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Question: Who would you vote for in the secound round?
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Gabriel Boric (Apuebo Dignidad, Left)
 
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Jose Antonio Kast (REP, far-right)
 
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Total Voters: 78

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« Reply #725 on: November 21, 2021, 05:21:10 PM »

10% of the results are in. 29% Kast, 24% Boric, 14% Parisi, 13% Provoste, 12% Sichel.
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« Reply #726 on: November 21, 2021, 05:21:38 PM »

10% on. 29% Kast, 24% Boric, 14% Parisi, 13% Provoste, 12% Sichel.

XD!!!!
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« Reply #727 on: November 21, 2021, 05:27:19 PM »

If these are the final results it would be pretty ominous for the runoff, honestly.
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« Reply #728 on: November 21, 2021, 05:28:41 PM »

Atacama is a different world it seems. Provoste 1st and Parisi 2nd

Boric strongholds seem to be Santiago and to lesser extent, Valparaíso so far. He clearly is a very different candidate than a Lula or an Evo in the sense he performs better with high-education and maybe upper class voters.

The high % he got internationally is another evidence of this. Here in Brazil and in places like Peru it was the opposite, with expats favoring the right over the left, but the national vote balanced things. Here in Chile it’s the opposite happening.

I am guessing Boric is much more of a “PSOL-like” type of candidate and doesn’t have that much deep cultural penetration with more working class type of voters.
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« Reply #729 on: November 21, 2021, 05:30:20 PM »

So, Kast vs Boric It is, with the right having more votes than the left. However, I guess Parisi base in the north cannot be described as your usual right-wing voter. Let's wait and see.

It'd be amazing that the result of these years of Piñera disastrous government and hundreds of demonstrations and activism were the election of an even more conservative, reactionary guy than Piñera. Since Brexit, nothing makes sense anymore.
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« Reply #730 on: November 21, 2021, 05:30:39 PM »

If these are the final results it would be pretty ominous for the runoff, honestly.

No, it would just mean Atlas got it wrong again. Come on, the bias was obvious (practically the only replies here were from red avatars haha). Absolutely pathetic performance for the left. It must be said that I was the only one here who did not buy into the narrative of the red avatars.
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« Reply #731 on: November 21, 2021, 05:34:54 PM »

20% of the votes are in and the numbers are essentially the same.
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« Reply #732 on: November 21, 2021, 05:44:30 PM »

I recall kaoras saying that the first results normally hold on until the end. So, a Kast vs Boric runoff it is.
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« Reply #733 on: November 21, 2021, 05:50:05 PM »

If these are the final results it would be pretty ominous for the runoff, honestly.

No, it would just mean Atlas got it wrong again. Come on, the bias was obvious (practically the only replies here were from red avatars haha). Absolutely pathetic performance for the left. It must be said that I was the only one here who did not buy into the narrative of the red avatars.

Nobody cares about what you say. You are always there to laugh when the left loses and cry when the left wins, but other than that, your inputs are naught, null, zero, irrelevant. Kaoras, Lumine (Who happens to be Chilean and conservative), etc, did a great job and provided useful information about Chile and its elections. I never read anything about Boric winning in a landslide or something like that, so stop lying.
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« Reply #734 on: November 21, 2021, 05:54:06 PM »

With the complete collapse of the former Chile Vamos and the former Concertación, I'm now really curious on what the Congress results will be like. No results yet.
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« Reply #735 on: November 21, 2021, 05:54:51 PM »
« Edited: November 21, 2021, 06:03:21 PM by BigSerg »

If these are the final results it would be pretty ominous for the runoff, honestly.

No, it would just mean Atlas got it wrong again. Come on, the bias was obvious (practically the only replies here were from red avatars haha). Absolutely pathetic performance for the left. It must be said that I was the only one here who did not buy into the narrative of the red avatars.

Nobody cares about what you say. You are always there to laugh when the left loses and cry when the left wins, but other than that, your inputs are naught, null, zero, irrelevant. Kaoras, Lumine (Who happens to be Chilean and conservative), etc, did a great job and provided useful information about Chile and its elections. I never read anything about Boric winning in a landslide or something like that, so stop lying.

Yes, and now I'm laughing. Niemeyerite, it's always a pleasure to see your fantasies destroyed.

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That makes the performance of the conservatives look even more pathetic.
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« Reply #736 on: November 21, 2021, 05:55:52 PM »

30,16% counted

1. Kast 29,05%
2. Boric 23,83%
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3. Parisi 13,73%
4. Provoste 12,75%
5. Sichel 11,79%
6. Ominami 7,46%
7. Artes 1,39%
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« Reply #737 on: November 21, 2021, 05:56:25 PM »

Looking at where the votes are outstanding, it will probably finish Kast ~27 Boric ~25.
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« Reply #738 on: November 21, 2021, 05:57:12 PM »

The media needs to stop playing up the “look how extreme these two candidates are!” narrative because it’s fundamentally untrue. It’s the same scenario as the US in 2016. When the PC (not even his own party, and whose candidate he defeated in the primaries!) supported Daniel Ortega, Boric disagreed. When Karina Oliva was revealed to be corrupt, Boric told people not to vote for her. And yet he’s being placed on the same level as someone who wants to give the president dictatorial powers and persecute his political opponents. It’s rarely surprising, of course, but it’s always disappointing.
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« Reply #739 on: November 21, 2021, 05:57:26 PM »

Anyway, Sichel is speaking now (and is doing the exact same thing I just posted a rant about). He’s called Kast to congratulate him and said that he won’t vote for Boric.
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« Reply #740 on: November 21, 2021, 05:57:31 PM »

La Araucanía: Kast 43%, Parisi 11%, Sichel 11%, together 65%.

Argentina please invade.
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« Reply #741 on: November 21, 2021, 05:58:57 PM »

Looking at where the votes are outstanding, it will probably finish Kast ~27 Boric ~25.

Yeah, something like that, the difference between the top 2 is slowly diminishing.

That runoff will be extremely close, although I think Kast is the slight favorite to win with something around 52% if I had to guess (also going by the polls, which were absolutely correct).
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« Reply #742 on: November 21, 2021, 05:59:28 PM »


Sichel says he will not vote for Boric. Will "talk" with Kast about his vote.
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« Reply #743 on: November 21, 2021, 06:01:35 PM »


Sichel says he will not vote for Boric. Will "talk" with Kast about his vote.

And then he has the nerve to talk about “democratic majorities” while he lays the groundwork to endorse a guy who supported Sí in 1988.
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« Reply #744 on: November 21, 2021, 06:03:44 PM »
« Edited: November 21, 2021, 06:07:35 PM by Red Velvet »

The media needs to stop playing up the “look how extreme these two candidates are!” narrative because it’s fundamentally untrue. It’s the same scenario as the US in 2016. When the PC (not even his own party, and whose candidate he defeated in the primaries!) supported Daniel Ortega, Boric disagreed. When Karina Oliva was revealed to be corrupt, Boric told people not to vote for her. And yet he’s being placed on the same level as someone who wants to give the president dictatorial powers and persecute his political opponents. It’s rarely surprising, of course, but it’s always disappointing.

The media doesn’t care. They have their own interests and the left or even the center-left aren’t friends. The analogy is precisely because they know very well the far-right option is crap and want to have something to portray the left negatively as well.

Doesn’t matter if it’s a more working class friendly option like say, Evo, or a more embraced by the big city elites option like Boric. Media will treat them as the same. Instead of cuddling to mainstream media, leftists need to organize to trash and expose them for what they are.
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« Reply #745 on: November 21, 2021, 06:04:02 PM »


Sichel says he will not vote for Boric. Will "talk" with Kast about his vote.

And then he has the nerve to talk about “democratic majorities” while he lays the groundwork to endorse a guy who supported Sí in 1988.

So, it is not democracy if Boric is humiliated?
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« Reply #746 on: November 21, 2021, 06:06:05 PM »

La Araucanía: Kast 43%, Parisi 11%, Sichel 11%, together 65%.

Argentina please invade.

Careful what you wish for. Argentina is seeing a right-wing surge of their own and Milei reminds a lot of Kast. Cono sur could potentially be the next Brazil/USA even though the far-right already demonstrated to be a failure in those two.
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« Reply #747 on: November 21, 2021, 06:08:12 PM »

So far these results seem pretty close to pre-election polls right?
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« Reply #748 on: November 21, 2021, 06:10:16 PM »


Sichel says he will not vote for Boric. Will "talk" with Kast about his vote.

And then he has the nerve to talk about “democratic majorities” while he lays the groundwork to endorse a guy who supported Sí in 1988.

So, it is not democracy if Boric is humiliated?

It’s not democracy if you are a pinochetista. I don’t think that should be controversial.
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« Reply #749 on: November 21, 2021, 06:10:52 PM »

So far these results seem pretty close to pre-election polls right?

Yep, which is a bit surprising as polls in Chile have a tendency to fail.

Also, someone on TV13 said that the final turnout could be around 6,7 million, 45% turnout. Quite low.
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