NPC Elections - Rules and Results Thread

[GM Team Member and Deputy PPT WB]

Are you planning on doing anything about those who try to be one of the NPC legislators?

[Lumine]

Are you planning on doing anything about those who try to be one of the NPC legislators?

I mean, it has no legal or practical weight behind it as these offices are not playable, but I can issue a formal ruling and reach out to those involved (not sure if it's more than one) so as to formalize it.

Also, polls are to be posted tonight.

[Lumine]

Polling

Polls are not meant to be fully accurate

California:

Standard Fremont System

Party/Alliance		Votes (%)
Labor Party/SF/B&B		55%
Democratic Alliance/FN		18%
Federalist Party		14%
Green Party		7%
Peace Party		3%
Liberal Party		2%
Law and Justice Party		1%

Alaska:

Standard Fremont System

Party/Alliance		Votes (%)
Labor Party/SF/B&B		41%
Federalist Party		22%
Green Party		18%
Democratic Alliance/FN		10%
Peace Party		5%
Liberal Party		3%
Law and Justice Party		1%

South Dakota:

Standard Fremont System

Party/Alliance		Votes (%)
Labor Party/SF/B&B		55%
Green Party		17%
Federalist Party		13%
Democratic Alliance/FN		8%
Peace Party		5%
Liberal Party		1%
Law and Justice Party		1%

Oklahoma:

Standard South System

Party/Alliance		Votes (%)
Federalist Party		45%
Labor Party		38%
Democratic Alliance/AFP		10%
Peace Party		3%
Green Party		2%
Liberal Party		1%
Law and Justice Party		1%

South Carolina:

Standard South System

Party/Alliance		Votes (%)
Democratic Alliance/AFP		42%
Federalist Party		26%
Labor Party		22%
Peace Party		4%
Law and Justice Party		3%
Green Party		2%
Liberal Party		1%

Puerto Rico:

Standard South System

Party/Alliance		Votes (%)
Labor Party		46%
Federalist Party		32%
Democratic Alliance/AFP		11%
Peace Party		3%
Law and Justice Party		3%
Green Party		3%
Liberal Party		2%

District of Columbia:

Standard South System

Party/Alliance		Votes (%)
Labor Party		35%
Federalist Party		33%
Democratic Alliance/AFP		18%
Peace Party		5%
Liberal Party		4%
Green Party		3%
Law and Justice Party		2%

Wisconsin:

House of Representatives elected via STV (multi-member district)

Party/Alliance		Votes (%)
Labor Party/Tricolor		35%
Federalist Party		30%
Democratic Alliance/LPL		18%
Liberal Party		12%
Peace Party		3%
Green Party		2%
Law and Justice Party		1%

Michigan:

House of Representatives elected via PR Party List

Party/Alliance		Votes (%)
Federalist Party		39%
Democratic Alliance/LPL		24%
Labor Party/Tricolor		19%
Liberal Party		11%
Peace Party		4%
Green Party		2%
Law and Justice Party		1%

Indiana:

House of Representatives elected via STV (multi-member district)

Party/Alliance		Votes (%)
Labor Party/Tricolor		34%
Federalist Party		30%
Democratic Alliance/LPL		16%
Liberal Party		14%
Peace Party		3%
Green Party		2%
Law and Justice Party		1%

Miami Mayoral:

FPTP System

Party/Alliance		Votes (%)
Federalist Party		37%
Labor Party		30%
Democratic Alliance/AFP		18%
Liberal Party		5%
Peace Party		5%
Green Party		3%
Law and Justice Party		1%

[LAKISYLVANIA]

Good poll. We might actually be able to make a play for Alaska with our all-in on Alaska campaign.

[tmthforu94]

Since a month is a long time in the game, would it be possible to get mid-month polling as well to get an update on how campaigning is going/where each side stands?

[Lumine]

Since a month is a long time in the game, would it be possible to get mid-month polling as well to get an update on how campaigning is going/where each side stands?

Sure. I'll do my best to update polling at the mid-point (August 17th).

[Lumine]

Since I recieved a message about this, friendly reminder that targeted registration in one of the states up for election is not going to lead to positive outcomes.

[LAKISYLVANIA]

Since I recieved a message about this, friendly reminder that targeted registration in one of the states up for election is not going to lead to positive outcomes.

the target is Fremont, nothing more, nothing less. I just tell people to register in the state that comes first to my mind.

[Lumine]

Have been very busy or outright exhausted - hence why there haven't been GM updates this week -, if mid-point polling isn't up tonight (hoping it will), it will be up tomorrow.

[Lumine]

Polling

Polls are not meant to be fully accurate

California:

Standard Fremont System

Party/Alliance		Votes (%)
Labor Party/SF/B&B		54%
Democratic Alliance/FN		20%
Federalist Party		10%
Liberal Party		7%
Green Party		6%
Peace Party		2%
Law and Justice Party		1%

Alaska:

Standard Fremont System

Party/Alliance		Votes (%)
Labor Party/SF/B&B		38%
Green Party		22%
Democratic Alliance/FN		16%
Federalist Party		15%
Liberal Party		5%
Peace Party		3%
Law and Justice Party		1%

South Dakota:

Standard Fremont System

Party/Alliance		Votes (%)
Labor Party/SF/B&B		58%
Green Party		15%
Federalist Party		11%
Democratic Alliance/FN		9%
Peace Party		3%
Liberal Party		3%
Law and Justice Party		1%

Oklahoma:

Standard South System

Party/Alliance		Votes (%)
Federalist Party		45%
Labor Party		37%
Democratic Alliance/AFP		12%
Peace Party		2%
Green Party		2%
Liberal Party		1%
Law and Justice Party		1%

South Carolina:

Standard South System

Party/Alliance		Votes (%)
Democratic Alliance/AFP		53%
Federalist Party		25%
Labor Party		15%
Peace Party		2%
Green Party		2%
Law and Justice Party		1%
Liberal Party		1%

Puerto Rico:

Standard South System

Party/Alliance		Votes (%)
Labor Party		38%
Federalist Party		29%
Democratic Alliance/AFP		15%
Liberal Party		11%
Green Party		3%
Peace Party		2%
Law and Justice Party		2%

District of Columbia:

Standard South System

Party/Alliance		Votes (%)
Labor Party		34%
Federalist Party		32%
Democratic Alliance/AFP		17%
Liberal Party		8%
Peace Party		4%
Green Party		3%
Law and Justice Party		2%

Wisconsin:

House of Representatives elected via STV (multi-member district)

Party/Alliance		Votes (%)
Federalist Party		32%
Labor Party/Tricolor		31%
Democratic Alliance/LPL		20%
Liberal Party		13%
Peace Party		2%
Green Party		2%
Law and Justice Party		1%

Michigan:

House of Representatives elected via PR Party List

Party/Alliance		Votes (%)
Federalist Party		38%
Democratic Alliance/LPL		34%
Labor Party/Tricolor		16%
Liberal Party		7%
Peace Party		2%
Green Party		2%
Law and Justice Party		1%

Indiana:

House of Representatives elected via STV (multi-member district)

Party/Alliance		Votes (%)
Federalist Party		32%
Labor Party/Tricolor		29%
Democratic Alliance/LPL		21%
Liberal Party		13%
Peace Party		2%
Green Party		2%
Law and Justice Party		1%

Miami Mayoral:

FPTP System

Party/Alliance		Votes (%)
Federalist Party		38%
Labor Party		23%
Democratic Alliance/AFP		22%
Liberal Party		8%
Peace Party		2%
Green Party		2%
Law and Justice Party		1%

[AustralianSwingVoter]

Polling

Polls are not meant to be fully accurate

California:

Standard Fremont System

Party/Alliance		Votes (%)	Change (%)	Change (%)
Labor Party/SF/B&B		54%	▼1%
Democratic Alliance/FN		20%	▲2%
Federalist Party		10%	▼4%
Liberal Party		7%	▲5%
Green Party		6%	▼1%
Peace Party		2%	▼1%
Law and Justice Party		1%	=

Alaska:

Standard Fremont System

Party/Alliance		Votes (%)	Change (%)
Labor Party/SF/B&B		38%	▼3%
Green Party		22%	▲4%
Democratic Alliance/FN		16%	▲6%
Federalist Party		15%	▼7%
Liberal Party		5%	▲2%
Peace Party		3%	▼2%
Law and Justice Party		1%	=

South Dakota:

Standard Fremont System

Party/Alliance		Votes (%)	Change (%)
Labor Party/SF/B&B		58%	▲3%
Green Party		15%	▼2%
Federalist Party		11%	▼2%
Democratic Alliance/FN		9%	▲1%
Peace Party		3%	▼2%
Liberal Party		3%	▲2%
Law and Justice Party		1%	=

Oklahoma:

Standard South System

Party/Alliance		Votes (%)	Change (%)
Federalist Party		45%	=
Labor Party		37%	▼1%
Democratic Alliance/AFP		12%	▲2%
Peace Party		2%	▼1%
Green Party		2%	=
Liberal Party		1%	=
Law and Justice Party		1%	=

South Carolina:

Standard South System

Party/Alliance		Votes (%)	Change (%)
Democratic Alliance/AFP		53%	▲11%
Federalist Party		25%	▼1%
Labor Party		15%	▼7%
Peace Party		2%	▼2%
Green Party		2%	=
Law and Justice Party		1%	▼2%
Liberal Party		1%	=

Puerto Rico:

Standard South System

Party/Alliance		Votes (%)	Change (%)
Labor Party		38%	▼8%
Federalist Party		29%	▼3%
Democratic Alliance/AFP		15%	▲4%
Liberal Party		11%	▲9%
Green Party		3%	=
Peace Party		2%	▼1%
Law and Justice Party		2%	▼1%

District of Columbia:

Standard South System

Party/Alliance		Votes (%)	Change (%)
Labor Party		34%	▼1%
Federalist Party		32%	▼1%
Democratic Alliance/AFP		17%	▼1%
Liberal Party		8%	▲4%
Peace Party		4%	▼1%
Green Party		3%	=
Law and Justice Party		2%	=

Wisconsin:

House of Representatives elected via STV (multi-member district)

Party/Alliance		Votes (%)	Change (%)
Federalist Party		32%	▲1%
Labor Party/Tricolor		31%	▼3%
Democratic Alliance/LPL		20%	▲2%
Liberal Party		13%	▲1%
Peace Party		2%	▼1%
Green Party		2%	=
Law and Justice Party		1%	=

Michigan:

House of Representatives elected via PR Party List

Party/Alliance		Votes (%)	Change (%)
Federalist Party		38%	▼1%
Democratic Alliance/LPL		34%	▲10%
Labor Party/Tricolor		16%	▼3%
Liberal Party		7%	▼4%
Peace Party		2%	▼2%
Green Party		2%	=
Law and Justice Party		1%	=

Indiana:

House of Representatives elected via STV (multi-member district)

Party/Alliance		Votes (%)	Change (%)
Federalist Party		32%	▲2%
Labor Party/Tricolor		29%	▼5%
Democratic Alliance/LPL		21%	▲5%
Liberal Party		13%	▼1%
Peace Party		2%	▼1%
Green Party		2%	=
Law and Justice Party		1%	=

Miami Mayoral:

FPTP System

Party/Alliance		Votes (%)	Change (%)
Federalist Party		38%	▲1%
Labor Party		23%	▼7%
Democratic Alliance/AFP		22%	▲4%
Liberal Party		8%	▲3%
Peace Party		2%	▼3%
Green Party		2%	▼1%
Law and Justice Party		1%	=

Thought it would help to add the change in vote share from the last poll, so parties get an idea of how campaigning is impacting the race.

[Former President tack50]

As a request of sorts, will we get updates as to what happened with the governments of the states; in particular those that ended in hung parliaments?

Ftr here are the list of hung parliaments in July, as well as my rough guesses:

CO: Labor minority, propped up by Greens and Liberals
AZ: Labor-Green coalition
VA: Fed-DA coalition
NYC?: Fed-Lib coalition
IL: Labor minority, propped up by Tricolor and Peace
RI: DA-Fed coalition

Of course I suppose it also depends on the party leaders

[GM Team Member and Deputy PPT WB]

This thread should be pinned tbh

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

This thread should be pinned tbh

It is linked in this pinned thread: https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=363295.0

I actually had this pinned for a few hours but I realized since we no longer have the DoFE pinned, it was hard to justify pinning this. We have a lot of pinned threads on here already, hence why I created a noticeboard of threads that is pinned in order to compile a bunch of important threads without having to pin them all.

I have not moved to remove any of the other pins since I am not sure which ones are dictated by statute. I know the DoFE thread was removed by such methods IIRC.

[T'Chenka]

Official Green Party Announcement
Liberty & Justice For All

The Green Party regretfully announces an early end to our Green-Labor NPC partnership. There has been a smear campaign going on and some red-baiting. Uniform support of Labor in Fremont will be impossible in this current political climate. We aren't going to shut the door on working with Labor again, and in fact we will still be in coalition with Labor in Arizona. Perhaps we will be able to get along together sooner rather than later.

[AustralianSwingVoter]

Any chance of getting another round of polling a week out? They really seem to draw activity to the elections and let the parties realise what they're doing right and what they're doing wrong. Not to mention they let parties better coordinate their campaigning.

[OBD]

Any chance of getting another round of polling a week out? They really seem to draw activity to the elections and let the parties realise what they're doing right and what they're doing wrong. Not to mention they let parties better coordinate their campaigning.

haha damage control go brrrrrrrrrr

[Lumine]

I can try for Monday, but I can't make any promises. Game Engine priority goes to trying to get out a pandemic update on how the states are doing, which quite honestly is going to be a pain to work out (starting to think I'll eventually need a deputy given how much there is to be done)

[Lumine]

A public request of sorts, if anyone made a map of the last House election or has the data of who voted (and was kind enough to send it), it would be really helpful to ensure I can calculate the results faster next weekend. Otherwise I'll have to struggle for a while to sort that part of the calculations out.

[Lumine]

I regret to say there won't be last minute polling, partly because the COVID update was too draining, partly because there's only four days left. However, I have marked almost all events thus far and we're headed for a very fascinating scenario if they hold.

Fantastic to see people have taken this so seriously! Keep up the good work, gentlemen, some of you are close to recieving most interesting results.

[AustralianSwingVoter]

A public request of sorts, if anyone made a map of the last House election or has the data of who voted (and was kind enough to send it), it would be really helpful to ensure I can calculate the results faster next weekend. Otherwise I'll have to struggle for a while to sort that part of the calculations out.

Maybe NPC elections only get based off the registration and the results of the last federal election? Because given how the polling dictates where parties focus, it seems a tad unfair for the results to suddenly completely change in the final week after the very random state-level results of a federal election.

[Lumine]

A public request of sorts, if anyone made a map of the last House election or has the data of who voted (and was kind enough to send it), it would be really helpful to ensure I can calculate the results faster next weekend. Otherwise I'll have to struggle for a while to sort that part of the calculations out.

Maybe NPC elections only get based off the registration and the results of the last federal election? Because given how the polling dictates where parties focus, it seems a tad unfair for the results to suddenly completely change in the final week after the very random state-level results of a federal election.

The shift is not decisive, but it is a factor that I do prefer taking into account. It's not like accounting for the House results will force parties to win or lose 10 points, but I think there are compelling arguments for their inclusion as opposed to taking into account earlier results.

Among other points, it makes more sense to consider more recent results as opposed to an earlier election in several of the parties contesting the NPC didn't exist, or where parties that were more prominent then have lost some of that relevance. Not to mention that in RL elections which take place soon after another tend to be influenced by that (case in point: Britain and the local/european elections shortly before or after a GE).

[At-Large Senator LouisvilleThunder]

Here is the house election map I made through figuring out how to replicate Encke's style!

[Lumine]

You're doing the lord's work, LT, can't thank you enough for that!

Not sure if it counts as a reward, but there will a final polling update within a few minutes.

[Lumine]

Polling

Polls are not meant to be fully accurate

California:

Standard Fremont System

Party/Alliance		Votes (%)	Change (%)
Labor Party/SF/B&B		49%	▼5%
Democratic Alliance/FN		28%	▲8%
Liberal Party		7%	=
Federalist Party		7%	▼3%
Green Party		7%	▲1%
Peace Party		1%	▼1%
Law and Justice Party		1%	=

Alaska:

Standard Fremont System

Party/Alliance		Votes (%)	Change (%)
Labor Party/SF/B&B		35%	▼3%
Green Party		24%	▲2%
Democratic Alliance/FN		24%	▲8%
Federalist Party		9%	▼6%
Liberal Party		5%	=
Peace Party		2%	▼1%
Law and Justice Party		1%	=

South Dakota:

Standard Fremont System

Party/Alliance		Votes (%)	Change (%)
Labor Party/SF/B&B		60%	▼2%
Democratic Alliance/FN		15%	▲6%
Green Party		11%	▼4%
Federalist Party		7%	▼4%
Liberal Party		4%	▲2%
Peace Party		2%	▼1%
Law and Justice Party		1%	=

Oklahoma:

Standard South System

Party/Alliance		Votes (%)	Change (%)
Federalist Party		39%	▼6%
Labor Party		37%	=
Democratic Alliance/AFP		16%	▲4%
Peace Party		4%	▲2%
Liberal Party		2%	▲1%
Green Party		1%	▼1%
Law and Justice Party		1%	=

South Carolina:

Standard South System

Party/Alliance		Votes (%)	Change (%)
Democratic Alliance/AFP		58%	▲5%
Federalist Party		22%	▼3%
Labor Party		13%	▼2%
Peace Party		2%	=
Green Party		2%	=
Liberal Party		2%	▲1%
Law and Justice Party		1%	=

Puerto Rico:

Standard South System

Party/Alliance		Votes (%)	Change (%)
Labor Party		33%	▼5%
Federalist Party		30%	▲1%
Democratic Alliance/AFP		21%	▲6%
Liberal Party		10%	▼1%
Green Party		3%	=
Peace Party		3%	▲1%
Law and Justice Party		0%	▼2%

District of Columbia:

Standard South System

Party/Alliance		Votes (%)	Change (%)
Federalist Party		33%	▲1%
Labor Party		31%	▼3%
Democratic Alliance/AFP		21%	▲4%
Liberal Party		9%	▼1%
Peace Party		3%	▼1%
Green Party		2%	▼1%
Law and Justice Party		1%	▼1%

Wisconsin:

House of Representatives elected via STV (multi-member district)

Party/Alliance		Votes (%)	Change (%)
Federalist Party		29%	▼3%
Democratic Alliance/LPL		26%	▲6%
Labor Party/Tricolor		24%	▼7%
Liberal Party		17%	▲4%
Peace Party		2%	=
Green Party		2%	=
Law and Justice Party		1%	=

Michigan:

House of Representatives elected via PR Party List

Party/Alliance		Votes (%)	Change (%)
Democratic Alliance/LPL		43%	▲9%
Federalist Party		36%	▼2%
Liberal Party		11%	▲4%
Labor Party/Tricolor		8%	▼8%
Peace Party		1%	▼1%
Green Party		1%	▼1%
Law and Justice Party		0%	▼1%

Indiana:

House of Representatives elected via STV (multi-member district)

Party/Alliance		Votes (%)	Change (%)
Democratic Alliance/LPL		28%	▲7%
Federalist Party		28%	▼4%
Labor Party/Tricolor		25%	▼4%
Liberal Party		15%	▲2%
Peace Party		2%	=
Green Party		1%	▼1%
Law and Justice Party		1%	=

Miami Mayoral:

FPTP System

Party/Alliance		Votes (%)	Change (%)
Federalist Party		32%	▼6%
Democratic Alliance/AFP		32%	▲9%
Labor Party		21%	▼2%
Liberal Party		10%	▼2%
Peace Party		2%	=
Green Party		2%	=
Law and Justice Party		1%	=