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« Reply #1525 on: October 05, 2020, 09:47:42 AM »
« edited: October 05, 2020, 09:51:55 AM by Penn_Quaker_Girl »
Quote from: RBG died for our sins | PROTECT BIDEN on October 05, 2020, 09:44:48 AM
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Quote from: GeorgiaModerate on October 05, 2020, 07:25:51 AM



Yeah, it's something that's anecdotally referred to as "steroid euphoria".  It's a phenomenon that's pretty well documented in the anabolic steroids, but not well understood in the corticosteroids.  I'm not sure about dexamethosone, but I know of a study indicated that around one percent of patients on prednisone (a sister corticosteroid) experience some sort of adverse psychological effects as a result of the drug's interactions with the CNS.  

Source:  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3853679/

My anecdotal observations lead me to believe it's much higher than 1% for prednisone.

According to this, it's dose dependent and I think it's a safe bet that Trump is on a heavy dose of steroids.

Ah! Thank you for the clarification -- one percent with a baseline dosage of 40mg, but the risk increases as the dosage increases.  

Also, I forgot to mention that the term "steroid psychosis" is used with anabolic steroids.  They can be pretty frightening events -- as in not being just limited to feelings of euphoria or simple mood swings.  At its worst, steroid psychosis can present as full-blown paranoid delusions.  

(And, of course, I'm not saying that any of this is what's happening with Trump.  In fact, I'd err on the side of skepticism, though it'd really depend on the dosage that they're giving him).  
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« Reply #1526 on: October 05, 2020, 09:51:31 AM »
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« Reply #1527 on: October 05, 2020, 09:52:55 AM »
Quote from: Penn_Quaker_Girl on October 05, 2020, 09:47:42 AM
Quote from: RBG died for our sins | PROTECT BIDEN on October 05, 2020, 09:44:48 AM
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Yeah, it's something that's anecdotally referred to as "steroid euphoria".  It's a phenomenon that's pretty well documented in the anabolic steroids, but not well understood in the corticosteroids.  I'm not sure about dexamethosone, but I know of a study indicated that around one percent of patients on prednisone (a sister corticosteroid) experience some sort of adverse psychological effects as a result of the drug's interactions with the CNS. 

Source:  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3853679/

My anecdotal observations lead me to believe it's much higher than 1% for prednisone.

According to this, it's dose dependent and I think it's a safe bet that Trump is on a heavy dose of steroids.

Ah! Thank you for the clarification -- one percent with a baseline dosage of 40mg, but the risk increases as the dosage increases. 

Also, I forgot to mention that the term "steroid psychosis" is used with anabolic steroids.  They can be pretty frightening events -- as in not being just limited to feelings of euphoria or simple mood swings.  At its worst, steroid psychosis can present as full-blown paranoid delusions.   

Whenever I'm on prednisone, they like to start me at 60 mg so I just don't go to work for a few days. You also won't see me around here, as I'd probably get banned or something!

Dealing with that on top of the other drugs and the fatigue and illness has to be a cocktail of crazy. They should take his phone.
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« Reply #1528 on: October 05, 2020, 10:13:08 AM »
Quote from: Beta Vanguard on October 05, 2020, 08:47:16 AM
Anyone voting for Trump now on this forum, with all this information given and incapsulating to you, is an idiot.
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« Reply #1529 on: October 05, 2020, 10:19:16 AM »
Quote from: Donald Trump’s Toupée on October 04, 2020, 03:16:21 PM
We have a President who is physically unwell.
And we have the most likely next president in cognitive decline.

What could go (even more) wrong?

Even if Trump were to leave office before January 20, I haven't seen anything to indicate Pence is in cognitive decline.
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« Reply #1530 on: October 05, 2020, 10:29:40 AM »

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« Reply #1531 on: October 05, 2020, 10:31:03 AM »

Well Trump does enjoy accusing people.
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« Reply #1532 on: October 05, 2020, 10:33:23 AM »
Trump campaign is attacking Biden for not catching COVID-19.
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« Reply #1533 on: October 05, 2020, 10:34:42 AM »
Quote from: Gass3268 on October 05, 2020, 10:33:23 AM
Trump campaign is attacking Biden for not catching COVID-19.



Nice of Trump to point out that his opponent is smarter and more reponsible.
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« Reply #1534 on: October 05, 2020, 10:36:55 AM »
« Edited: October 05, 2020, 10:45:33 AM by Optimistic Democrat »
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Trump campaign is attacking Biden for not catching COVID-19.



And thanks to his years of experience avoiding taxes he knows exactly how to close all the loopholes in the system. Those first-hand experiences, Joe Biden, he doesn't have those.
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« Reply #1535 on: October 05, 2020, 10:37:44 AM »
Quote from: GeorgiaModerate on October 05, 2020, 10:29:40 AM



*EYE ROLL*

Another name to add to my daily prayers list, I suppose. 
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« Reply #1536 on: October 05, 2020, 10:39:01 AM »
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Quote from: GeorgiaModerate on October 05, 2020, 10:29:40 AM



*EYE ROLL*

Another name to add to my daily prayers list, I suppose. 

Tots and pears.
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« Reply #1537 on: October 05, 2020, 10:47:30 AM »
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Trump campaign is attacking Biden for not catching COVID-19.



Because unlike supermarket cashiers, laundromat staff, postal serviceman, food distributors, farmers, policeman, and other essential workers -- privileged Joe Biden chooses to stay home, call non-stop lid days, and shirk his duties as an essential worker.
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« Reply #1538 on: October 05, 2020, 10:48:06 AM »
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Quote from: Gass3268 on October 05, 2020, 10:33:23 AM
Trump campaign is attacking Biden for not catching COVID-19.



Because unlike supermarket cashiers, laundromat staff, postal serviceman, food distributors, farmers, policeman, and other essential workers -- privileged Joe Biden chooses to stay home, call non-stop lid days, and shirk his duties as an essential worker.

I mean, he’s a private citizen right now. Not president yet. But soon he’ll get to work and the diseased President will have a lot more time to recover at home without having to pretend to work.
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« Reply #1539 on: October 05, 2020, 10:49:48 AM »
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*EYE ROLL*

Another name to add to my daily prayers list, I suppose. 

Tots and pears.

I wasn't being facetious.  It's just that my daily prayer list is getting long, chock-full of of people who likely didn't take proper precautions.  
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« Reply #1540 on: October 05, 2020, 10:50:53 AM »
Quote from: GeorgiaModerate on October 05, 2020, 10:29:40 AM



She sure seems really insistent that she didn’t know about Hicks before...
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« Reply #1541 on: October 05, 2020, 10:51:15 AM »
Quote from: Gass3268 on October 05, 2020, 10:33:23 AM
Trump campaign is attacking Biden for not catching COVID-19.


OMG, this is legit SUCH a terrible talking point. I hope they just run with that, LMAO.
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« Reply #1542 on: October 05, 2020, 10:56:00 AM »
Yes, Trump, please run on being a blithering f**king idiot. Please.
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« Reply #1543 on: October 05, 2020, 11:03:03 AM »
What a train wreck
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« Reply #1544 on: October 05, 2020, 11:03:40 AM »
Kayleigh was talking to reporters this weekend without a mask on even though she knew she was exposed and may have even had it. She's just another terrible person.
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« Reply #1545 on: October 05, 2020, 11:09:11 AM »
Quote from: Gass3268 on October 05, 2020, 10:33:23 AM
Trump campaign is attacking Biden for not catching COVID-19.



This is an easy kill. Joe Biden must IMMEDIATELY and PURPOSEFULLY contract Coronavirus in order to destroy this talking point and move on to more important matters.
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« Reply #1546 on: October 05, 2020, 11:11:23 AM »
Quote from: You Reap What You Sow on October 05, 2020, 11:09:11 AM
Quote from: Gass3268 on October 05, 2020, 10:33:23 AM
Trump campaign is attacking Biden for not catching COVID-19.



This is an easy kill. Joe Biden must IMMEDIATELY and PURPOSEFULLY contract Coronavirus in order to destroy this talking point and move on to more important matters.

Coming soon on TikTok etc.: the COVID Challenge!  How fast can you catch it and be like the President?

(Mostly joking...but not entirely.)
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« Reply #1547 on: October 05, 2020, 11:15:07 AM »
It will be hard to top this line:
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« Reply #1548 on: October 05, 2020, 11:16:10 AM »
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Quote from: GeorgiaModerate on October 05, 2020, 10:29:40 AM



She sure seems really insistent that she didn’t know about Hicks before...

Throwing her coworker under the bus. Wonder if there's a personal rivalry there
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« Reply #1549 on: October 05, 2020, 11:38:44 AM »
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