AOC is the enemy of the Democratic party

[TopShelfGoal]

So in the aftermath of the election AOC's instinct is to attack other Democrats:

https://twitter.com/HotlineJosh/status/1325248866803965952

She has the AUDACITY to attack Connor Lamb who has won multiple times in a Trump district and is on path to another win. How about AOC swap seats with Connor Lamb and try to run in that district instead of Brooklyn and see how it turns out? If these "justice 'democrats'" had their way they'd rather have an ideologically pure but forever be in a minority rather than try to be a majority party.

The reality is that AOC and her irresponsible allies probably cost Democrats seats and votes in the election. These are the last people that should be lecturing the party and the fact that their response instead of showing humility is to double down says it all.

Jim Clyburn said that the Democrats should not be talking about "de-funding the police" or "socialism" to win elections. Clyburn was the man who helped picked Biden and secured the presidency, his political advice is what the Ds should be listening instead of out of touch folks like AOC and Omar who couldn't even match Biden's number in their own districts. Sad!

[ProgressiveModerate]

My position on her is that she brings up issues that need to be discussed, but I think her messaging and the way she comes off can be quite poor. However, the last thing I want to do is get into in-party fight about who cost seats. Let's go into the GA runoffs and this Presidency as a united party, and a united country.

[lfromnj]

She's about to enter a house with say a 223 D majority and she's trying as hard as she can to piss off 6 ds she needs for her ideas.

[TiltsAreUnderrated]

She's about to enter a house with say a 6 d majority and she's trying as hard as she can to piss off 6 ds she needs for her ideas.

As with the Freedom Caucus, there's value in playing the long game. Unfortunately, she doesn't seem to be playing that very well either.

[Bootes Void]

Luckily the focus should be On Biden not AOC as the head of the party for the next 8 years. These people have really inflated egos, even Bernie doesnt do this sh**t to his own members.

[GeneralMacArthur]

My position on her is that she brings up issues that need to be discussed

Yeah, nobody was talking about protecting illegal aliens or global warming before AOC came along to poison the well in both of those debates with #AbolishIce and #GreenNewDeal.

What frustrates me is that global warming should be an easily winning argument for us, but nowadays whenever we try to talk about it in a debate, Republicans can just shout "you want the Green New Deal!  You want the Green New Deal!" and the conversation becomes the Democrat denying that they want the Green New Deal.

Same thing with Medicare For All.  Health care is such a winning argument for us, but now Republicans can turn the conversation into a referendum on M4A and put Democrats on defense, so we can't get the message through about a public option and Obamacare.

[Bojack Horseman]

If it wasn’t Trump and was Kasich or Cruz running I actually wouldn’t have minded Bernie getting the nominee so that he would get blown off the field and take our House majority down with him so that we can get rid of Left Wing Sarah Palin and her Reddit friends.

[GoTfan]

Lots of tolerant moderates in this thread.

[Hindsight was 2020]

My position on her is that she brings up issues that need to be discussed

Yeah, nobody was talking about protecting illegal aliens or global warming before AOC came along to poison the well in both of those debates with #AbolishIce and #GreenNewDeal.

What frustrates me is that global warming should be an easily winning argument for us, but nowadays whenever we try to talk about it in a debate, Republicans can just shout "you want the Green New Deal!  You want the Green New Deal!" and the conversation becomes the Democrat denying that they want the Green New Deal.

Same thing with Medicare For All.  Health care is such a winning argument for us, but now Republicans can turn the conversation into a referendum on M4A and put Democrats on defense, so we can't get the message through about a public option and Obamacare.

But Republicans were doing that before AOC! Why are you blaming her for the right arguing in bad faith

[Hammy]

Congratulations Democrats, you're now on par with Donald Trump where dissent is forbidden. Enjoy losing elections in the future and losing your minds wondering why people see both parties as the same

[ProgressiveModerate]

My position on her is that she brings up issues that need to be discussed

Yeah, nobody was talking about protecting illegal aliens or global warming before AOC came along to poison the well in both of those debates with #AbolishIce and #GreenNewDeal.

What frustrates me is that global warming should be an easily winning argument for us, but nowadays whenever we try to talk about it in a debate, Republicans can just shout "you want the Green New Deal!  You want the Green New Deal!" and the conversation becomes the Democrat denying that they want the Green New Deal.

Same thing with Medicare For All.  Health care is such a winning argument for us, but now Republicans can turn the conversation into a referendum on M4A and put Democrats on defense, so we can't get the message through about a public option and Obamacare.

I agree with you; it's an issue of messaging. Ultimately her goals and the goals of much of the Democratic Party are very simillar, if not the same, and going out of your way to create a divide where one may not be needed isn't helpful, especially since it creates something the right w8ing media can latch onto. The Democratic Party is a very diverse coalition of voters, so while it's great to come at issues from different perspectives, at the end of the day, we all have to stand united.

Many of the goals that she wants to achieve are going to take compromise anyways, with those who she may disagree with, and with Democrats in red senate seats/congressional districts. If we institute any sort of ideological filter into the Democratic Party, we will struggle to win elections and be able to do anything. Politics is about compromise and coalition building, and it seems like she's started to learn that lesson a little bit.

[Pyro]

AOC: Dems should invest more in digital.

Moderates: AoC iS tHe EnEmY

[Rookie Yinzer]

I am worried about these two Senate seats in Georgia.

[Progressive Pessimist]

I am worried about these two Senate seats in Georgia.

Now you have me worried! You were so right about Georgia this year, so I'm taking you seriously here.

[GoTfan]

My position on her is that she brings up issues that need to be discussed

Yeah, nobody was talking about protecting illegal aliens or global warming before AOC came along to poison the well in both of those debates with #AbolishIce and #GreenNewDeal.

What frustrates me is that global warming should be an easily winning argument for us, but nowadays whenever we try to talk about it in a debate, Republicans can just shout "you want the Green New Deal!  You want the Green New Deal!" and the conversation becomes the Democrat denying that they want the Green New Deal.

Same thing with Medicare For All.  Health care is such a winning argument for us, but now Republicans can turn the conversation into a referendum on M4A and put Democrats on defense, so we can't get the message through about a public option and Obamacare.

I agree with you; it's an issue of messaging. Ultimately her goals and the goals of much of the Democratic Party are very simillar, if not the same, and going out of your way to create a divide where one may not be needed isn't helpful, especially since it creates something the right w8ing media can latch onto. The Democratic Party is a very diverse coalition of voters, so while it's great to come at issues from different, at the end of the day, we all have to stand united.

OP literally called us the enemy of the Democratic Party.

[TopShelfGoal]

If it wasn’t Trump and was Kasich or Cruz running I actually wouldn’t have minded Bernie getting the nominee so that he would get blown off the field and take our House majority down with him so that we can get rid of Left Wing Sarah Palin and her Reddit friends.

100%. I wish some wealthy Democratic donor would organize a campaign to primary all these so called "Justice Democrats" and get rid of them in favor of saner people. I want them all out of congress. I remember  when people like Al Franken or Dennis Kucinich were representing "the left" in congress and we never had any of these bozo outbreaks with them saying dumb things or embracing politically unpopular ideas that hurt other Democrats in competitive districts/states.

The fact that they ran so far behind Biden in extremely liberal CDs and still have no humility tells me everything I need to know about these people.

[WD]

My position on her is that she brings up issues that need to be discussed

Yeah, nobody was talking about protecting illegal aliens or global warming before AOC came along to poison the well in both of those debates with #AbolishIce and #GreenNewDeal.

What frustrates me is that global warming should be an easily winning argument for us, but nowadays whenever we try to talk about it in a debate, Republicans can just shout "you want the Green New Deal!  You want the Green New Deal!" and the conversation becomes the Democrat denying that they want the Green New Deal.

Same thing with Medicare For All.  Health care is such a winning argument for us, but now Republicans can turn the conversation into a referendum on M4A and put Democrats on defense, so we can't get the message through about a public option and Obamacare.

But Republicans were doing that before AOC! Why are you blaming her for the right arguing in bad faith

Because she only gives them more ammunition and makes things worse.

[Roronoa D. Law]

I think many in the party don't really have a problem with AOC policies per se. I think they don't like the fact that she has a tendency of following the limelight. She's also not really good at explaining what she supports and it leaves an opening for Republicans to misinterpret what she says in what seems like at the expense of swing seat Dems.

[Beet]

Attacking AOC isn't helpful. The Democrats should be a big tent. There's an AOC wing and there's a Conor Lamb wing. They can both coexist.

[ProgressiveModerate]

Attacking AOC isn't helpful. The Democrats should be a big tent. There's an AOC wing and there's a Conor Lamb wing. They can both coexist.

Something we actually agree on! Nice!

[GoTfan]

Moderates before the elecrion: Unity! Heal the wounds! Bind the nation! MUH COALITION!!!!

Moderates after the election: AOC AND HER SUPPORTERS MUST BE THROWN INTO THE CAMPS

[Progressive Pessimist]

Attacking AOC isn't helpful. The Democrats should be a big tent. There's an AOC wing and there's a Conor Lamb wing. They can both coexist.

Agreed. We have to figure out that balance still apparently. Biden certainly succeeded in attracting both types of Democratic voters, but then again that might be due more to anti-Trump sentiment. Democrats seem to unite better against things than for. Maybe McConnell can be our new focus of ire. He certainly deserves it as much.

[T'Chenka]

AOC worships concepts, she doesn't follow kings (/queens).

She is trying to scare the Democrats into not being corporate centrist Republican-Lites, and she's using the voters and the threat of primaries to do so. Is she an enemy of the Democratic Party officials? Yes. Is she an enemy of the Democratic Party as a whole, 99% of which are voters and not representatives? Not at all.

[TopShelfGoal]

But Republicans were doing that before AOC! Why are you blaming her for the right arguing in bad faith

Because attacks are much harder to defend yourself from when some people in your party are openly embracing those points. The most striking example of this was when during the debates Biden was coming out in support of fracking, AOC started tweeting about how fracking is bad. Like what exactly did that accomplish to contradict the message of the nominee of her party? It was incredibly selfish and showed no respect for Biden/Harris and all the Democratic members of the house fighting for their lives in TX/OK/NM/PA. It is much harder for these folks to defend themselves when Republicans can point to literature from AOC and try to tie them with that.

On the same account her ilk also equivocate their opposition to dumb and politically disastrous positions like "Defund the police" and "All cops are bad" which makes Republican attacks all the more easier.

[Starry Eyed Jagaloon]

Attacking AOC isn't helpful. The Democrats should be a big tent. There's an AOC wing and there's a Conor Lamb wing. They can both coexist.

That's true but we have to have unified messaging. Internal disagreement should not make it's way to the press--let along happen on Twitter. Disagreement with leadership should be saved for personal conversations. Words that don't help move their agenda forwards and make great fodder for Republican ads like "abolish", "Democratic-socialist", and "defund" should be completely blacklisted. Is it really too much to ask every representative to stick to their talking points?