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« Reply #850 on: November 15, 2022, 04:43:08 AM »

Do we know how much of Apache and Pima are still out? I think Dems are likely to retain the narrow lead in the Attorney General race if those still have batches out. Possibly flip Superintendent back too.

Attorney General matters in terms of stopping Hamadeh, an election denier, in his tracks.
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« Reply #851 on: November 15, 2022, 06:32:31 AM »

Lake, Michels and Mastriano saying they won't certify 24 backfires
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« Reply #852 on: November 15, 2022, 07:45:47 AM »

Do we know how much of Apache and Pima are still out? I think Dems are likely to retain the narrow lead in the Attorney General race if those still have batches out. Possibly flip Superintendent back too.

Attorney General matters in terms of stopping Hamadeh, an election denier, in his tracks.

The Deputy SOS on CNN said there was about 20k out in both Maricopa and Pima each while there was only a 'handful' left in a few other rural counties.
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« Reply #853 on: November 15, 2022, 09:34:14 AM »

Do we know how much of Apache and Pima are still out? I think Dems are likely to retain the narrow lead in the Attorney General race if those still have batches out. Possibly flip Superintendent back too.

Attorney General matters in terms of stopping Hamadeh, an election denier, in his tracks.

The Deputy SOS on CNN said there was about 20k out in both Maricopa and Pima each while there was only a 'handful' left in a few other rural counties.

Per the SOS' website there are 6767 ballots out in Apache but also about 8000 out of Pinal
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« Reply #854 on: November 15, 2022, 09:51:42 AM »

The meltdown on twitter over this result is delicious. Lot of conservative big accounts were already convinced before election that Lake was next big star, future president etc and now are shocked that she lost
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« Reply #855 on: November 15, 2022, 09:54:25 AM »

Mark Finchem is making the same kind of posts but at a much higher volume.

Case in point:


(Mark Finchem has made or shared 85 posts on Twitter in the past 15 hours.)

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« Reply #856 on: November 15, 2022, 10:12:13 AM »

Like I said in another thread, I think it was also underrated that Hobbs was a known, competent, commodity. She wasn't as flashy as Lake was, but people knew her from 2020 and how she defended AZ as SOS. I think that definitely was worth something given her opponent was a literal election denier.

Also, I still don't buy the "Hobbs was running a terrible campaign." Just because the press decided to focus ALL on Lake and never on Hobbs doesn't mean Hobbs was doing nothing. She was out there all the time doing campaign stops - it just never got covered because the press was obsessed with nothing but Lake.
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« Reply #857 on: November 15, 2022, 10:20:34 AM »

Trafalgar and Emerson again had Lake, LAXALT and Johnson ahead so that was bad polling by the two of those POLLSTER
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« Reply #858 on: November 15, 2022, 10:20:42 AM »

It's kind of pathetic how all these MAGA candidates try to imitate the orange buffoon that they even use @real... as Twitter username. Someone tell me that isn't a cult of personality.
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« Reply #859 on: November 15, 2022, 11:48:00 AM »

I am happy that Hobbs won..but just because Hobbs won doesn't necessarily mean she ran a great campaign. Her favorables were meh and she just came across a bland boring candidate..this election for me looked more like it was about Lake and in the end Lake acted bit too crazily and ended up losing. I think Hobbs would have lost if Lake acted just slightly more sanely.

I would like to get any insight from Arizonians here on this race and my assessment.

Watch Hobbs turn out to be an amazing governor with presidential buzz after all this lol.

Sometimes greatness comes from the people you least expect, after all. Harry Truman is Exhibit A, and this was certainly a Truman-esque win on her part.

Her appearance will be made fun of....Kari Lake is more attractive........

Not that physical appearance is relevant, but Hobbs is much more attractive

Not that it should matter, but it unfortunately probably subtly does—I do not think Hobbs would have won if she had the haircut she had in 2018. Her growing out her hair probably mattered subconsciously.

Yeah it was a pretty crazy glow up, she looks like she lost some weight too.

It's very unfortunate that physical appearance could theoretically sink someone's campaign, and I imagine this is particularly likely to impact women (see: Chris Christie, Trump winning).
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« Reply #860 on: November 15, 2022, 12:01:36 PM »

Knives are deservedly out for Kelli Ward:
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« Reply #861 on: November 15, 2022, 12:09:13 PM »

Knives are deservedly out for Kelli Ward:


They’ll probably respond by giving going even nuttier.
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« Reply #862 on: November 15, 2022, 12:09:41 PM »

Yeah, Hobbs looks like 15 years younger than she did in 2018. It's kind of insane what losing some weight and a new haircut can do. I was even shocked to see that she was 53. She looked it in 2018 but not at all now.
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« Reply #863 on: November 15, 2022, 02:04:09 PM »

Abe Hamadeh is only down by less than 3,000 Votes now to Kris Mayes.
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« Reply #864 on: November 15, 2022, 03:09:18 PM »

Abe Hamadeh is only down by less than 3,000 Votes now to Kris Mayes.

Votes remaining, not all will be counted cause votes waiting to be cured are included in the totals, and not all will be.

At worst, Maricopa and the Dem counties cancel out, lead remains tight, recount for this and the Superintendent races is guaranteed.
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« Reply #865 on: November 15, 2022, 03:20:22 PM »

I'll say Katie Hobbs pulls through.

Got this one right.
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« Reply #866 on: November 15, 2022, 03:21:31 PM »

Im stunned Hobbs pulled it off given the campaign she ran. There is hope for this country. I am glad to have been wrong about this election.
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« Reply #867 on: November 15, 2022, 03:26:45 PM »

Will Doug Ducey run in 2026?
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« Reply #868 on: November 15, 2022, 04:14:18 PM »

Breaking:
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« Reply #869 on: November 15, 2022, 04:41:44 PM »

AZ Attorney Generals Race

Kris Mayes (D) 1,236,908
Abraham Hamadeh (R) 1,235,395

Difference: 1,513

Mayes better hope he has a good "Curing" Team otherwise Hamadeh might win this.
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« Reply #870 on: November 15, 2022, 05:33:51 PM »

AZ Attorney Generals Race

Kris Mayes (D) 1,236,908
Abraham Hamadeh (R) 1,235,395

Difference: 1,513

Mayes better hope he has a good "Curing" Team otherwise Hamadeh might win this.

Mayes is a woman
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« Reply #871 on: November 15, 2022, 06:05:32 PM »

Yeah, Hobbs looks like 15 years younger than she did in 2018. It's kind of insane what losing some weight and a new haircut can do. I was even shocked to see that she was 53. She looked it in 2018 but not at all now.

For as much attention as Lake has gotten for her looks, Hobbs certainly did lose weight and looks conventionally much more attractive now. I think that did play a small role.
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« Reply #872 on: November 15, 2022, 06:06:45 PM »

AZ Attorney Generals Race

Kris Mayes (D) 1,236,908
Abraham Hamadeh (R) 1,235,395

Difference: 1,513

Mayes better hope he has a good "Curing" Team otherwise Hamadeh might win this.

Maybe they can borrow the Culinary Union curing team from Nevada. Smiley
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« Reply #873 on: November 15, 2022, 06:08:52 PM »



Garrett goes on to say that there are about 6K votes left in Apache County, which are expected to be mostly tribal votes (heavily D).  If this is the case, he estimates Hamadeh needs about 60% of the remaining Maricopa votes to feel comfortable.
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« Reply #874 on: November 15, 2022, 06:44:54 PM »

Here is a text verbatim my mom sent me while she was watching the news and Hobbs was declared the victor:

"I hate this word and don't like to use it but I'm glad that Kari Lake c*** lost!"

I guess it's clear to you now where I get my potty mouth from.

Anyway, Hobbs' victory is tied with Fetterman's when it comes to the most satisfying victories of the cycle. And I guess that makes sense since both of these elections were probably the marquee races of the year (I suppose the Georgia Senate race is up there too though, and obviously it will be great to see Walker lose, as looks feasible).
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