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« Reply #17775 on: November 13, 2020, 05:09:40 AM »

When is the last time a Democrat was elected President without winning at least two of Florida, Missouri, Ohio, and Texas? Biden didn't win any.

Obama won FL and OH both times.
Clinton was MO and OH in 1992 and added FL in 1996.
Carter won all four in 1976.
Kennedy won MO and TX.
Truman won all four.
FDR won all four in 1932 and 1936, and at least 3 each in 1940 and 1944.

Also: is this the first time that more than one state split their EVs?

If Kamala Harris becomes President, she will not only be the first woman President, she will be the first President born on another President's death date (Herbert Hoover's).
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« Reply #17776 on: November 13, 2020, 05:57:24 AM »

When is the last time a Democrat was elected President without winning at least two of Florida, Missouri, Ohio, and Texas? Biden didn't win any.

Obama won FL and OH both times.
Clinton was MO and OH in 1992 and added FL in 1996.
Carter won all four in 1976.
Kennedy won MO and TX.
Truman won all four.
FDR won all four in 1932 and 1936, and at least 3 each in 1940 and 1944.

Also: is this the first time that more than one state split their EVs?

If Kamala Harris becomes President, she will not only be the first woman President, she will be the first President born on another President's death date (Herbert Hoover's).

Wow I had no idea president Herbert Hoover lived that long
So not only did he outlive JFK he also died the same year Kamala Harris was born
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« Reply #17777 on: November 13, 2020, 06:05:56 AM »

When is the last time a Democrat was elected President without winning at least two of Florida, Missouri, Ohio, and Texas? Biden didn't win any.

Obama won FL and OH both times.
Clinton was MO and OH in 1992 and added FL in 1996.
Carter won all four in 1976.
Kennedy won MO and TX.
Truman won all four.
FDR won all four in 1932 and 1936, and at least 3 each in 1940 and 1944.

Also: is this the first time that more than one state split their EVs?

If Kamala Harris becomes President, she will not only be the first woman President, she will be the first President born on another President's death date (Herbert Hoover's).

Wow I had no idea president Herbert Hoover lived that long
So not only did he outlive JFK he also died the same year Kamala Harris was born
Yes, and on the same date, October 20th. Hoover lived to be 90.
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« Reply #17778 on: November 13, 2020, 06:09:28 AM »

When is the last time a Democrat was elected President without winning at least two of Florida, Missouri, Ohio, and Texas? Biden didn't win any.

Obama won FL and OH both times.
Clinton was MO and OH in 1992 and added FL in 1996.
Carter won all four in 1976.
Kennedy won MO and TX.
Truman won all four.
FDR won all four in 1932 and 1936, and at least 3 each in 1940 and 1944.

Also: is this the first time that more than one state split their EVs?

If Kamala Harris becomes President, she will not only be the first woman President, she will be the first President born on another President's death date (Herbert Hoover's).

I think it is if you discount faithless electors and elections that predate the allocation of electors based on the winner of the states' popular votes. 
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« Reply #17779 on: November 13, 2020, 06:12:56 AM »

Is that much in right now from NYC to say that Biden is gonna be 4-6 below Hillary? I thought they had barely started to count.
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« Reply #17780 on: November 13, 2020, 06:16:14 AM »

Biden's lead up to 60,233 in PA.

Joe Biden 3,403,925 (49.81%)
Donald Trump 3,343,692 (48.92%)
Other 86,743 (1.27%)

Philly dumped 4.4K mail-ins, it appears they still have at least ~7K mail-ins left (not including provisionals too)
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« Reply #17781 on: November 13, 2020, 06:30:12 AM »

Posted this in another thread, but here's the schedule for official certification dates:


MS will definitely not certify statewide results today.

Only some 10 of 80+ counties have submitted their certified results as of today ...

Yeah, they haven't even bothered counting 200-300K extra ballots and its been over a week...
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« Reply #17782 on: November 13, 2020, 06:34:41 AM »

Is that much in right now from NYC to say that Biden is gonna be 4-6 below Hillary? I thought they had barely started to count.

It's a simple matter of Trump doing so well relative to 2016 (currently has more raw votes in every borough than 2016) on the current county from election day + early voting totals (75% of overall vote approximately) that it's nearly impossible for Biden to do better than Clinton in NYC.

Here are the percentages Biden would achieve if every single mail-in vote is counted and goes to Biden:
Bronx - 71.4% (was Clinton+79.1)
Brooklyn - 59.8% (was Clinton+62.0)
Manhattan - 80.4% (was Clinton+76.9)
Queens - 52.7% (was Clinton+53.6)
Staten Island - -4.2% (was Trump+15.1)

Of course there are some provisional ballots to consider as well, so maybe Biden can do a bit better than underperforming Clinton by 4% in NYC, but it's pretty evident Biden is on pace to do worse than she did in Bronx, Brooklyn, and Queens, but could maybe match her performance in Manhattan.
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« Reply #17783 on: November 13, 2020, 07:06:18 AM »



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« Reply #17784 on: November 13, 2020, 07:09:58 AM »

When is the last time a Democrat was elected President without winning at least two of Florida, Missouri, Ohio, and Texas? Biden didn't win any.

1844 James K. Polk
won MO, lost OH, no election in FL, TX

In case you mean elections with voting in all four states (-2016):
every Democrat who won the election won at least 2 of 4
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« Reply #17785 on: November 13, 2020, 07:12:37 AM »

Waiting for NV, OH, MS, IL, MD to report new mail in totals....
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« Reply #17786 on: November 13, 2020, 07:14:22 AM »

Is that much in right now from NYC to say that Biden is gonna be 4-6 below Hillary? I thought they had barely started to count.

It's a simple matter of Trump doing so well relative to 2016 (currently has more raw votes in every borough than 2016) on the current county from election day + early voting totals (75% of overall vote approximately) that it's nearly impossible for Biden to do better than Clinton in NYC.

Here are the percentages Biden would achieve if every single mail-in vote is counted and goes to Biden:
Bronx - 71.4% (was Clinton+79.1)
Brooklyn - 59.8% (was Clinton+62.0)
Manhattan - 80.4% (was Clinton+76.9)
Queens - 52.7% (was Clinton+53.6)
Staten Island - -4.2% (was Trump+15.1)

Of course there are some provisional ballots to consider as well, so maybe Biden can do a bit better than underperforming Clinton by 4% in NYC, but it's pretty evident Biden is on pace to do worse than she did in Bronx, Brooklyn, and Queens, but could maybe match her performance in Manhattan.

Gotcha, it just seems like only like 5-10% of mail ins have even been counted in NYC, so I feel like it's hard to make conclusions at this point
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« Reply #17787 on: November 13, 2020, 07:23:24 AM »





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« Reply #17788 on: November 13, 2020, 09:35:14 AM »



According to the article, State Farm Arena in Atlanta was the most-used sports venue, with nearly 40,000 voters!
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« Reply #17789 on: November 13, 2020, 10:03:21 AM »



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« Reply #17790 on: November 13, 2020, 10:05:38 AM »



According to the article, State Farm Arena in Atlanta was the most-used sports venue, with nearly 40,000 voters!


So the NBA's decision to allow its arenas to be used as polling places materially turned one very important state Democratic
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« Reply #17791 on: November 13, 2020, 10:14:49 AM »

Trump’s lawyers keep dropping out:

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« Reply #17792 on: November 13, 2020, 10:17:31 AM »

Lol Obummer
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« Reply #17793 on: November 13, 2020, 10:31:46 AM »

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« Reply #17794 on: November 13, 2020, 10:33:45 AM »

Lol Obummer


What a moron. It's his party that blocks worker protection laws and a minimum wage increase.

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« Reply #17795 on: November 13, 2020, 10:56:48 AM »

Why has NY still so many votes uncounted? Is this sheer incompetence? Cuomo should get his act together.
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« Reply #17796 on: November 13, 2020, 10:59:06 AM »

Another large Republican county in MS, Lamar, has certified results.

About 5.000 votes have been added there since election night to the 23.500
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« Reply #17797 on: November 13, 2020, 11:02:11 AM »

Also: is this the first time that more than one state split their EVs?

Discounting faithless electors, I think the last time was 1896 (California and Kentucky).  I think that was because the electors were elected individually, so while most voters voted for a slate there were enough voters doing odd things that if a state was very close you could get a state splitting its electors.
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« Reply #17798 on: November 13, 2020, 11:04:28 AM »
« Edited: November 13, 2020, 11:14:57 AM by roxas11 »

Lol Obummer



Let me be very clear about this
 

Trump and others pushhing the racist birther conspiracy attacks against Obama while he was president had nothing to with his agenda or working wages and empowered the rise of China

This was not about Obama politics it was about his race

Now look people are welcome to disagree with Obama or any other president but what Trump and others did went way beyond simply disagreeing with a president's political agenda

They were not attacking Obama over his policies
They were attacking the very idea that he was born in this country and implying that he was a illegitimate president because they claimed he was not an American citzen.


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« Reply #17799 on: November 13, 2020, 11:09:22 AM »

Another large Republican county in MS, Lamar, has certified results.

About 5.000 votes have been added there since election night to the 23.500

Do we know how the 5k broke?
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