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« Reply #6550 on: September 13, 2023, 05:00:48 PM »

OMG now we're really posting stuff from Daily Wire? Sigh...
IIRC it was either the Free Beacon or the Daily Wire that first broke the news of Northam's KKK yearbook photos. This stuff is easily verifiable. Just because an outlet on the other "side" was the first to report it doesn't mean it's false. And once it's been widely corroborated, complaining about the identity of the first to break the news is just pure cope.

Interestingly this time it was the WaPo that got the first dibs on the story.
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« Reply #6551 on: September 13, 2023, 05:21:20 PM »

OMG now we're really posting stuff from Daily Wire? Sigh...
IIRC it was either the Free Beacon or the Daily Wire that first broke the news of Northam's KKK yearbook photos. This stuff is easily verifiable. Just because an outlet on the other "side" was the first to report it doesn't mean it's false. And once it's been widely corroborated, complaining about the identity of the first to break the news is just pure cope.

Interestingly this time it was the WaPo that got the first dibs on the story.
Yep, and the Dems are taking their turn to seethe at the papers for using anonymous sources.

Predictably, the WaPo comments are also full of partisan hacks angry that they would dare publish something that would hurt a Democrat in an election. Lmao.
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« Reply #6552 on: September 14, 2023, 04:24:48 PM »

6 in 10 Americans report viewing porn... This helps Gibson
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« Reply #6553 on: September 14, 2023, 04:39:07 PM »

6 in 10 Americans report viewing porn... This helps Gibson

“Many Americans report enjoying alcohol, so I believe drunkenly crashing his car into the tree will help the incumbent.”
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« Reply #6554 on: September 14, 2023, 05:46:57 PM »

6 in 10 Americans report viewing porn... This helps Gibson

“Many Americans report enjoying alcohol, so I believe drunkenly crashing his car into the tree will help the incumbent.”

Recording sex with you husband is morally the same as drunk driving

Jesus Christ what a take
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« Reply #6555 on: September 15, 2023, 08:48:47 AM »

A government shutdown manufactured by House Republicans will almost certainly help Virginia Democrats in NOVA.
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« Reply #6556 on: September 15, 2023, 12:13:05 PM »

https://www.dailywire.com/news/virginia-democrat-who-raised-money-by-selling-sex-acts-could-be-charged-with-prostitution-lawyers-say
Seems like the GOP operator was basically doing media bait on liberal publications. He could have given it to say the dailywire first but seems he gave it to the AP who not only refused to report it but actually tipped Gibson off.  Seems the WaPo did decide to report it.
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« Reply #6557 on: September 15, 2023, 12:57:36 PM »

https://www.dailywire.com/news/virginia-democrat-who-raised-money-by-selling-sex-acts-could-be-charged-with-prostitution-lawyers-say
Seems like the GOP operator was basically doing media bait on liberal publications. He could have given it to say the dailywire first but seems he gave it to the AP who not only refused to report it but actually tipped Gibson off.  Seems the WaPo did decide to report it.

Good for them
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« Reply #6558 on: September 15, 2023, 04:53:53 PM »

https://www.dailywire.com/news/virginia-democrat-who-raised-money-by-selling-sex-acts-could-be-charged-with-prostitution-lawyers-say
Seems like the GOP operator was basically doing media bait on liberal publications. He could have given it to say the dailywire first but seems he gave it to the AP who not only refused to report it but actually tipped Gibson off.  Seems the WaPo did decide to report it.

Lawyers probably nixed it. Don't know why WaPo decided to run the story
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« Reply #6559 on: September 15, 2023, 10:51:55 PM »

https://www.dailywire.com/news/virginia-democrat-who-raised-money-by-selling-sex-acts-could-be-charged-with-prostitution-lawyers-say
Seems like the GOP operator was basically doing media bait on liberal publications. He could have given it to say the dailywire first but seems he gave it to the AP who not only refused to report it but actually tipped Gibson off.  Seems the WaPo did decide to report it.

Lawyers probably nixed it. Don't know why WaPo decided to run the story

Because the Washington Post has a shred of journalistic ethics.  If the AP sat on this, it really calls their credibility as a news source into question.
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« Reply #6560 on: September 16, 2023, 02:24:15 AM »

Apparently she tried to trick hotel staff into getting themselves flashed by her
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« Reply #6561 on: September 16, 2023, 09:04:06 AM »

https://www.dailywire.com/news/virginia-democrat-who-raised-money-by-selling-sex-acts-could-be-charged-with-prostitution-lawyers-say
Seems like the GOP operator was basically doing media bait on liberal publications. He could have given it to say the dailywire first but seems he gave it to the AP who not only refused to report it but actually tipped Gibson off.  Seems the WaPo did decide to report it.

Lawyers probably nixed it. Don't know why WaPo decided to run the story

Because the Washington Post has a shred of journalistic ethics.  If the AP sat on this, it really calls their credibility as a news source into question.

Actually, the opposite. AP probably realized there was a ton of liability with this story, not to mention it was literally just Republican oppo research. Sounds like AP did the right thing here. Shame on WaPo for publishing it.
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« Reply #6562 on: September 16, 2023, 09:29:27 AM »

I feel extremely confident about these VA elections. Dems are constantly overperforming in low turnout elections so I think it's going to be enough.
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« Reply #6563 on: September 16, 2023, 10:18:00 AM »
« Edited: September 16, 2023, 10:22:55 AM by riverwalk3 »

It looks like Perry has outraised Segura last quarter 2:1 (and in general the rest of the Democrats) - Segura still has an advantage in overall fundraising, but it's shrunk considerably. I'm not sure I would still rate the seat at Lean R.
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« Reply #6564 on: September 16, 2023, 10:24:15 AM »

https://www.dailywire.com/news/virginia-democrat-who-raised-money-by-selling-sex-acts-could-be-charged-with-prostitution-lawyers-say
Seems like the GOP operator was basically doing media bait on liberal publications. He could have given it to say the dailywire first but seems he gave it to the AP who not only refused to report it but actually tipped Gibson off.  Seems the WaPo did decide to report it.

Lawyers probably nixed it. Don't know why WaPo decided to run the story

Because the Washington Post has a shred of journalistic ethics.  If the AP sat on this, it really calls their credibility as a news source into question.

Actually, the opposite. AP probably realized there was a ton of liability with this story, not to mention it was literally just Republican oppo research. Sounds like AP did the right thing here. Shame on WaPo for publishing it.

1) I’ll grant you that this isn’t my area of legal expertise/practice, but based on what I’ve read, I don’t see any legal liability for a news outlet publishing this objectively true story.  The Washington Post was doing its job.  It’s a shame the AP chose not to just because the politician who would be damaged was a Democrat.  Folks who are fine with how the AP handled this have no business criticizing Fox News.  Fox is much worse, but it’s the same underlying issue (okay Fox has a number of them, but the partisan bias is one of them).

2) It may well be Republican opposition research, but that doesn’t make it any less true.  All due respect, but shame on Democrats who don’t recognize how bad this due to their partisan blinders.

3) How have folks on Atlas not learned anything from Katie Hill and Cal Cunningham regarding the political ramifications?  Both their scandals were really bad, but not as bad as this one and yet proved more than enough to sink them.  And yet we have folks breathlessly insisting that this will have no impact on the race or even backfire on Republicans.  And if Gibson somehow wins, then shame on the voters because anyone who does something like this is clearly unfit for office.  And what the hell was that “it was for a good cause” garbage?  Seriously?  That’s really what we’re going with? Roll Eyes
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« Reply #6565 on: September 16, 2023, 10:25:45 AM »

It looks like Perry has outraised Segura last quarter 2:1 (and in general the rest of the Democrats) - Segura still has an advantage in overall fundraising, but it's shrunk considerably. I'm not sure I would still rate the seat at Lean R.

I wouldn’t rate it any better than tossup for Republicans and probably tilt D, especially if there is a government shutdown.
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« Reply #6566 on: September 16, 2023, 10:26:49 AM »

It looks like Perry has outraised Segura last quarter 2:1 (and in general the rest of the Democrats) - Segura still has an advantage in overall fundraising, but it's shrunk considerably. I'm not sure I would still rate the seat at Lean R.

I wouldn’t rate it any better than tossup for Republicans and probably tilt D, especially if there is a government shutdown.
Segura's campaign seems much stronger than Perry's campaign from the ads I've been seeing.

A vast majority of the donation money is 10000+, so what happens in the last quarter is still unpredictable. Segura is also actually spending in the media so far by the reports, while Perry has mostly been spending on voter registration and consulting.
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« Reply #6567 on: September 16, 2023, 11:34:05 AM »

https://www.dailywire.com/news/virginia-democrat-who-raised-money-by-selling-sex-acts-could-be-charged-with-prostitution-lawyers-say
Seems like the GOP operator was basically doing media bait on liberal publications. He could have given it to say the dailywire first but seems he gave it to the AP who not only refused to report it but actually tipped Gibson off.  Seems the WaPo did decide to report it.

Lawyers probably nixed it. Don't know why WaPo decided to run the story

Because the Washington Post has a shred of journalistic ethics.  If the AP sat on this, it really calls their credibility as a news source into question.

I don't think you understand what journalistic ethics are. It's not to report on every single story that is given to you or report stories about candidates to try and influence voters. It's not the job of newspapers to do opposition research and media campaigns for Republicans. No laws were broken.
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« Reply #6568 on: September 16, 2023, 12:56:24 PM »

Based on the new fundraising reports, Chaz Nuttycombe has updated his forecast, most notably with SD-31 now moving from tossup to Tilt D.

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« Reply #6569 on: September 16, 2023, 01:57:47 PM »

https://www.dailywire.com/news/virginia-democrat-who-raised-money-by-selling-sex-acts-could-be-charged-with-prostitution-lawyers-say
Seems like the GOP operator was basically doing media bait on liberal publications. He could have given it to say the dailywire first but seems he gave it to the AP who not only refused to report it but actually tipped Gibson off.  Seems the WaPo did decide to report it.

Lawyers probably nixed it. Don't know why WaPo decided to run the story

Because the Washington Post has a shred of journalistic ethics.  If the AP sat on this, it really calls their credibility as a news source into question.

I don't think you understand what journalistic ethics are. It's not to report on every single story that is given to you or report stories about candidates to try and influence voters. It's not the job of newspapers to do opposition research and media campaigns for Republicans. No laws were broken.

This was a major story that raises extremely serious questions about a candidate’s judgement, integrity, values, and basic fitness for office.  It is absolutely news and respectfully, it’s pretty clear that you only care about journalistic ethics when it’s a story that would make a Republican look bad. 
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« Reply #6570 on: September 16, 2023, 06:00:48 PM »

https://www.dailywire.com/news/virginia-democrat-who-raised-money-by-selling-sex-acts-could-be-charged-with-prostitution-lawyers-say
Seems like the GOP operator was basically doing media bait on liberal publications. He could have given it to say the dailywire first but seems he gave it to the AP who not only refused to report it but actually tipped Gibson off.  Seems the WaPo did decide to report it.

Lawyers probably nixed it. Don't know why WaPo decided to run the story

Because the Washington Post has a shred of journalistic ethics.  If the AP sat on this, it really calls their credibility as a news source into question.

Actually, the opposite. AP probably realized there was a ton of liability with this story, not to mention it was literally just Republican oppo research. Sounds like AP did the right thing here. Shame on WaPo for publishing it.

The job of a newspaper is to publish newsworthy things. The job of opposition researchers is to find newsworthy things about the opposing candidate that make said candidate look bad.

The media is not obligated to carry water for your political party. Take off your partisan hat for once, please.
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« Reply #6571 on: September 16, 2023, 07:25:25 PM »

Based on the new fundraising reports, Chaz Nuttycombe has updated his forecast, most notably with SD-31 now moving from tossup to Tilt D.



Hmmm... If Dems do get SD-31 to vote meaningfully left of the state (like it did for Biden in 2020), that's basically the ballgame in the state senate.
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« Reply #6572 on: September 16, 2023, 08:02:22 PM »

Apparently Joe Szymanski has access to some internals. It would be interesting to see what they say.

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« Reply #6573 on: September 16, 2023, 09:04:37 PM »

https://www.dailywire.com/news/virginia-democrat-who-raised-money-by-selling-sex-acts-could-be-charged-with-prostitution-lawyers-say
Seems like the GOP operator was basically doing media bait on liberal publications. He could have given it to say the dailywire first but seems he gave it to the AP who not only refused to report it but actually tipped Gibson off.  Seems the WaPo did decide to report it.

Lawyers probably nixed it. Don't know why WaPo decided to run the story

Because the Washington Post has a shred of journalistic ethics.  If the AP sat on this, it really calls their credibility as a news source into question.

I don't think you understand what journalistic ethics are. It's not to report on every single story that is given to you or report stories about candidates to try and influence voters. It's not the job of newspapers to do opposition research and media campaigns for Republicans. No laws were broken.

This was a major story that raises extremely serious questions about a candidate’s judgement, integrity, values, and basic fitness for office.  It is absolutely news and respectfully, it’s pretty clear that you only care about journalistic ethics when it’s a story that would make a Republican look bad. 

LOL absolutely not. This was two consenting adults who are married to each other. If you disagree with their "integrity and values" then this is a whole different issue that you are clearly projecting onto. This is like saying a porn star or sex worker can't run for office because they theres questions about their "basic fitness" for office and their "values"? No. This isn't 1925.
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« Reply #6574 on: September 16, 2023, 09:26:15 PM »

https://www.dailywire.com/news/virginia-democrat-who-raised-money-by-selling-sex-acts-could-be-charged-with-prostitution-lawyers-say
Seems like the GOP operator was basically doing media bait on liberal publications. He could have given it to say the dailywire first but seems he gave it to the AP who not only refused to report it but actually tipped Gibson off.  Seems the WaPo did decide to report it.

Lawyers probably nixed it. Don't know why WaPo decided to run the story

Because the Washington Post has a shred of journalistic ethics.  If the AP sat on this, it really calls their credibility as a news source into question.

I don't think you understand what journalistic ethics are. It's not to report on every single story that is given to you or report stories about candidates to try and influence voters. It's not the job of newspapers to do opposition research and media campaigns for Republicans. No laws were broken.

This was a major story that raises extremely serious questions about a candidate’s judgement, integrity, values, and basic fitness for office. It is absolutely news and respectfully, it’s pretty clear that you only care about journalistic ethics when it’s a story that would make a Republican look bad.  

LOL absolutely not. This was two consenting adults who are married to each other. If you disagree with their "integrity and values" then this is a whole different issue that you are clearly projecting onto. This is like saying a porn star or sex worker can't run for office because they theres questions about their "basic fitness" for office and their "values"? No. This isn't 1925.

Actually, yeah, whether you like that or not. This absolutely would (and should) be a major discussion in such a case, and not without good reason.
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