The Atlas Asylum of absurd/ignorant posts IX

[Santander]

Another piece of the puzzle falls into place:

I don't like music

I don't like ice cream.

[AtorBoltox]

I think the zeitgeist opinion on John Oliver pretty much nails him.

I used to think it was really cool how he would dig into these uncovered, unexplored topics and uncover all these bizarre or horrible details.  That was, until he did a deep dive on a subject area I was actually very knowledgeable about, and was so misleading and ignorant that I wanted to fling my laptop out the window!  Having had that experience, I can now only assume that all the other deep-dives he does are equally full of malarkey, and it seems other people who are experts on those areas have said the same thing.

This sucks because not only is he misinforming people on a weekly basis, but all his segments basically boil down to "everything is irreparably f---ed."  And if you get a lot of information from his show, you can quickly become extremely cynical and believe that basically every system and every production and every form of bureaucracy in this country is utterly broken and corrupt.

In a more generic sense, his "comedy" is basically the same six jokes that wore thin sometime in 2014, and became memes solely for their repetitive, tiresome nature sometime in 2016, and yet 5 years later he's still making a living off them.  It's incredible.

And of course, his political views are basically just populist pandering.  He really needs to steer clear of politics.

I don't particularly care what Macarthur's opinion on John Oliver is, but holding against someone for observing American institutions are broken and corrupt is hackishness to the extreme

[Mad Deadly Worldwide Communist Gangster Computer God]

As the article makes clear, this kid's problems originate outside the classroom.  Schools are critical points for delivering kids help they often can't get anywhere else, but they can't assume sole responsibility for rearing the next generation.  At some point, we have to concede that our culture of individuality and dependence has ruined tens of millions of lives.  We need a return to the Victorian concept of poverty as a moral failing of those languishing in it and understand our collective responsibility not to provide for them but to instruct them in how to live more virtuous lives. 

[Santander]

As the article makes clear, this kid's problems originate outside the classroom.  Schools are critical points for delivering kids help they often can't get anywhere else, but they can't assume sole responsibility for rearing the next generation.  At some point, we have to concede that our culture of individuality and dependence has ruined tens of millions of lives.  We need a return to the Victorian concept of poverty as a moral failing of those languishing in it and understand our collective responsibility not to provide for them but to instruct them in how to live more virtuous lives. 

Very disappointed in Del Taco.

[KaiserDave]

As the article makes clear, this kid's problems originate outside the classroom.  Schools are critical points for delivering kids help they often can't get anywhere else, but they can't assume sole responsibility for rearing the next generation.  At some point, we have to concede that our culture of individuality and dependence has ruined tens of millions of lives.  We need a return to the Victorian concept of poverty as a moral failing of those languishing in it and understand our collective responsibility not to provide for them but to instruct them in how to live more virtuous lives. 

Very disappointed in Del Taco.

Disappointed, but unfortunately not surprised. Sad!

[Donerail]

The first three sentences are indisputably correct and I found myself nodding along, wondering why it was in this thread, and then you hit the last sentence...

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Yes, by someone who’s actually a Democrat.

Sinema is a Democrat. Sorry that reality doesn't care for your idiotic litmus tests!

Nah, emphatically voting against a minimum wage increase after campaigning on the idea that you grew up poor and needed government assistance to survive is a level of out-of-touchness that is reserved typically for Republicans. Not to mention the filibuster thing and voting with Trump over 50% of the time during her time in Congress. She may have been a Democratic 20-30 years ago, but not anymore. But 20-30 years ago, she was actually progressive. Funny how things change.

context: justifying calling Sinema a "Republican".

[Mr. Smith]

The first three sentences are indisputably correct and I found myself nodding along, wondering why it was in this thread, and then you hit the last sentence...

You've obviously never been manipulated and gaslighted out of your savings by someone with serious financial incompetence. The sort of person that will treat repaying a debt like being boss trying to get away with less than minimum wage.

If you had, you'd see how there are people that really do live beyond their means and really will use any kind of trick in the book to keep that going.

Such people if provided for only take advantage and drag others down.

The best you can do in such a case is try and prevent that behavior while young and schools are unfortunately limited in that regard.

Ironically, the sorts of people I've known to do that are rarely from impoverished backgrounds to begin with.

It's heavy-handed, but hardly without a point.

[S019]

Our go-to leftist, and arguably a microcosm of the younger generation.

See thread for context

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Torture vs. a concert by one of the greatest musical artists of his genre and generation?

Gee, tough question.

Now if it was an emo band, on the other hand...

There is no such option on this poll. There is an option though for an "artist" from a "genre" that is absolute f[inks]ing trash and has produced about as much content as artistic merit as Donald Trump's pre-Presidential career.

[Coolface Sock #42069]

Torture vs. a concert by one of the greatest musical artists of his genre and generation?

Gee, tough question.

Now if it was an emo band, on the other hand...

There is no such option on this poll. There is an option though for an "artist" from a "genre" that is absolute f[inks]ing trash and has produced about as much content as artistic merit as Donald Trump's pre-Presidential career.

The only poster on this forum who has good memes is John Dule.

[Never Made it to Graceland]

The fact that there are three Nazis on this forum is disturbing.

Fascism isn’t the same thing as Nazism. And let’s not act like Stalinism or Maoism is honestly much better than Nazism.

Stalinism and Maoism are infinitely better than Nazism. And while Nazism is literally just German fascism, Stalin and Mao were corrupt leaders who did not follow the teaching of Karl Marx in any way.

Anyways, face the facts. Unless you believe that a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy is better than mere the abolition of class and private ownership, communism is objectively better than fascism. Period, full stop.

You simply have dressed up authoritarian communism in more desirable language than fascism. That doesn’t change the fact that Augusto’s Pinochet was waaaaaaaaayyyyyy better than Stalin’s USSR and Mao’s PRC.

Apparently the worst , most murderous Latin American dictator in history was insanely preferable to the big communist regimes. And I'm not even trying to argue the latter werent awful. But the "waaaaaaayyyyyy better" is a comically offensive qualifier.

[TheReckoning]

The fact that there are three Nazis on this forum is disturbing.

Fascism isn’t the same thing as Nazism. And let’s not act like Stalinism or Maoism is honestly much better than Nazism.

Stalinism and Maoism are infinitely better than Nazism. And while Nazism is literally just German fascism, Stalin and Mao were corrupt leaders who did not follow the teaching of Karl Marx in any way.

Anyways, face the facts. Unless you believe that a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy is better than mere the abolition of class and private ownership, communism is objectively better than fascism. Period, full stop.

You simply have dressed up authoritarian communism in more desirable language than fascism. That doesn’t change the fact that Augusto’s Pinochet was waaaaaaaaayyyyyy better than Stalin’s USSR and Mao’s PRC.

Apparently the worst , most murderous Latin American dictator in history was insanely preferable to the big communist regimes.

The first part isn’t even true, but even if it was, yes.

[GoTfan]

I got to admit I do really get the guillotines meme or why there are leftist circles that thinks it’s funny? Maybe it’s because I think Robespierre was a massive pos or that the Reign of Terror was a awful event but the humor doesn’t translate

Leftism has three fundamental principles:

1:  Democrats are the real enemy
2:  Kill all rich people
3:  Amerikkka bad

As long as you say something that falls into one of those three buckets, you are 100% guaranteed approval, and the stronger or cutesier your sentiment the more social media plaudits you will earn.

And that's, basically, the entire game.  Copy+paste Bernie's platform as your core beliefs, and memorize a handful of talking points so you can dunk on Republicans.  But most of your time is going to be spent making and/or sharing memes and commentary about one of those three principles.

[Left Wing]

The one which is represented by a communist in the House of rep.

When you are a member of the progressive caucus and you are close to the DSA you are communist.

[Badger]

As the article makes clear, this kid's problems originate outside the classroom.  Schools are critical points for delivering kids help they often can't get anywhere else, but they can't assume sole responsibility for rearing the next generation.  At some point, we have to concede that our culture of individuality and dependence has ruined tens of millions of lives.  We need a return to the Victorian concept of poverty as a moral failing of those languishing in it and understand our collective responsibility not to provide for them but to instruct them in how to live more virtuous lives. 

Very disappointed in Del Taco.

Disappointment implies one fell short of their expectations. Nothing like that is applicable here.

[Badger]

The first three sentences are indisputably correct and I found myself nodding along, wondering why it was in this thread, and then you hit the last sentence...

You've obviously never been manipulated and gaslighted out of your savings by someone with serious financial incompetence. The sort of person that will treat repaying a debt like being boss trying to get away with less than minimum wage.

If you had, you'd see how there are people that really do live beyond their means and really will use any kind of trick in the book to keep that going.

Such people if provided for only take advantage and drag others down.

The best you can do in such a case is try and prevent that behavior while young and schools are unfortunately limited in that regard.

Ironically, the sorts of people I've known to do that are rarely from impoverished backgrounds to begin with.

It's heavy-handed, but hardly without a point.

If you read Del Tacos post, "those people" are the poor. Yes, there are undoubtedly deadbeats in this world, but both his post and Frankly Yours seem grossly overbroad.

[Badger]

The fact that there are three Nazis on this forum is disturbing.

Fascism isn’t the same thing as Nazism. And let’s not act like Stalinism or Maoism is honestly much better than Nazism.

Stalinism and Maoism are infinitely better than Nazism. And while Nazism is literally just German fascism, Stalin and Mao were corrupt leaders who did not follow the teaching of Karl Marx in any way.

Anyways, face the facts. Unless you believe that a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy is better than mere the abolition of class and private ownership, communism is objectively better than fascism. Period, full stop.

You simply have dressed up authoritarian communism in more desirable language than fascism. That doesn’t change the fact that Augusto’s Pinochet was waaaaaaaaayyyyyy better than Stalin’s USSR and Mao’s PRC.

Apparently the worst , most murderous Latin American dictator in history was insanely preferable to the big communist regimes.

The first part isn’t even true, but even if it was, yes.

It's good to know you put dictators that committed widespread killings, kidnappings, shut down to makhraj see in the Free Press all higher pedestal so long as they removed a leftist to come to power.

Reading between the lines  your argument implies the standard conservative gospel that  installing Pinochet to get rid of Allende was ultimately for the greater good. However, if your point is " better than Hitler or Stalin", you've lost the argument before it began.

[TheReckoning]

The fact that there are three Nazis on this forum is disturbing.

Fascism isn’t the same thing as Nazism. And let’s not act like Stalinism or Maoism is honestly much better than Nazism.

Stalinism and Maoism are infinitely better than Nazism. And while Nazism is literally just German fascism, Stalin and Mao were corrupt leaders who did not follow the teaching of Karl Marx in any way.

Anyways, face the facts. Unless you believe that a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy is better than mere the abolition of class and private ownership, communism is objectively better than fascism. Period, full stop.

You simply have dressed up authoritarian communism in more desirable language than fascism. That doesn’t change the fact that Augusto’s Pinochet was waaaaaaaaayyyyyy better than Stalin’s USSR and Mao’s PRC.

Apparently the worst , most murderous Latin American dictator in history was insanely preferable to the big communist regimes.

The first part isn’t even true, but even if it was, yes.

It's good to know you put dictators that committed widespread killings, kidnappings, shut down to makhraj see in the Free Press all higher pedestal so long as they removed a leftist to come to power.

Reading between the lines  your argument implies the standard conservative gospel that  installing Pinochet to get rid of Allende was ultimately for the greater good. However, if your point is " better than Hitler or Stalin", you've lost the argument before it began.

I said Pinochet was better than Stalin and Mao. He was. Period.

[Badger]

Torture vs. a concert by one of the greatest musical artists of his genre and generation?

Gee, tough question.

Now if it was an emo band, on the other hand...

There is no such option on this poll. There is an option though for an "artist" from a "genre" that is absolute f[inks]ing trash and has produced about as much content as artistic merit as Donald Trump's pre-Presidential career.

Something something directly into the thread

[Badger]

The fact that there are three Nazis on this forum is disturbing.

Fascism isn’t the same thing as Nazism. And let’s not act like Stalinism or Maoism is honestly much better than Nazism.

Stalinism and Maoism are infinitely better than Nazism. And while Nazism is literally just German fascism, Stalin and Mao were corrupt leaders who did not follow the teaching of Karl Marx in any way.

Anyways, face the facts. Unless you believe that a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy is better than mere the abolition of class and private ownership, communism is objectively better than fascism. Period, full stop.

You simply have dressed up authoritarian communism in more desirable language than fascism. That doesn’t change the fact that Augusto’s Pinochet was waaaaaaaaayyyyyy better than Stalin’s USSR and Mao’s PRC.

Apparently the worst , most murderous Latin American dictator in history was insanely preferable to the big communist regimes.

The first part isn’t even true, but even if it was, yes.

It's good to know you put dictators that committed widespread killings, kidnappings, shut down to makhraj see in the Free Press all higher pedestal so long as they removed a leftist to come to power.

Reading between the lines  your argument implies the standard conservative gospel that  installing Pinochet to get rid of Allende was ultimately for the greater good. However, if your point is " better than Hitler or Stalin", you've lost the argument before it began.

I said Pinochet was better than Stalin and Mao. He was. Period.

Yes, and so were literally over 99.99% of humanity. So what's your point? The real measurement of Pinochet was whether or not America should have installed him in order to get rid of Salvador Allende at the behest of AT&T and other interests.

If having any comprehension of the subsequent Decades of pinochet's bloody repressive rule still results in an answer of anything close to "Yes, because Allende was a Marxist you see", then you have failed. And trust me, "better than Stalin or Mao" doesn't aid that argument literally one iota.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Torture vs. a concert by one of the greatest musical artists of his genre and generation?

Gee, tough question.

Now if it was an emo band, on the other hand...

There is no such option on this poll. There is an option though for an "artist" from a "genre" that is absolute f[inks]ing trash and has produced about as much content as artistic merit as Donald Trump's pre-Presidential career.

Something something directly into the thread

So you really believe that there exists not a single person on Earth who doesn't like rap or country music without some underlying racist or classist reason?

[TheReckoning]

The fact that there are three Nazis on this forum is disturbing.

Fascism isn’t the same thing as Nazism. And let’s not act like Stalinism or Maoism is honestly much better than Nazism.

Stalinism and Maoism are infinitely better than Nazism. And while Nazism is literally just German fascism, Stalin and Mao were corrupt leaders who did not follow the teaching of Karl Marx in any way.

Anyways, face the facts. Unless you believe that a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy is better than mere the abolition of class and private ownership, communism is objectively better than fascism. Period, full stop.

You simply have dressed up authoritarian communism in more desirable language than fascism. That doesn’t change the fact that Augusto’s Pinochet was waaaaaaaaayyyyyy better than Stalin’s USSR and Mao’s PRC.

Apparently the worst , most murderous Latin American dictator in history was insanely preferable to the big communist regimes.

The first part isn’t even true, but even if it was, yes.

It's good to know you put dictators that committed widespread killings, kidnappings, shut down to makhraj see in the Free Press all higher pedestal so long as they removed a leftist to come to power.

Reading between the lines  your argument implies the standard conservative gospel that  installing Pinochet to get rid of Allende was ultimately for the greater good. However, if your point is " better than Hitler or Stalin", you've lost the argument before it began.

I said Pinochet was better than Stalin and Mao. He was. Period.

Yes, and so were literally over 99.99% of humanity. So what's your point? The real measurement of Pinochet was whether or not America should have installed him in order to get rid of Salvador Allende at the behest of AT&T and other interests.

If having any comprehension of the subsequent Decades of pinochet's bloody repressive rule still results in an answer of anything close to "Yes, because Allende was a Marxist you see", then you have failed. And trust me, "better than Stalin or Mao" doesn't aid that argument literally one iota.

I wasn’t arguing that the USA should’ve assisted in the coup. I was arguing that communism isn’t always better than fascism.

It’s pretty obvious that you haven’t read the thread and instead just want to find a reason to criticize whatever I post.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

If, for example, you say that Ayatollah Kohmeini was better than Saddam Hussein, certain people on this forum will go after you for being a Shia theocrat.    For whatever reason their minds have trouble thinking in relative terms.

[OSR stands with Israel]

anyone here ok with 30% unemployment, broken down supply chains and mad max levels of crime if it means republicans aren't in power? I am.