Voter suppresion/"stealing the election" megathread

[Devils30]

It's about getting a pardon, not constitutional law.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

It's about getting a pardon, not constitutional law.

Shredding the nation's constitutional fabric and the bonds of trust that hold us together not only as a country but as a people, to impress somebody with the ability to get you out of jail free. This from self-identified "conservatives"! Hope he sees this, bro.

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/alanfeuer/status/1336322940514623489

[Horus]

Protect Chris Krebs at all costs

[ucscgaldamez1]

Do we expect to find out if the Supreme Court will hear the PA case today?

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Do we expect to find out if the Supreme Court will hear the PA case today?

Alito has taken his sweet sweet time with post-election cases, so I wouldn't bet on it.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

Texas AG Ken Paxton sues to overturn election results in 4 states Trump lost

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton has filed an eleventh-hour suit in the U.S. Supreme Court, seeking to overturn election results in four battleground states by alleging pandemic-related election law changes that were not approved by state legislatures were unconstitutional.

The suit targets Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, all states that were won by President-elect Joe Biden. Paxton, a Republican, alleges that changes made to election policies by “executive fiat or friendly lawsuits,” such as expansions of mail voting, opened the door to voter fraud.

Paxton is asking the Supreme Court to postpone the Dec. 14 presidential elector certification deadline to allow voter fraud investigations to be completed, despite no evidence of widespread voter fraud. U.S. Attorney General Bill Barr said last week that the Justice Department’s investigation into claims of voter fraud had uncovered nothing that “could have effected a different outcome in the election.”

[Tender Branson]

Texas AG Ken Paxton sues to overturn election results in 4 states Trump lost

TX should mind its own business and stay the f**k out of other states.

[Non Swing Voter]

https://twitter.com/alanfeuer/status/1336322940514623489

Awesome.  Time to fight back against these scumbags.  I hope more of their victims follow suit.  #nomercy

[Non Swing Voter]

Texas AG Ken Paxton sues to overturn election results in 4 states Trump lost

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton has filed an eleventh-hour suit in the U.S. Supreme Court, seeking to overturn election results in four battleground states by alleging pandemic-related election law changes that were not approved by state legislatures were unconstitutional.

The suit targets Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, all states that were won by President-elect Joe Biden. Paxton, a Republican, alleges that changes made to election policies by “executive fiat or friendly lawsuits,” such as expansions of mail voting, opened the door to voter fraud.

Paxton is asking the Supreme Court to postpone the Dec. 14 presidential elector certification deadline to allow voter fraud investigations to be completed, despite no evidence of widespread voter fraud. U.S. Attorney General Bill Barr said last week that the Justice Department’s investigation into claims of voter fraud had uncovered nothing that “could have effected a different outcome in the election.”

disbar him

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Texas AG Ken Paxton sues to overturn election results in 4 states Trump lost

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton has filed an eleventh-hour suit in the U.S. Supreme Court, seeking to overturn election results in four battleground states by alleging pandemic-related election law changes that were not approved by state legislatures were unconstitutional.

The suit targets Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, all states that were won by President-elect Joe Biden. Paxton, a Republican, alleges that changes made to election policies by “executive fiat or friendly lawsuits,” such as expansions of mail voting, opened the door to voter fraud.

Paxton is asking the Supreme Court to postpone the Dec. 14 presidential elector certification deadline to allow voter fraud investigations to be completed, despite no evidence of widespread voter fraud. U.S. Attorney General Bill Barr said last week that the Justice Department’s investigation into claims of voter fraud had uncovered nothing that “could have effected a different outcome in the election.”

disbar him

He's already under federal indictment for securities fraud, hence (probably) why he's doing this. Gotta get that red-hot pardon love.

[Hammy]

Texas AG Ken Paxton sues to overturn election results in 4 states Trump lost

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton has filed an eleventh-hour suit in the U.S. Supreme Court, seeking to overturn election results in four battleground states by alleging pandemic-related election law changes that were not approved by state legislatures were unconstitutional.

The suit targets Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, all states that were won by President-elect Joe Biden. Paxton, a Republican, alleges that changes made to election policies by “executive fiat or friendly lawsuits,” such as expansions of mail voting, opened the door to voter fraud.

Paxton is asking the Supreme Court to postpone the Dec. 14 presidential elector certification deadline to allow voter fraud investigations to be completed, despite no evidence of widespread voter fraud. U.S. Attorney General Bill Barr said last week that the Justice Department’s investigation into claims of voter fraud had uncovered nothing that “could have effected a different outcome in the election.”

Meanwhile in Georgia, Republican ads are filled with whining about out of state financial interference.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Yeah if Paxton was serious about this he would've filed it weeks ago instead of on the deadline day. He's pardon fishing.

[vitoNova]

If liberals were Machiavellian by nature, they would encourage Texas secession.  Covertly. 

[GeorgiaModerate]

If liberals were Machiavellian by nature, they would encourage Texas secession.  Covertly. 

I knew a guy from Texas in college who regularly boasted that Texas was the only state that had the right to secede from the Union (spoiler: it doesn't).  He was so obnoxious about it that a few of us decided to form an informal group called "Americans for Texas Secession", with its only principle being that we'd be happy to see Texas secede as long as it took him with it.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

https://twitter.com/heatherscope/status/1336355324505296899

Treasonous stunts like this are why I'm not going to rest easy until Biden takes office.

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/Mediaite/status/1336387458372689920

[Penn_Quaker_Girl]

https://twitter.com/heatherscope/status/1336355324505296899

Treasonous stunts like this are why I'm not going to rest easy until Biden takes office.

First thing I noticed was how odd it is to see both Pelosi and McConnell on the same panel. 

[jimrtex]

What does Trump mean when he talks about the signatures in Georgia?

When absentee ballots are processed, the signatures on the envelopes they arrive in are compared to the signatures on voter registration files. Only if there is a "match" is the ballot legitimate.

After matching, the envelopes are opened and the ballot itself is seperated from the envelope with the signatures to ensure voter secrecy.

Then the actual ballots are counted.

Trump wants to go back and rematch signatures, which is impossible since the ballots and the signatures are seperated after signature verification.

So basically, it is a completely ridiculous bad faith argument from Trump and his cronies. All they care about is making it seem like the election was fraudulent.

The signatures were not matched in accord with Georgia statute.

If large numbers of ballots were unlawfully accepted it could have affected the outcome of the election. Assuming ballots were fraudulently cast, the ballots would likely tilt one way. It would taint the result of the election, regardless whether you can identify the ballots.

You are the one making the bad faith argument:

You are arguing that even if it is determined that a crime was committed, that since we can not know who committed it, or what the effect of the crime was.

[Wiz in Wis]

What does Trump mean when he talks about the signatures in Georgia?

When absentee ballots are processed, the signatures on the envelopes they arrive in are compared to the signatures on voter registration files. Only if there is a "match" is the ballot legitimate.

After matching, the envelopes are opened and the ballot itself is seperated from the envelope with the signatures to ensure voter secrecy.

Then the actual ballots are counted.

Trump wants to go back and rematch signatures, which is impossible since the ballots and the signatures are seperated after signature verification.

So basically, it is a completely ridiculous bad faith argument from Trump and his cronies. All they care about is making it seem like the election was fraudulent.

The signatures were not matched in accord with Georgia statute.

If large numbers of ballots were unlawfully accepted it could have affected the outcome of the election. Assuming ballots were fraudulently cast, the ballots would likely tilt one way. It would taint the result of the election, regardless whether you can identify the ballots.

You are the one making the bad faith argument:

You are arguing that even if it is determined that a crime was committed, that since we can not know who committed it, or what the effect of the crime was.

Show your work, Jim. SOS office says the process was the same as 2016 and 2018.

[jimrtex]

Texas AG Ken Paxton sues to overturn election results in 4 states Trump lost

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton has filed an eleventh-hour suit in the U.S. Supreme Court, seeking to overturn election results in four battleground states by alleging pandemic-related election law changes that were not approved by state legislatures were unconstitutional.

The suit targets Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, all states that were won by President-elect Joe Biden. Paxton, a Republican, alleges that changes made to election policies by “executive fiat or friendly lawsuits,” such as expansions of mail voting, opened the door to voter fraud.

Paxton is asking the Supreme Court to postpone the Dec. 14 presidential elector certification deadline to allow voter fraud investigations to be completed, despite no evidence of widespread voter fraud. U.S. Attorney General Bill Barr said last week that the Justice Department’s investigation into claims of voter fraud had uncovered nothing that “could have effected a different outcome in the election.”

disbar him

He's already under federal indictment for securities fraud, hence (probably) why he's doing this. Gotta get that red-hot pardon love.

The federal charges were dismissed three-and-a-half years ago.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Texas AG Ken Paxton sues to overturn election results in 4 states Trump lost

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton has filed an eleventh-hour suit in the U.S. Supreme Court, seeking to overturn election results in four battleground states by alleging pandemic-related election law changes that were not approved by state legislatures were unconstitutional.

The suit targets Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, all states that were won by President-elect Joe Biden. Paxton, a Republican, alleges that changes made to election policies by “executive fiat or friendly lawsuits,” such as expansions of mail voting, opened the door to voter fraud.

Paxton is asking the Supreme Court to postpone the Dec. 14 presidential elector certification deadline to allow voter fraud investigations to be completed, despite no evidence of widespread voter fraud. U.S. Attorney General Bill Barr said last week that the Justice Department’s investigation into claims of voter fraud had uncovered nothing that “could have effected a different outcome in the election.”

disbar him

He's already under federal indictment for securities fraud, hence (probably) why he's doing this. Gotta get that red-hot pardon love.

The federal charges were dismissed three-and-a-half years ago.

The Texas Tribune disagrees.

[emailking]

https://twitter.com/MajorPatriot/status/1336393862110208001
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1336401336280215552

[emailking]

He retweeted this:

https://twitter.com/MajorPatriot/status/1336397758211760133

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

He retweeted this:

https://twitter.com/MajorPatriot/status/1336397758211760133

Passing illegal resolutions to enable a deranged outgoing president's autogolpe attempt may not be "above and beyond" the call of duty, but it's certainly "outside" it.