throwing these candidates at the electorate and again and again they've failed. The rest of the state hates them. Every Democratic win statewide has come from someone from another part of the state. The closest thing to a SEPA Democrat to win the state top-ticket since Rendell was Biden, and he also emphasizes his Scranton tie more than anything.


There are arguments as to whether Lamb or Fetterman is the better candidate. I've been disappointed in Fetterman thus far - he seemed to put more effort in his Lt Gov race in 2018 than this race! - but it's still very early. If he ramps things up now we've seen before that he can be a decently complelling candidate. If nothing else, we ought to remind ourself what most of this forum was saying about Warnock throwing away his race by not campaigning - and that was much much closer to the election than this is.