PA-SN 2022 megathread: Shrek vs. The Wizard of Oz

[RogueBeaver]

Costello is leaning against running.

[Meatball Ron]

1) I would love to see Kenyatta drop down and run against Evans.  I actually think he’d have a better shot there. 

What's wrong with Evans? He seems like a pretty run-of-the-mill Congressional Dem (more on the progressive side given CPC membership and M4A support), and other than a few very minor controversies from his days as State Rep, I'm not seeing anything related to corruption or other major issues. I may just not be informed enough though, he's pretty low-profile as far as I can tell.

Don't get me wrong, I would love to see Kenyatta in higher office - US Senate, House, a statewide PA office, really anything, as he's one of my favorite politicians right now. Just curious if there's an issue with Evans.

[Pheurton Skeurto]

Costello is leaning against running.

What a cuck.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Likely D

[KaiserDave]

Costello is leaning against running.

Costello is irrelevant whether or not he runs, so...shrug.

[Boss_Rahm]

1) I would love to see Kenyatta drop down and run against Evans.  I actually think he’d have a better shot there. 

What's wrong with Evans? He seems like a pretty run-of-the-mill Congressional Dem (more on the progressive side given CPC membership and M4A support), and other than a few very minor controversies from his days as State Rep, I'm not seeing anything related to corruption or other major issues. I may just not be informed enough though, he's pretty low-profile as far as I can tell.

Don't get me wrong, I would love to see Kenyatta in higher office - US Senate, House, a statewide PA office, really anything, as he's one of my favorite politicians right now. Just curious if there's an issue with Evans.

I'm in Evans' district. He takes the mainstream Democratic position on every issue, but sometimes it takes a lot of pushing even to get him there. For example, he held out for a while against net neutrality legislation. Kenyatta would be a lateral move in my opinion, but I'd love to get someone into that seat who's further to the left.

[Skunk]

Costello is leaning against running.

Would be hilarious for all his posturing and attention seeking on Twitter to amount to him not even running.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Costello is leaning against running.

What really is the R bench here?

[Secretary of State Liberal Hack]

Costello is leaning against running.

Would be hilarious for all his posturing and attention seeking on Twitter to amount to him not even running.

I remember somebody saying he's a sad-case, spends all this time sh**t-posting on twitter insisting he's a magical canidate who would bring back all the suburbanites but retired in 2018 rather than face an actualy competitve election.

[wbrocks67]

LMAO Costello is embarrasing

[Pheurton Skeurto]

Costello is leaning against running.

What really is the R bench here?

Best case scenario for them right now is Reschenthaler or maybe Meuser.

[MT Treasurer]

Costello is leaning against running.

What really is the R bench here?

Costello was never part of the serious R bench in this state, even if it had been completely depleted. Possibly one of the worst possible statewide candidate for PA culturally/ideologically (not Charlie Dent-tier bad, but pretty close), and (this should be blatantly obvious) never would have made through a R primary. 

I also think concerns about the GOP "bench" in these Senate races (including PA, but also AZ/NV) are quite overblown in general. The size of the state's population allows for plenty of R options, particularly but not exclusively among the Representatives. I might be wrong, but you’re also likely to see no shortage of private-sector Republican candidates with no political background emerge in several House/Senate races. It’s just incredibly early in the cycle.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

The Senate is gonna stay D, D's will win 51/49 while GA goes R, the Morning Consult poll clearly shows Hassan will win, but the Rs can take H by winning 10 seats or so or if Covid improves D's can win it.

[wbrocks67]

The problem for Fitz is that in a GOP primary between like him, nobodys, and like Reschenthaler for example, he likely loses.

https://twitter.com/John__Cole/status/1382388876409499650

[😥]

I doubt he's running, but still:

https://twitter.com/John__Cole/status/1382388876409499650?s=20

[S019]

Pretty good POLITICO piece on Trump's influence: https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/15/pennsylvania-senate-race-trump-481723

I'm still hoping the GOP nominates Dent or Costello, just so even if the Republicans win, there won't be another Trumpist loon winning, too. I obviously still prefer the Democrats, but it's pretty alarming how basically every serious candidate is a downgrade from Toomey, who as a reminder was considered pretty far right in 2010.

[Frenchrepublican]

Good numbers for Fetterman who raises nearly $4 M
https://twitter.com/Robillard/status/1382464593461645316?s=20

[Frenchrepublican]

https://twitter.com/JonathanTamari/status/1382812190198136834?s=20

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

We need to see primary and GE polls to see how strong Fetterman is but is very much like Bob Casey Jr

[wbrocks67]

https://twitter.com/JonathanTamari/status/1382812190198136834?s=20

I don't think Dean is going to run. Houlahan seems like the only female congresswoman from PA likely to do so at this point.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

I hope Dean stays out of the race, I don’t think she has the political chops to handle a highly competitive Senate GE (especially if it’s not a Democratic-leaning national environment) and she was one of the less charismatic impeachment managers.

[Not Me, Us]

Good Politico article about Fetterman and his campaign: https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/04/16/john-fetterman-profile-2022-senate-politics-pennsylvania-481259

I think it's a pretty fair assessment of Fetterman's strengths and weaknesses as a candidate. The points about Fetterman's weak relationships with progressive groups is an interesting one, and one I can attest to, even as a supporter. A few weeks ago, there an organizing meeting for Our Revolution PA which I was a part of. Larry Krasner gave a quick speech, and Malcolm Kenyatta and another Senate candidate named Alex Khalil were both in the Zoom call live (Kenyatta gave a very good speech). But Fetterman wasn't there in-person, he only had a quick pre-recorded message. It isn't a big deal for me, but it did seem like Kenyatta cared a lot more about connecting with activists than Fetterman.

[Pheurton Skeurto]

Good Politico article about Fetterman and his campaign: https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/04/16/john-fetterman-profile-2022-senate-politics-pennsylvania-481259

I think it's a pretty fair assessment of Fetterman's strengths and weaknesses as a candidate. The points about Fetterman's weak relationships with progressive groups is an interesting one, and one I can attest to, even as a supporter. A few weeks ago, there an organizing meeting for Our Revolution PA which I was a part of. Larry Krasner gave a quick speech, and Malcolm Kenyatta and another Senate candidate named Alex Khalil were both in the Zoom call live (Kenyatta gave a very good speech). But Fetterman wasn't there in-person, he only had a quick pre-recorded message. It isn't a big deal for me, but it did seem like Kenyatta cared a lot more about connecting with activists than Fetterman.

Honestly, as the weeks have passed, I've become way more interested in Kenyatta as a candidate. I don't really care about his potential weaknesses in the general, he is a great dude who really seems to care. I think he would be the perfect candidate to unify behind for Democrats and he could make a really solid pitch to independents and moderate Republicans in the general. Though I feel like I would be selling out Fetterman, who I was really excited to support. I pitched in $10 to Fetterman yesterday as well. I like them both a lot, but Kenyatta seems way more fired up and willing to earn support. Fetterman gives me the impression that he feels like he deserves the nomination just because. I also was not a fan of how he handled the response to the jogger story. His attitude just seems off.

[KaiserDave]

Good Politico article about Fetterman and his campaign: https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/04/16/john-fetterman-profile-2022-senate-politics-pennsylvania-481259

I think it's a pretty fair assessment of Fetterman's strengths and weaknesses as a candidate. The points about Fetterman's weak relationships with progressive groups is an interesting one, and one I can attest to, even as a supporter. A few weeks ago, there an organizing meeting for Our Revolution PA which I was a part of. Larry Krasner gave a quick speech, and Malcolm Kenyatta and another Senate candidate named Alex Khalil were both in the Zoom call live (Kenyatta gave a very good speech). But Fetterman wasn't there in-person, he only had a quick pre-recorded message. It isn't a big deal for me, but it did seem like Kenyatta cared a lot more about connecting with activists than Fetterman.

Thank you for sharing KhanofKhans. Very interesting, and I like what I see. With Cartwright not running, I think I'm for Fetterman.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

At this point, I’d definitely take Kenyatta over Fetterman.  I don’t think the latter can win the GE against even a B-list Republican given what I’ve seen from Fetterman’s campaign thus far.