Biden approval ratings thread, 1.0

[BG-NY]

IA-Selzer

9/12-9/15 (changes from June)
31% approve (-12)
62% disapprove (+10)

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/iowa-poll/2021/09/21/president-joe-biden-job-approval-rating-plunges-after-afghanistan-covid-surge/8378224002/

This state is so gone for Democrats it’s not even funny. Could see it voting 15-16 points to the right of the nation in 2024 (it was 11 points more R than the nation in 2020).

Yikes!

[Bootes Void]

I remember many democrats over the past decade claiming non college whites in Iowa will never vote like non college whites in the south because they are less religious, less racist, more liberal etc, if Biden really is in the low 30’s in Iowa, non college whites in Iowa might start voting like southern whites.

Biden did win 39% of the non college white vote in Iowa, this is much much higher than anywhere in the south

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

IA-Selzer

9/12-9/15 (changes from June)
31% approve (-12)
62% disapprove (+10)

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/iowa-poll/2021/09/21/president-joe-biden-job-approval-rating-plunges-after-afghanistan-covid-surge/8378224002/

This state is so gone for Democrats it’s not even funny. Could see it voting 15-16 points to the right of the nation in 2024 (it was 11 points more R than the nation in 2020).

Yikes!

Biden is MIA on Debt Ceiling and they might have to give up their 4=7T dream of spending bill to raise the Debt Ceiling increase until after the Midterms

Manchin and Sinema aren't going to give up the Filibuster on Debt ceiling but for VR yeah

Govt cannot default on the debt
Told you Biden is a disappointment, what happened to his inauguration that he gets along well with Rs and can move them, everything has gone thru party line votes on Reconciliation

There hasn't been one bill passed with 60 votes

[Annatar]

I remember many democrats over the past decade claiming non college whites in Iowa will never vote like non college whites in the south because they are less religious, less racist, more liberal etc, if Biden really is in the low 30’s in Iowa, non college whites in Iowa might start voting like southern whites.

Biden did win 39% of the non college white vote in Iowa, this is much much higher than anywhere in the south

Yes he did, that is why him being at 31% approval implies that 2024 might be when non college whites in Iowa vote like southern ones.

[Obama-Biden Democrat]

Virginia: PPP, Sep. 17-18, 875 voters

Approve 47
Disapprove 46

In the governor's race, McAuliffe (D) leads Youngkin (R) 45-42.

Not a big crossover from 2020 with Youngkin not really winning over Biden supporters. I think this will be over 6% in the end.

The pollsters are going to be humiliated in Virginia the same way as they did in California. The Democrats are going to win by at least 6%.

[Bootes Void]

I remember many democrats over the past decade claiming non college whites in Iowa will never vote like non college whites in the south because they are less religious, less racist, more liberal etc, if Biden really is in the low 30’s in Iowa, non college whites in Iowa might start voting like southern whites.

Biden did win 39% of the non college white vote in Iowa, this is much much higher than anywhere in the south

Yes he did, that is why him being at 31% approval implies that 2024 might be when non college whites in Iowa vote like southern ones.

even if you believe he is at 31% approval(which I dont btw), Biden is very much going through a rough patch of his presidency( foreign policy, weakening economy, delta wave, no infastructure bill yet) but things will most likely get better from here. Dont make assumptions of 2024 yet.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

I remember many democrats over the past decade claiming non college whites in Iowa will never vote like non college whites in the south because they are less religious, less racist, more liberal etc, if Biden really is in the low 30’s in Iowa, non college whites in Iowa might start voting like southern whites.

Biden did win 39% of the non college white vote in Iowa, this is much much higher than anywhere in the south

Yes he did, that is why him being at 31% approval implies that 2024 might be when non college whites in Iowa vote like southern ones.

even if you believe he is at 31% approval(which I dont btw), Biden is very much going through a rough patch of his presidency( foreign policy, weakening economy, delta wave, no infastructure bill yet) but things will most likely get better from here. Dont make assumptions of 2024 yet.

Buden might not even get his 4.7T dollar domestic agenda passed, Rs aren't going nna lift the debt Ceiling or fund the Govt to pay for D's Reconciliation Bill

The Southern Border that Harris was supposed to be in charge of is disasterous and D's want an amnesty bill

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Harris has been running for Prez the whole time but haven't done her job at the border and Beto wants to be Gov of TX he will lose

[wbrocks67]

The Economist/YouGov weekly tracker, Sep. 18-21, 1500 adults including 1281 RV


Adults:

Approve 43 (-1)
Disapprove 46 (-2)

Strongly approve 18 (-2)
Strongly disapprove 35 (-2)


RV:

Approve 46 (=)
Disapprove 48 (-1)

Strongly approve 21 (-2)
Strongly disapprove 39 (=)

https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/h4zvi2yb6c/econTabReport.pdf

[wbrocks67]

Gallup, September 1-17 (compared to Aug 2-17)

Approve 43 (-6)
Disapprove 53 (+5)

https://news.gallup.com/poll/329384/presidential-approval-ratings-joe-biden.aspx

[Matty]

From Gallup -- " among elected presidents since World War II, only Trump has had a lower job approval rating than Biden does at a similar point in their presidencies."

[wbrocks67]

From Gallup -- " among elected presidents since World War II, only Trump has had a lower job approval rating than Biden does at a similar point in their presidencies."

Besides the fact that context is key here and we knew Biden had a rough patch (appears to be stabilizing now), it's essentially a futile effort at this point to compare anything to basically before the W/Obama years, when polarization really started kicking in.

[Ferguson97]

From Gallup -- " among elected presidents since World War II, only Trump has had a lower job approval rating than Biden does at a similar point in their presidencies."

And the same will be true for Presidents Harris, DeSantis, Mandel, and Buttigieg.

We live in polarized times.

[MR DARK BRANDON]

Gallup, September 1-17 (compared to Aug 2-17)

Approve 43 (-6)
Disapprove 53 (+5)

https://news.gallup.com/poll/329384/presidential-approval-ratings-joe-biden.aspx

One outlier cancels out another one

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Again we are looking at Approvals with 14 mnths left all Ds have to do is hold the 304 blue wall and a blue wave will follow

Delta cases are going down and Delta, not Covid will be over by next Nov, stop worrying about approvals a yr before the Election it's not time to vote in Midterms yet

14 mnths, Rs haven't cracked the Blue wall since 2016

THESE APPROVAL ARE NOT THE END ALL BE ALL

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Whitmer down again

50/44 to Craig a Red wave incoming if this rush and Roulette with Debt Ceiling and Budget shutdown continues, Pelosi would be ousted a Speaker, Speaker, not McConnell gets blamed and Sununu and Laxalt already ahead and Youngkin is inching ahead of TMAC

BUT, BUT, BUT, Obama and Clyburn told us that Biden was best suited for job and he told us Biden that he was bipartisan and Hunter has all but disappeared since inauguration day. He will be investigated if Rs take control, Pelosi have shielded him, but good news is the Election is 14 Mnths away, told you Hunter is corrupted at least a silver lining if Rs do take control, he will finally be investigated

https://thetrafalgargroup.org/MI-Gov-Sept-Poll-Report.pdf


Mcconnell says to Ds don't play or toy with debt ceiling and okay Rush and Roulette, step up and pay for your spending


But, if we do have a Govt shutdown, SSA checks, and Govt payroll, and 300 child tax credit will all be nackpaid fir the time missed, that's good news

[wbrocks67]

Virginia: PPP, Sep. 17-18, 875 voters

Approve 47
Disapprove 46

In the governor's race, McAuliffe (D) leads Youngkin (R) 45-42.

Not a big crossover from 2020 with Youngkin not really winning over Biden supporters. I think this will be over 6% in the end.

The pollsters are going to be humiliated in Virginia the same way as they did in California. The Democrats are going to win by at least 6%.

Yeah, it's possible pollsters need to step away from the "LV model" in years like this, after many got it terribly wrong in CA.

[wbrocks67]

Marquette national, Sept 7-16

Approve 48
Disapprove 52

https://law.marquette.edu/poll/2021/09/23/new-marquette-law-school-poll-finds-strong-partisan-divisions-on-afghanistan-covid-policies-and-election-results/

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Virginia: PPP, Sep. 17-18, 875 voters

Approve 47
Disapprove 46

In the governor's race, McAuliffe (D) leads Youngkin (R) 45-42.

Not a big crossover from 2020 with Youngkin not really winning over Biden supporters. I think this will be over 6% in the end.

The pollsters are going to be humiliated in Virginia the same way as they did in California. The Democrats are going to win by at least 6%.

Yeah, it's possible pollsters need to step away from the "LV model" in years like this, after many got it terribly wrong in CA.

A Govt Shutdown in a Give State like VA would he bad for Ds

[Sir Mohamed]

Perhaps not a popular take, BUT: If these numbers are in the same territory in early 2023, Biden might actually decide not to seek reelection. We're probably going to lose the majority in at least the House next year, leading to complete legislative stalemate. I mean, we're already struggling to get things through congress. Never since Truman has a reelected prez manage to win back majorities. So why should Biden, in his early 80s, continue to hang around for another 4 stressful years and not get much done since the GOP will continue to refuse to pass meaningful laws? His main purpose to jump in the race last was to remove Mr. Trump from power, which he did. Of course Trump running again may change his calculation.

[Mr.Phips]

Perhaps not a popular take, BUT: If these numbers are in the same territory in early 2023, Biden might actually decide not to seek reelection. We're probably going to lose the majority in at least the House next year, leading to complete legislative stalemate. I mean, we're already struggling to get things through congress. Never since Truman has a reelected prez manage to win back majorities. So why should Biden, in his early 80s, continue to hang around for another 4 stressful years and not get much done since the GOP will continue to refuse to pass meaningful laws? His main purpose to jump in the race last was to remove Mr. Trump from power, which he did. Of course Trump running again may change his calculation.

If I were Biden in this situation, I’d just say let the country have Trump in 2024.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Perhaps not a popular take, BUT: If these numbers are in the same territory in early 2023, Biden might actually decide not to seek reelection. We're probably going to lose the majority in at least the House next year, leading to complete legislative stalemate. I mean, we're already struggling to get things through congress. Never since Truman has a reelected prez manage to win back majorities. So why should Biden, in his early 80s, continue to hang around for another 4 stressful years and not get much done since the GOP will continue to refuse to pass meaningful laws? His main purpose to jump in the race last was to remove Mr. Trump from power, which he did. Of course Trump running again may change his calculation.

If I were Biden in this situation, I’d just say let the country have Trump in 2024.

We did that already in 2000 and GWBush was a terrible Prez and we lost the 2002 Midterm big

Remember the country gave us Bush W and we didn't finish counting votes in FL and he lead us into 911

IF you look at Senate map in 2024 we aren't gonna lose Klobuchar, Warren,, Casey, Kaine, Stabenow and Sinema aren't losing

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Perhaps not a popular take, BUT: If these numbers are in the same territory in early 2023, Biden might actually decide not to seek reelection. We're probably going to lose the majority in at least the House next year, leading to complete legislative stalemate. I mean, we're already struggling to get things through congress. Never since Truman has a reelected prez manage to win back majorities. So why should Biden, in his early 80s, continue to hang around for another 4 stressful years and not get much done since the GOP will continue to refuse to pass meaningful laws? His main purpose to jump in the race last was to remove Mr. Trump from power, which he did. Of course Trump running again may change his calculation.

If I were Biden in this situation, I’d just say let the country have Trump in 2024.

It's 14 in mnths til Election it's not over with

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Another thing on this, it's not Biden, it's Manchin and Sinema, they're protecting the Filibuster and Biden agenda on VR, police reform, Immigration reform and Spending is all being obstructed by Rs

If  Re get back empowered they are gonna deny D's Amendment to bills and Rs are gonna pretend Covid doesn't exist like TRUMP

Do you remember the BOEHNER YRS HE RESIGNED HE WAX THROWN OUT IN FAVOR OF Paul Ryan


McCarthy will run the H like Boehner, that isn't a solution to our problems

[Matty]

Pew

Approve 44 (-11)
Disapprove 53 (+10)

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2021/09/23/biden-loses-ground-with-the-public-on-issues-personal-traits-and-job-approval/