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« Reply #4975 on: November 04, 2020, 03:08:59 AM »

ME-AL just called by NYT lol.
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« Reply #4976 on: November 04, 2020, 03:09:02 AM »

AP calls Maine for Biden.
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« Reply #4977 on: November 04, 2020, 03:09:08 AM »

There were some pretty decent swings to Biden in the western upper peninsula of Michigan. Marquette, for example, appears to have went 48-44 Clinton to 55-43 Biden.
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« Reply #4978 on: November 04, 2020, 03:09:22 AM »

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« Reply #4979 on: November 04, 2020, 03:09:41 AM »

One pattern I've noticed: in 2016, Sanders had surprising strength with WWC in rust belt, and sure enough, Hillary bled votes with those voters. In 2020, Sanders had surprising strength with Hispanics, and sure enough, Joe bled votes with Hispanics.

To go back even further, Obama's weakness with Appalachian whites foreshadowed his collapse with them in the 2008 general.
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« Reply #4980 on: November 04, 2020, 03:09:45 AM »

Trump is an idiot for trying to claim victory early. It's abundantly likely he has won legitimately and those kind of antics only delegitimize it. Nothing good comes out of this.

Except it really is not, and he knows it.
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« Reply #4981 on: November 04, 2020, 03:09:55 AM »

Can someone give me a succinct breakdown of what's outstanding in MI, WI, and PA?  I can't find anything decent in the media.

In particular, in PA Biden is down by 13 with 26% of the vote left.  Is there any reason to believe that he can win the remaining vote 2-1?

No there is not

Pennsylvania's mail-in vote leant Democratic by something like 40 points. There's plenty of reason to believe Biden can overcome the margin.
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« Reply #4982 on: November 04, 2020, 03:10:17 AM »


All 100% of it, man should I even sleep?
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« Reply #4983 on: November 04, 2020, 03:10:56 AM »

NY Times calls AZ-SEN for Mark Kelly.
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« Reply #4984 on: November 04, 2020, 03:11:01 AM »

There were some pretty decent swings to Biden in the western upper peninsula of Michigan. Marquette, for example, appears to have went 48-44 Clinton to 55-43 Biden.
Related, only 43% is in from Wayne County (Detroit). How well Biden does there will likely determine Michigan.
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« Reply #4985 on: November 04, 2020, 03:11:09 AM »

Does Trump get Maine 02?
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« Reply #4986 on: November 04, 2020, 03:11:18 AM »


AP backs up Fox
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« Reply #4987 on: November 04, 2020, 03:12:22 AM »

It sucks for the American public that the two most teflon politicians are Trump and Mitch. Democrats talking about this person or that person is wrong for us still don't get it. We can get the best person like an Obama and the rightwing talk machine will immediately start slandering that person and dehumanizing them until they're nothing but an evil caricature.

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« Reply #4988 on: November 04, 2020, 03:12:26 AM »

Susan Collins is still under 50 in Maine.  How does the outstanding vote look there?

Unfortunately Collins will probably add the 1.7 who voted for crazy person Max Linn.
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« Reply #4989 on: November 04, 2020, 03:13:01 AM »


It matters if somehow Biden wins NV+WI+NC and nothing else.
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« Reply #4990 on: November 04, 2020, 03:13:13 AM »

Well if Trump wins, he can claim victory over Pelosi botching the stimulus package which was held up deliberately by Pelosi for D's, you don't play with consumers money.

She still has a House but it's no good now without Senate and WH

She should lose the Speakership

I agree with this. Though if Trump wins, he'll still want to pass a stimulus package but he can play hardball now, I would fully expect Trump and Mitch to start bumping heads.

Pelosi passed a COVID relief package months ago.  It was Trump who tweeted out that he wouldn't negotiate with Pelosi under any circumstances until after the election.  Then he backtracked, and asked Mitch to come to the table for a compromise bill, and Mitch refused.

As usual, Mitch is absolved of all blame for situations where he's entirely responsible.

I swear the revisionist history of this election already being written is gonna drive me batty.

If you don't think Pelosi doesn't have any blame in this situation, you're delusional and I know what was going on with stimulus. But this could've been settled back in August.
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« Reply #4991 on: November 04, 2020, 03:13:43 AM »

Rs can rest now, it's not a Supermajority Senate and 6/3 Conservative majority is gonna last until 2030

People care less about abortions
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« Reply #4992 on: November 04, 2020, 03:13:51 AM »

Can someone give me a succinct breakdown of what's outstanding in MI, WI, and PA?  I can't find anything decent in the media.

In particular, in PA Biden is down by 13 with 26% of the vote left.  Is there any reason to believe that he can win the remaining vote 2-1?

No there is not

Pennsylvania's mail-in vote leant Democratic by something like 40 points. There's plenty of reason to believe Biden can overcome the margin.

Except there's not. There is literally no reason to believe he can make this up. He needs 75% of the state's outstanding votes, which will not happen
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« Reply #4993 on: November 04, 2020, 03:14:00 AM »

so i guess targetsmart was right hehe
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« Reply #4994 on: November 04, 2020, 03:14:13 AM »


All 100% of it, man should I even sleep?

No, get some popcorn.
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« Reply #4995 on: November 04, 2020, 03:15:37 AM »

Can someone give me a succinct breakdown of what's outstanding in MI, WI, and PA?  I can't find anything decent in the media.

In particular, in PA Biden is down by 13 with 26% of the vote left.  Is there any reason to believe that he can win the remaining vote 2-1?

No there is not

Pennsylvania's mail-in vote leant Democratic by something like 40 points. There's plenty of reason to believe Biden can overcome the margin.

Except there's not. There is literally no reason to believe he can make this up. He needs 75% of the state's outstanding votes, which will not happen

You don't actually know how many votes are left in Pennsylvania, and nobody does. They accept mail-ins that arrive up to three days after Election Day.
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« Reply #4996 on: November 04, 2020, 03:15:44 AM »

John James will net gain MI for Rs
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« Reply #4997 on: November 04, 2020, 03:15:55 AM »

Well if Trump wins, he can claim victory over Pelosi botching the stimulus package which was held up deliberately by Pelosi for D's, you don't play with consumers money.

She still has a House but it's no good now without Senate and WH

She should lose the Speakership

I agree with this. Though if Trump wins, he'll still want to pass a stimulus package but he can play hardball now, I would fully expect Trump and Mitch to start bumping heads.

Pelosi passed a COVID relief package months ago.  It was Trump who tweeted out that he wouldn't negotiate with Pelosi under any circumstances until after the election.  Then he backtracked, and asked Mitch to come to the table for a compromise bill, and Mitch refused.

As usual, Mitch is absolved of all blame for situations where he's entirely responsible.

I swear the revisionist history of this election already being written is gonna drive me batty.

If you don't think Pelosi doesn't have any blame in this situation, you're delusional and I know what was going on with stimulus. But this could've been settled back in August.

Pelosi needs to be a better politician, but she was in the right.

Americans just seem to always side with Mitch and Trump in any sort of legislative fight.  Maybe the hatred for Pelosi is just too baked-in.
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« Reply #4998 on: November 04, 2020, 03:16:07 AM »

AP showing Wisconsin with 93% reporting, Trump leading by 110,000 votes. Insurmountable.
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« Reply #4999 on: November 04, 2020, 03:16:50 AM »

Can someone give me a succinct breakdown of what's outstanding in MI, WI, and PA?  I can't find anything decent in the media.

In particular, in PA Biden is down by 13 with 26% of the vote left.  Is there any reason to believe that he can win the remaining vote 2-1?

No there is not

Pennsylvania's mail-in vote leant Democratic by something like 40 points. There's plenty of reason to believe Biden can overcome the margin.

Except there's not. There is literally no reason to believe he can make this up. He needs 75% of the state's outstanding votes, which will not happen

You don't actually know how many votes are left in Pennsylvania, and nobody does. They accept mail-ins that arrive up to three days after Election Day.

Are you even paying attention at all?

John King LITERALLY SAID HE NEEDS 75% OF OUTSTANDING VOTES
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