Arizona megathread

[wbrocks67]

AZ-Gov: Katie Hobbs (D): $5.3 million raised (July 17-Sept. 30), $1.7 million cash-on-hand; Kari Lake (R): $3.6 million raised, $1.8 million cash-on-hand

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/10/18/2129568/-Morning-Digest-Democrats-could-win-this-major-suburban-Chicago-county-for-the-first-time-in-decades

Interesting that Lake is dealing with the same fundraising issues that Masters and other GOP'ers are.

[wbrocks67]

https://twitter.com/katiehobbs/status/1582508888405946369

[citizenZ]

https://twitter.com/KariLake/status/1582403573811318784

Holy cow. She puts the press into a trance. This woman is something else. Not only will she probably win (and put Arizona's 11 electoral votes back to the GOP in '24) but she probably has a bright national future herself.

[Calthrina950]

https://twitter.com/KariLake/status/1582403573811318784

Holy cow. She puts the press into a trance. This woman is something else. Not only will she probably win (and put Arizona's 11 electoral votes back to the GOP in '24) but she probably has a bright national future herself.

Democrats boosted Lake in the primary - as they did many other MAGA candidates - because they were confident that they could beat her in the general. It's backfiring on them now. She certainly was underestimated.

[ProgressiveModerate]

One thing I'm curious about is at heart, is Kari Lake a true MAGA loyalists or just an opportunist?

It's important to remember that before she really got involved seriously in politics, she was actually relatively moderate if not slightly liberal. This can be shown by her previous support for Obama and also the LGBTQ community.

I'm not sure if one is more dangerous than the other but if she's an opportunist, god hope she at least has a few ounces of common sanity left in her.

[Senator Incitatus]

MSNBC is dedicating an entire early morning block to Lake, apparently basically conceding that she will win and trying to stave off a Lake presidency. Exaggeration, but the host struggled to find anything nice to say about Hobbs.

[wbrocks67]

https://twitter.com/KariLake/status/1582403573811318784

Holy cow. She puts the press into a trance. This woman is something else. Not only will she probably win (and put Arizona's 11 electoral votes back to the GOP in '24) but she probably has a bright national future herself.

Democrats boosted Lake in the primary - as they did many other MAGA candidates - because they were confident that they could beat her in the general. It's backfiring on them now. She certainly was underestimated.

How is it backfiring? lol, I guess everyone will see what they want to see, but Lake is literally handing out flyers and bringing election denial back into the forefront by making flimsy "both sides" arguments.

How is this supposed to help her with Independents?

Also think it's pretty funny how Democrats get the shaft typically in "why are they not talking about the right issues?" Why is Lake bringing out flyers talking about Hillary Clinton 3 weeks out from the election? Is that voters care about? It's clearly more a diversion than anything.

[citizenZ]

MSNBC is dedicating an entire early morning block to Lake, apparently basically conceding that she will win and trying to stave off a Lake presidency. Exaggeration, but the host struggled to find anything nice to say about Hobbs.

It's interesting how mainstream she makes denying an election sound. This is how the right started with things like "building a wall" or the "muslim ban". It sounds insane but the more they say it, to some, it begins to sound rational. 

[US Politics Fanatic]

Some people say Lake/Kelly voters will be mostly non college whites and hispanics while Hobbs/Masters voters will mostly be suburban college educated whites.

[Devout Centrist]

It's interesting how mainstream she makes denying an election sound. This is how the right started with things like "building a wall" or the "muslim ban". It sounds insane but the more they say it, to some, it begins to sound rational. 

This is how Evil works, yes.

[Calthrina950]

https://twitter.com/KariLake/status/1582403573811318784

Holy cow. She puts the press into a trance. This woman is something else. Not only will she probably win (and put Arizona's 11 electoral votes back to the GOP in '24) but she probably has a bright national future herself.

Democrats boosted Lake in the primary - as they did many other MAGA candidates - because they were confident that they could beat her in the general. It's backfiring on them now. She certainly was underestimated.

How is it backfiring? lol, I guess everyone will see what they want to see, but Lake is literally handing out flyers and bringing election denial back into the forefront by making flimsy "both sides" arguments.

How is this supposed to help her with Independents?

Also think it's pretty funny how Democrats get the shaft typically in "why are they not talking about the right issues?" Why is Lake bringing out flyers talking about Hillary Clinton 3 weeks out from the election? Is that voters care about? It's clearly more a diversion than anything.

I'm not defending what Lake was doing. What I'm saying is that Democrats boosted Lake because they believed she would be the more beatable candidate in the general election, but this strategy has backfired on them. Lake has been running a strong campaign, while many Democrats are frustrated with Hobbs and believe that her campaign has made a series of unforced errors.

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/KariLake/status/1582403573811318784
Holy cow. She puts the press into a trance. This woman is something else. Not only will she probably win (and put Arizona's 11 electoral votes back to the GOP in '24) but she probably has a bright national future herself.

Democrats boosted Lake in the primary - as they did many other MAGA candidates - because they were confident that they could beat her in the general. It's backfiring on them now. She certainly was underestimated.

How is it backfiring? lol, I guess everyone will see what they want to see, but Lake is literally handing out flyers and bringing election denial back into the forefront by making flimsy "both sides" arguments.

How is this supposed to help her with Independents?

Also think it's pretty funny how Democrats get the shaft typically in "why are they not talking about the right issues?" Why is Lake bringing out flyers talking about Hillary Clinton 3 weeks out from the election? Is that voters care about? It's clearly more a diversion than anything.

I'm not defending what Lake was doing. What I'm saying is that Democrats boosted Lake because they believed she would be the more beatable candidate in the general election, but this strategy has backfired on them. Lake has been running a strong campaign, while many Democrats are frustrated with Hobbs and believe that her campaign has made a series of unforced errors.

I don't think Robson would be doing any worse than Lake is.

[Calthrina950]

https://twitter.com/KariLake/status/1582403573811318784
Holy cow. She puts the press into a trance. This woman is something else. Not only will she probably win (and put Arizona's 11 electoral votes back to the GOP in '24) but she probably has a bright national future herself.

Democrats boosted Lake in the primary - as they did many other MAGA candidates - because they were confident that they could beat her in the general. It's backfiring on them now. She certainly was underestimated.

How is it backfiring? lol, I guess everyone will see what they want to see, but Lake is literally handing out flyers and bringing election denial back into the forefront by making flimsy "both sides" arguments.

How is this supposed to help her with Independents?

Also think it's pretty funny how Democrats get the shaft typically in "why are they not talking about the right issues?" Why is Lake bringing out flyers talking about Hillary Clinton 3 weeks out from the election? Is that voters care about? It's clearly more a diversion than anything.

I'm not defending what Lake was doing. What I'm saying is that Democrats boosted Lake because they believed she would be the more beatable candidate in the general election, but this strategy has backfired on them. Lake has been running a strong campaign, while many Democrats are frustrated with Hobbs and believe that her campaign has made a series of unforced errors.

I don't think Robson would be doing any worse than Lake is.

I don't think so either, and that is exactly my point.

[Southern Reactionary Dem]

https://twitter.com/KariLake/status/1582403573811318784
Holy cow. She puts the press into a trance. This woman is something else. Not only will she probably win (and put Arizona's 11 electoral votes back to the GOP in '24) but she probably has a bright national future herself.

Democrats boosted Lake in the primary - as they did many other MAGA candidates - because they were confident that they could beat her in the general. It's backfiring on them now. She certainly was underestimated.

Some Dem operatives apparently learned zero lessons from 2016's pied piper strategy.

[Calthrina950]

https://twitter.com/KariLake/status/1582403573811318784
Holy cow. She puts the press into a trance. This woman is something else. Not only will she probably win (and put Arizona's 11 electoral votes back to the GOP in '24) but she probably has a bright national future herself.

Democrats boosted Lake in the primary - as they did many other MAGA candidates - because they were confident that they could beat her in the general. It's backfiring on them now. She certainly was underestimated.

Some Dem operatives apparently learned zero lessons from 2016's pied piper strategy.

They didn't, and now it's almost certain that Lake and some of these other election denialists are going to win next month.

[citizenZ]

https://twitter.com/KariLake/status/1582751919977598976

[Ferguson97]

https://twitter.com/KariLake/status/1582403573811318784
Holy cow. She puts the press into a trance. This woman is something else. Not only will she probably win (and put Arizona's 11 electoral votes back to the GOP in '24) but she probably has a bright national future herself.

Democrats boosted Lake in the primary - as they did many other MAGA candidates - because they were confident that they could beat her in the general. It's backfiring on them now. She certainly was underestimated.

Some Dem operatives apparently learned zero lessons from 2016's pied piper strategy.

They didn't, and now it's almost certain that Lake and some of these other election denialists are going to win next month.

I don't know how to tell you this, but Republican primary voters have agency. Democrats didn't trick them into voting for Lake. This is a right-wing talking point, but I'm not surprised that you're falling for it.

[Calthrina950]

https://twitter.com/KariLake/status/1582403573811318784
Holy cow. She puts the press into a trance. This woman is something else. Not only will she probably win (and put Arizona's 11 electoral votes back to the GOP in '24) but she probably has a bright national future herself.

Democrats boosted Lake in the primary - as they did many other MAGA candidates - because they were confident that they could beat her in the general. It's backfiring on them now. She certainly was underestimated.

Some Dem operatives apparently learned zero lessons from 2016's pied piper strategy.

They didn't, and now it's almost certain that Lake and some of these other election denialists are going to win next month.

I don't know how to tell you this, but Republican primary voters have agency. Democrats didn't trick them into voting for Lake. This is a right-wing talking point, but I'm not surprised that you're falling for it.

Of course they have agency, but as has been said many times before, many Democrats were uncomfortable with these particular tactics and do not believe they should have been employed. I'm far from the only person who has made this point. And why are you "surprised"? I'm getting tired of this "#bothsideism" nonsense that you and other posters continue to bash me and those like me with.

[Born to Slay. Forced to Work.]

https://twitter.com/KariLake/status/1582403573811318784
Holy cow. She puts the press into a trance. This woman is something else. Not only will she probably win (and put Arizona's 11 electoral votes back to the GOP in '24) but she probably has a bright national future herself.

Democrats boosted Lake in the primary - as they did many other MAGA candidates - because they were confident that they could beat her in the general. It's backfiring on them now. She certainly was underestimated.

Some Dem operatives apparently learned zero lessons from 2016's pied piper strategy.

They didn't, and now it's almost certain that Lake and some of these other election denialists are going to win next month.

I don't know how to tell you this, but Republican primary voters have agency. Democrats didn't trick them into voting for Lake. This is a right-wing talking point, but I'm not surprised that you're falling for it.

Of course they have agency, but as has been said many times before, many Democrats were uncomfortable with these particular tactics and do not believe they should have been employed. I'm far from the only person who has made this point. And why are you "surprised"? I'm getting tired of this "#bothsideism" nonsense that you and other posters continue to bash me and those like me with.

I fail to see the both sidisms of this.

Did democrats boost Lake? Yes
Did it make an impact? Maybe?
Would she have won the primary regardless? Most Probably

The effect of democrats swinging republicans primaries is greatly over exaggerated

[kwabbit]

https://twitter.com/KariLake/status/1582403573811318784
Holy cow. She puts the press into a trance. This woman is something else. Not only will she probably win (and put Arizona's 11 electoral votes back to the GOP in '24) but she probably has a bright national future herself.

Democrats boosted Lake in the primary - as they did many other MAGA candidates - because they were confident that they could beat her in the general. It's backfiring on them now. She certainly was underestimated.

Some Dem operatives apparently learned zero lessons from 2016's pied piper strategy.

They didn't, and now it's almost certain that Lake and some of these other election denialists are going to win next month.

I don't know how to tell you this, but Republican primary voters have agency. Democrats didn't trick them into voting for Lake. This is a right-wing talking point, but I'm not surprised that you're falling for it.

Of course they have agency, but as has been said many times before, many Democrats were uncomfortable with these particular tactics and do not believe they should have been employed. I'm far from the only person who has made this point. And why are you "surprised"? I'm getting tired of this "#bothsideism" nonsense that you and other posters continue to bash me and those like me with.

I fail to see the both sidisms of this.

Did democrats boost Lake? Yes
Did it make an impact? Maybe?
Would she have won the primary regardless? Most Probably

The effect of democrats swinging republicans primaries is greatly over exaggerated

The AZ GOP Gubernatorial primary is one of the races where it might’ve made a difference. Lake winning by 5% in a primary is not a lot. She was spending basically nothing herself on ads run in support of her could have had a large marginal effect. Either way, Democratic support of her relied on a belief that she was a much weaker candidate than she’s turned out to be.

[GeorgiaModerate]

In non-gubernatorial news:

https://twitter.com/maryjpitzl/status/1582851494763634689

[citizenZ]

https://twitter.com/KariLake/status/1582864661765967874

Why does Hobbs keep running away from reporters? Like literally running into elevators, spilling her drinks, etc?

You're less than 3 weeks away, wouldn't you wanna be out there? Unreal.

[SCNCmod]

I still don't think it is (yet) a foregone conclusion that Hobbs will not get elected...

But at least its not a Senate race.

[Gass3268]

https://twitter.com/RonBrownstein/status/1583238340530171904?s=20&t=pI6oLEHc...

[Aurelius]

More pearl clutching.