Voter suppresion/"stealing the election" megathread

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Beautiful!

The Fifth Circuit is the craziest CCOA in the country, for reference (unless you're a conservative who reserves that honor for the Ninth); it's 12-5 Republican and is the only CCOA I'd be worried about under more normal circumstances. Good to see not even they have time for this.

[BudgieForce]

Beautiful!

The Fifth Circuit is the craziest CCOA in the country, for reference (unless you're a conservative who reserves that honor for the Ninth); it's 12-5 Republican and is the only CCOA I'd be worried about under more normal circumstances. Good to see not even they have time for this.

It's even more telling because they didn't even wait for Gohmert's briefing apparently. They got the appeal less than 24 hours ago and just slapped it down as hard as they could. Out of all the courts in this country, you'd think the 5th would be the most receptive to this. But this appears to be one of the hardest slap downs of an election lawsuit so far.

Edit: And thank you to election twitter for helping me get more details. A thread I found very helpful on this ruling:

https://twitter.com/questauthority/status/1345543067533778946

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

Pence's COS: “The Vice President welcomes the efforts of members of the House and Senate to use the authority they have under the law to raise objections and bring forward evidence before the Congress and the American people on January 6th.”

Sounds to me like he's covering his ass for when he can't lawfully do what the Parler crowd wants him to do.

If you squint, you could also read it as a slight against Gohmert's recent lawsut.

"The house and the senate have the authority, not me."

Gohmert really is the archetypal lickspittle, isn't he? Imagine suing someone to give them more power relative to yourself. Can't relate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louie_Gohmert#Early_political_career

Gohmert attended The JAG School at the University of Virginia and entered U.S. Army JAG Corps. He served in the JAG Corps at Fort Benning, Georgia, from 1978-82.[7][8] The majority of his legal service in the U.S. Army was as a defense attorney.

Gohmert was elected as a state district judge for Texas's 7th Judicial District, serving Smith County (Tyler, Texas) from 1992 to 2002. He was elected to three terms.[7] He first saw national recognition for a 1996 probation requirement where he ordered an HIV positive man, who was convicted on motor vehicle theft charges, to seek the written consent from all future sexual partners on a court provided form notifying them of his HIV status.[9] The order angered LGBT activists and civil libertarians.[9]

In 2002, Gohmert was appointed by Texas Governor Rick Perry to fill a vacancy as Chief Justice on Texas's 12th Court of Appeals, where he served a six-month term, which ended in 2003

Gohmert isn't this stupid. What he's doing is posturing. He's attacking our electoral process as a PR stunt.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Pence's COS: “The Vice President welcomes the efforts of members of the House and Senate to use the authority they have under the law to raise objections and bring forward evidence before the Congress and the American people on January 6th.”

Sounds to me like he's covering his ass for when he can't lawfully do what the Parler crowd wants him to do.

If you squint, you could also read it as a slight against Gohmert's recent lawsut.

"The house and the senate have the authority, not me."

Gohmert really is the archetypal lickspittle, isn't he? Imagine suing someone to give them more power relative to yourself. Can't relate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louie_Gohmert#Early_political_career

Gohmert attended The JAG School at the University of Virginia and entered U.S. Army JAG Corps. He served in the JAG Corps at Fort Benning, Georgia, from 1978-82.[7][8] The majority of his legal service in the U.S. Army was as a defense attorney.

Gohmert was elected as a state district judge for Texas's 7th Judicial District, serving Smith County (Tyler, Texas) from 1992 to 2002. He was elected to three terms.[7] He first saw national recognition for a 1996 probation requirement where he ordered an HIV positive man, who was convicted on motor vehicle theft charges, to seek the written consent from all future sexual partners on a court provided form notifying them of his HIV status.[9] The order angered LGBT activists and civil libertarians.[9]

In 2002, Gohmert was appointed by Texas Governor Rick Perry to fill a vacancy as Chief Justice on Texas's 12th Court of Appeals, where he served a six-month term, which ended in 2003

Gohmert isn't this stupid. What he's doing is posturing. He's attacking our electoral process as a PR stunt.

"There are a lot of mediocre judges and people and lawyers. They are entitled to a little representation, aren't they, and a little chance?"--Roman Hruska

[brucejoel99]

Pence's COS: “The Vice President welcomes the efforts of members of the House and Senate to use the authority they have under the law to raise objections and bring forward evidence before the Congress and the American people on January 6th.”

You'd think that if they had any, then it would've already been presented... of course, given that there won't be any standards of evidence in this goofy theatrical display of lunacy, a stack of reports of people who heard of relatives of people in nearby states who had some concerns about people looking shifty while voting will do just fine in this forum.

Beautiful!

The Fifth Circuit is the craziest CCOA in the country, for reference (unless you're a conservative who reserves that honor for the Ninth); it's 12-5 Republican and is the only CCOA I'd be worried about under more normal circumstances. Good to see not even they have time for this.

It's even more telling because they didn't even wait for Gohmert's briefing apparently. They got the appeal less than 24 hours ago and just slapped it down as hard as they could. Out of all the courts in this country, you'd think the 5th would be the most receptive to this. But this appears to be one of the hardest slap downs of an election lawsuit so far.

Edit: And thank you to election twitter for helping me get more details. A thread I found very helpful on this ruling:

https://twitter.com/questauthority/status/1345543067533778946

Yeah, I thought I'd missed something because I hadn't seen a single brief before this was issued. I was expecting a Tuesday evening decision, & honestly didn't even think it was possible for an appeal to get slapped down this quickly. Law Twitter is suggesting that this might've even been a record.

[emailking]

I like this tweet from that thread.

https://twitter.com/questauthority/status/1345547285254594560

[compucomp]

Peter Navarro claims the inauguration can be delayed (it can't, it's in the 20th Amendment). Navarro has said a lot of ridiculous sh*t that did not gain traction but we are moving towards the direction where Trump is evicted from the White House on Jan. 20 by federal agents.

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1345561531010846720

[brucejoel99]

Peter Navarro claims the inauguration can be delayed (it can't, it's in the 20th Amendment). Navarro has said a lot of ridiculous sh*t that did not gain traction but we are moving towards the direction where Trump is evicted from the White House on Jan. 20 by federal agents.

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1345561531010846720

I wish they realized that even if they objected to all 50 states & DC, held full debates & votes on all of them, & then agreed to this preposterous 10-day Electoral Commission proposal & somehow managed to push the final certification past noon on Jan. 20th, then from that point on, they'd just be stuck with Acting President Pelosi in the meantime

[Former President tack50]

My "dooming" has been less that the vote will go Trump's way than the message it sends. 140 elected officials minimum voting against the official results of an election, along with minimum 11 senators is more than a little alarming.

Not to mention we don't know what sort of stuff the MAGAts are going to do between now and inauguration day.

Yeah the worrying thing is not "Biden will not be president in 2020" but rather, "Will he even be allowed to be reelected?"

It is not hard to imagine at all an scenario where in 2024 the House and Senate go R while Biden is reelected; possibly even against Trump again. However, what if in 2024 the R congress votes to overturn the election?

The fact that 100+ House Republicans vote to overturn the election sends a very powerful message and not a good one.

[GeorgiaModerate]

All the hotels in my 'hood are packed AF next week (I live in Crystal City).  

I can automatically tell when the MAGAs are in town, because I spot them at my local Giant, CVS, and Harris Teeter walking around without masks.

It's quite hilarious how the local BLM "urban" youths are afraid of these redneck peoples, and stay away.

Or maybe they just don't want to get COVID.

[emailking]

retweet
https://twitter.com/CodeMonkeyZ/status/1345580345987461120

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1345778965064130563

more:

I spoke to Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger yesterday about Fulton County and voter fraud in Georgia. He was unwilling, or unable, to answer questions such as the “ballots under table” scam, ballot destruction, out of state “voters”, dead voters, and more. He has no clue!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1345731043861659650

“Georgia election data, just revealed, shows that over 17,000 votes illegally flipped from Trump to Biden.” @OANN This alone (there are many other irregularities) is enough to easily “swing Georgia to Trump”. #StopTheSteal  @HawleyMO @SenTedCruz @Jim_Jordan

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1345736811906273282

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/bluestein/status/1345756818329526273

[GeorgiaModerate]

Read this article (not paywalled) for more details on Trump's call with Raffensperger.  Just horrible.  Trump needs to be prosecuted for attempted election fraud after he's out of office.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

[soundchaser]

Trump literally tells the Secretary of State to “find” the votes to give him a victory there. How is that democracy, exactly?

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

Read this article (not paywalled) for more details on Trump's call with Raffensperger.  Just horrible.  Trump needs to be prosecuted for attempted election fraud after he's out of office.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

This is insane, and criminal by Trump. I admire Raffensperger standing up to this sort of pressure.

[emailking]

I'm surprised he even took the call given how Trump has turned the party against him.

But I'm glad he did so we have this exposed for the record, and for posterity.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

About the state legislators call--I looked it up and three of the legislatures involved (MI, AZ, and GA) aren't even going to be in session between now and Wednesday. So it's an impossibility even if "decertification" had any legal force, which it doesn't.

[brucejoel99]

Read this article (not paywalled) for more details on Trump's call with Raffensperger.  Just horrible.  Trump needs to be prosecuted for attempted election fraud after he's out of office.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

That call is astounding to listen to. He sounds frantic & desperate.

[Non Swing Voter]

Read this article (not paywalled) for more details on Trump's call with Raffensperger.  Just horrible.  Trump needs to be prosecuted for attempted election fraud after he's out of office.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

That call is astounding to listen to. He sounds frantic & desperate.

because he is.  he's about to go to jail in NY.

[Hammy]

Read this article (not paywalled) for more details on Trump's call with Raffensperger.  Just horrible.  Trump needs to be prosecuted for attempted election fraud after he's out of office.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

That call is astounding to listen to. He sounds frantic & desperate.

because he is.  he's about to go to jail in NY.

The "Trump going to jail/prison" takes are as absurd and unrealistic as "Trump will remain president, the inauguration date can be postponed" takes from the Trumpists.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Read this article (not paywalled) for more details on Trump's call with Raffensperger.  Just horrible.  Trump needs to be prosecuted for attempted election fraud after he's out of office.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

That call is astounding to listen to. He sounds frantic & desperate.

because he is.  he's about to go to jail in NY.

The "Trump going to jail/prison" takes are as absurd and unrealistic as "Trump will remain president, the inauguration date can be postponed" takes from the Trumpists.

The Manhattan DA office is investigating him and a federal pardon can't prevent state charges, even if he tries a ridiculous self pardon that's somehow upheld or if he resigns and let's Pence pardon him.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Also that Raffensperger call alone should be grounds for charges. Hopefully Georgia elects a Democratic Attorney General in 2022!

[emailking]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1345798206471475204
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1345803569438597121

[Coolface Sock #42069]

Also that Raffensperger call alone should be grounds for charges. Hopefully Georgia elects a Democratic Attorney General in 2022!

Are we so polarized that we can’t trust a Republican DA to file charges if merited?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Also that Raffensperger call alone should be grounds for charges. Hopefully Georgia elects a Democratic Attorney General in 2022!

Are we so polarized that we can’t trust a Republican DA to file charges if merited?

Do you really think a Republican Attorney General could charge Trump and not be dead in the water in the next primary and not have their entire political career be DOA?