What is up with the Biden hysteria?

[Senator Spark]

Literally all polls indicate Biden is leading, and has been for the past year. Your assertion that Trump is favored by any indication as of now is much closer to hysteria.

Polls mean nothing folks. Look forward to you being wrong again.

If polls mean nothing to you, you shouldn't be on a political forum.

This far out it's impossible to place stock in biased polling. I belong here make no mistake about that. It's the (somewhat) different perspectives that make the forum a better place.

So is every high quality poll released since March biased? Trump is down right now, and you would be well served to recognize that and that this isn't going to be an easy for race for Trump.

Yes, almost. There are some good pollsters. And it's not going to be a walk in the park but the incumbent is favored.

[Bidenworth2020]

Literally all polls indicate Biden is leading, and has been for the past year. Your assertion that Trump is favored by any indication as of now is much closer to hysteria.

Someone's in denial.

He is just saying he is favored, not that Biden is a lock to win.

Favored means nothing esp. when you're a weak challenger. People are lying to the pollsters again.

Any evidence of this or do you just hope desperately that this is the case lol. If Biden is such a weak candidate I see no reason why people would lie about supporting him.

[Bidenworth2020]

Literally all polls indicate Biden is leading, and has been for the past year. Your assertion that Trump is favored by any indication as of now is much closer to hysteria.

Polls mean nothing folks. Look forward to you being wrong again.

If polls mean nothing to you, you shouldn't be on a political forum.

This far out it's impossible to place stock in biased polling. I belong here make no mistake about that. It's the (somewhat) different perspectives that make the forum a better place.

So is every high quality poll released since March biased? Trump is down right now, and you would be well served to recognize that and that this isn't going to be an easy for race for Trump.

Yes, almost. There are some good pollsters. And it's not going to be a walk in the park but the incumbent is favored.

Alright, find me a "good pollster" who has produced a good result for Trump since the beginning of April.

[Senator Spark]

Literally all polls indicate Biden is leading, and has been for the past year. Your assertion that Trump is favored by any indication as of now is much closer to hysteria.

Polls mean nothing folks. Look forward to you being wrong again.

If polls mean nothing to you, you shouldn't be on a political forum.

This far out it's impossible to place stock in biased polling. I belong here make no mistake about that. It's the (somewhat) different perspectives that make the forum a better place.

So is every high quality poll released since March biased? Trump is down right now, and you would be well served to recognize that and that this isn't going to be an easy for race for Trump.

Yes, almost. There are some good pollsters. And it's not going to be a walk in the park but the incumbent is favored.

Alright, find me a "good pollster" who has produced a good result for Trump since the beginning of April.

YouGov on 6/2. There was a sample of 1,486 LV. #Bidenunder50. His polling overall has been terrible during this crisis. Any other challenger would probably be up over 10 points nationally. It gives credence to SN's argument that Biden is a weak challenger.

[Bidenworth2020]

Literally all polls indicate Biden is leading, and has been for the past year. Your assertion that Trump is favored by any indication as of now is much closer to hysteria.

Polls mean nothing folks. Look forward to you being wrong again.

If polls mean nothing to you, you shouldn't be on a political forum.

This far out it's impossible to place stock in biased polling. I belong here make no mistake about that. It's the (somewhat) different perspectives that make the forum a better place.

So is every high quality poll released since March biased? Trump is down right now, and you would be well served to recognize that and that this isn't going to be an easy for race for Trump.

Yes, almost. There are some good pollsters. And it's not going to be a walk in the park but the incumbent is favored.

Alright, find me a "good pollster" who has produced a good result for Trump since the beginning of April.

YouGov on 6/2. There was a sample of 1,486 LV. #Bidenunder50

47-43 Biden is a +4 lead, he would almost certainly win if that was his margin... and this is clearly an outlier. More polls have shown Biden leading by 10 than by less than 5 since May.

[Holmes]

Literally all polls indicate Biden is leading, and has been for the past year. Your assertion that Trump is favored by any indication as of now is much closer to hysteria.

Polls mean nothing folks. Look forward to you being wrong again. Heavily biased/large MOE, etc.

Ok, well, polls say Biden is favored now. If they move then we’ll obviously know that the race is shifting. That’s literally how it works. You’re basically telling us not to believe any polls that come out because you don’t believe them period. At least SN gives valid reasons as to why he thinks Trump can/will rebound, even if many of those reasons are rooted in fantasy.

[Senator Spark]

Literally all polls indicate Biden is leading, and has been for the past year. Your assertion that Trump is favored by any indication as of now is much closer to hysteria.

Polls mean nothing folks. Look forward to you being wrong again.

If polls mean nothing to you, you shouldn't be on a political forum.

This far out it's impossible to place stock in biased polling. I belong here make no mistake about that. It's the (somewhat) different perspectives that make the forum a better place.

So is every high quality poll released since March biased? Trump is down right now, and you would be well served to recognize that and that this isn't going to be an easy for race for Trump.

Yes, almost. There are some good pollsters. And it's not going to be a walk in the park but the incumbent is favored.

Alright, find me a "good pollster" who has produced a good result for Trump since the beginning of April.

YouGov on 6/2. There was a sample of 1,486 LV. #Bidenunder50

47-43 Biden is a +4 lead, he would almost certainly win if that was his margin... and this is clearly an outlier. More polls have shown Biden leading by 10 than by less than 5 since May.

Biden ain't winning with 47%. The man needs to be at 55% to compensate for the MOE, mobilization efforts, and other tactics Trump is capable of pulling off. He pulled off a miracle in 2016 and we will witness a more likely one in 2020. He cannot win PA, WI, MI without being at 50% period.

[SN2903]

Literally all polls indicate Biden is leading, and has been for the past year. Your assertion that Trump is favored by any indication as of now is much closer to hysteria.

Someone's in denial.

He is just saying he is favored, not that Biden is a lock to win.

Favored means nothing esp. when you're a weak challenger. People are lying to the pollsters again.

Any evidence of this or do you just hope desperately that this is the case lol. If Biden is such a weak candidate I see no reason why people would lie about supporting him.

Societal pressure. People are bombared with liberal BS almost 24/7: Media, elite universities, friends, family. It's not easy to publicly say you support Donald Trump even in 2020. I believe suburban men especially may feel some pressure from their wives but I see Trump outperforming the polls with college educated whites just like 2016. Most people still vote their pocketbooks and Trump is a known quantity who built a great economy. People don't like change fundamentally.  I also think this non stop protest will scare a lot of whites. They support peoples right to protest but they don't believe in any of this defund the police nonsense. People support their local police like 80% among all minority groups.

[catographer]

Pear Squad, your electoral analysis is exceptionally detached from reality.

[Bomster]

Pear and SN are the hysterical ones here. Like Biden’s not a lock, but it’s quite clear Trump is not in a good position for an incumbent. Certainly weaker then both Obama and Dubya.

[Ferguson97]

Lol come on guys, Hoover is gonna win re-election.

INCUMBENTS ALWAYS WIN

[SN2903]

Pear and SN are the hysterical ones here. Like Biden’s not a lock, but it’s quite clear Trump is not in a good position for an incumbent. Certainly weaker then both Obama and Dubya.

He's a better position than HW and about on par with W maybe slightly worse. HW was a weak incumbent and Clinton was a great challenger. None of those dynamics here. Trump may not be a "strong incumbent" but he def ain't weak especially in terms of political skill.

[Bidenworth2020]

Literally all polls indicate Biden is leading, and has been for the past year. Your assertion that Trump is favored by any indication as of now is much closer to hysteria.

Polls mean nothing folks. Look forward to you being wrong again.

If polls mean nothing to you, you shouldn't be on a political forum.

This far out it's impossible to place stock in biased polling. I belong here make no mistake about that. It's the (somewhat) different perspectives that make the forum a better place.

So is every high quality poll released since March biased? Trump is down right now, and you would be well served to recognize that and that this isn't going to be an easy for race for Trump.

Yes, almost. There are some good pollsters. And it's not going to be a walk in the park but the incumbent is favored.

Alright, find me a "good pollster" who has produced a good result for Trump since the beginning of April.

YouGov on 6/2. There was a sample of 1,486 LV. #Bidenunder50

47-43 Biden is a +4 lead, he would almost certainly win if that was his margin... and this is clearly an outlier. More polls have shown Biden leading by 10 than by less than 5 since May.

Biden ain't winning with 47%. The man needs to be at 55% to compensate for the MOE, mobilization efforts, and other tactics Trump is capable of pulling off. He pulled off a miracle in 2016 and we will witness a more likely one in 2020. He cannot win PA, WI, MI without being at 50% period.

Latest Fox News Polls had Biden at or near 50 in PA, WI, and MI. Trump with 40-42.

[Calthrina950]

I certainly think that some posters on here may be overly optimistic about Biden's electoral prospects (i.e. that Trump will lose by a historic landslide margin), and other posters are overly optimistic about Trump's electoral chances (i.e. that Trump will win by a decisive margin). The reality is somewhere in the middle. If one looks at the polls now, they suggest that Biden would win, probably by a margin comparable to either one of Obama's victories. However, the polls will not remain constant, and Trump still does have a shot at victory, though his chances have certainly decreased compared to where they were a few months ago.

[Bidenworth2020]

Pear and SN are the hysterical ones here. Like Biden’s not a lock, but it’s quite clear Trump is not in a good position for an incumbent. Certainly weaker then both Obama and Dubya.

He's a better position than HW. HW was a weak incumbent and Clinton was a great challenger. None of those dynamics here. Trump may not be a "strong incumbent" but he def ain't weak especially in terms of political skill.

Yep, telling people to inject bleach into their veins was a stroke of political genius!

[Dr. Arch]

This thread is ongoing anthropological evidence that the politics of 2016 broke a lot of people.

[Bomster]

Pear and SN are the hysterical ones here. Like Biden’s not a lock, but it’s quite clear Trump is not in a good position for an incumbent. Certainly weaker then both Obama and Dubya.

He's a better position than HW. HW was a weak incumbent and Clinton was a great challenger. None of those dynamics here. Trump may not be a "strong incumbent" but he def ain't weak especially in terms of political skill.

Trump is definitely a weak incumbent. His net approval was ten points under even with a good economy, and when a national crisis happened and people looked to the president for leadership his approval still remained negative and then has fallen down even further now.

[Senator Spark]

Literally all polls indicate Biden is leading, and has been for the past year. Your assertion that Trump is favored by any indication as of now is much closer to hysteria.

Polls mean nothing folks. Look forward to you being wrong again.

If polls mean nothing to you, you shouldn't be on a political forum.

This far out it's impossible to place stock in biased polling. I belong here make no mistake about that. It's the (somewhat) different perspectives that make the forum a better place.

So is every high quality poll released since March biased? Trump is down right now, and you would be well served to recognize that and that this isn't going to be an easy for race for Trump.

Yes, almost. There are some good pollsters. And it's not going to be a walk in the park but the incumbent is favored.

Alright, find me a "good pollster" who has produced a good result for Trump since the beginning of April.

YouGov on 6/2. There was a sample of 1,486 LV. #Bidenunder50

47-43 Biden is a +4 lead, he would almost certainly win if that was his margin... and this is clearly an outlier. More polls have shown Biden leading by 10 than by less than 5 since May.

Biden ain't winning with 47%. The man needs to be at 55% to compensate for the MOE, mobilization efforts, and other tactics Trump is capable of pulling off. He pulled off a miracle in 2016 and we will witness a more likely one in 2020. He cannot win PA, WI, MI without being at 50% period.

Latest Fox News Polls had Biden at or near 50 in PA, WI, and MI. Trump with 40-42.

That's a good start. But he needs to be at 50% nationally on a consistent basis.

[YE]

Are you not tired of our terrible leadership in the middle of crises? Are you not tired of rich people running our government? Are you not tired of gridlock and the economic status quo of Reaganomics? Do you really think with a straight face after the chaos of the last few months, Trump is what we need going forward?

I have reservations that Joe Biden is the true change agent but one thing is for sure. He’s far better on policy and more competent than Trump.

[Bidenworth2020]

Literally all polls indicate Biden is leading, and has been for the past year. Your assertion that Trump is favored by any indication as of now is much closer to hysteria.

Polls mean nothing folks. Look forward to you being wrong again.

If polls mean nothing to you, you shouldn't be on a political forum.

This far out it's impossible to place stock in biased polling. I belong here make no mistake about that. It's the (somewhat) different perspectives that make the forum a better place.

So is every high quality poll released since March biased? Trump is down right now, and you would be well served to recognize that and that this isn't going to be an easy for race for Trump.

Yes, almost. There are some good pollsters. And it's not going to be a walk in the park but the incumbent is favored.

Alright, find me a "good pollster" who has produced a good result for Trump since the beginning of April.

YouGov on 6/2. There was a sample of 1,486 LV. #Bidenunder50

47-43 Biden is a +4 lead, he would almost certainly win if that was his margin... and this is clearly an outlier. More polls have shown Biden leading by 10 than by less than 5 since May.

Biden ain't winning with 47%. The man needs to be at 55% to compensate for the MOE, mobilization efforts, and other tactics Trump is capable of pulling off. He pulled off a miracle in 2016 and we will witness a more likely one in 2020. He cannot win PA, WI, MI without being at 50% period.

Latest Fox News Polls had Biden at or near 50 in PA, WI, and MI. Trump with 40-42.

That's a good start. But he needs to be at 50% nationally on a consistent basis.

He is lol. 50 in the NPR/Marist Poll, 52 in the Monmouth Poll, 53 in the ABC and Whitman Strategy polls. Not to mention that the undecideds in these polls are decidedly liberal-leaning groups.

[SN2903]

Are you not tired of our terrible leadership in the middle of crises? Are you not tired of rich people running our government? Are you not tired of gridlock and the economic status quo of Reaganomics? Do you really think with a straight face after the chaos of the last few months, Trump is what we need going forward?

I have reservations that Joe Biden is the true change agent but one thing is for sure. He’s far better on policy and more competent than Trump.

Democrats are more for the rich than Trump is. Most people that I know that are Democrats are rich nowadays. The party really isn't a working class party anymore. Democrats base is highly educated, upper middle class voters now. Trump is the only President in my lifetime to stand up to China and to literally focus on bringing jobs back. He said America first. It sounds silly to a lot but those were powerful words to me and I am sure a lot of Americans, not just Republicans. He did get 12% of Bernie voters.

You honestly think Joe Biden who has been in office for 50 years can change the gridlock in DC and can be an agent of change? It just sounds ridiculous. Trump is a shake up to the system. It's a fact. You may not like that shake up but he has shaken up the system which is why so many people can't stand him. Democrats pretend to be for change when they aren't. Hillary was literally the most status quo candidate to ever run for office probably.

[Ferguson97]

Literally all polls indicate Biden is leading, and has been for the past year. Your assertion that Trump is favored by any indication as of now is much closer to hysteria.

Polls mean nothing folks. Look forward to you being wrong again.

If polls mean nothing to you, you shouldn't be on a political forum.

This far out it's impossible to place stock in biased polling. I belong here make no mistake about that. It's the (somewhat) different perspectives that make the forum a better place.

So is every high quality poll released since March biased? Trump is down right now, and you would be well served to recognize that and that this isn't going to be an easy for race for Trump.

Yes, almost. There are some good pollsters. And it's not going to be a walk in the park but the incumbent is favored.

Alright, find me a "good pollster" who has produced a good result for Trump since the beginning of April.

YouGov on 6/2. There was a sample of 1,486 LV. #Bidenunder50

47-43 Biden is a +4 lead, he would almost certainly win if that was his margin... and this is clearly an outlier. More polls have shown Biden leading by 10 than by less than 5 since May.

Biden ain't winning with 47%. The man needs to be at 55% to compensate for the MOE, mobilization efforts, and other tactics Trump is capable of pulling off. He pulled off a miracle in 2016 and we will witness a more likely one in 2020. He cannot win PA, WI, MI without being at 50% period.

Latest Fox News Polls had Biden at or near 50 in PA, WI, and MI. Trump with 40-42.

That's a good start. But he needs to be at 50% nationally on a consistent basis.

He is lol. 50 in the NPR/Marist Poll, 52 in the Monmouth Poll, 53 in the ABC and Whitman Strategy polls. Not to mention that the undecideds in these polls are decidedly liberal-leaning groups.

You know the rules dude.

Polls will eventually have Trump winning.

And if they don't then Biden isn't winning by enough.

And if Biden is winning by enough, then the polls are fake.

[Ferguson97]

Are you not tired of our terrible leadership in the middle of crises? Are you not tired of rich people running our government? Are you not tired of gridlock and the economic status quo of Reaganomics? Do you really think with a straight face after the chaos of the last few months, Trump is what we need going forward?

I have reservations that Joe Biden is the true change agent but one thing is for sure. He’s far better on policy and more competent than Trump.

Democrats are more for the rich than Trump is. Most people that I know that are Democrats are rich nowadays. The party really isn't a working class party anymore. Democrats base is highly educated, upper middle class voters now. Trump is the only President in my lifetime to stand up to China and to literally focus on bringing jobs back. He said America first. It sounds silly to a lot but those were powerful words to me and I am sure a lot of Americans, not just Republicans. He did get 12% of Bernie voters.

Lol is that why Trump gave the rich tax cuts?

[Pericles]

Are you not tired of our terrible leadership in the middle of crises? Are you not tired of rich people running our government? Are you not tired of gridlock and the economic status quo of Reaganomics? Do you really think with a straight face after the chaos of the last few months, Trump is what we need going forward?

I have reservations that Joe Biden is the true change agent but one thing is for sure. He’s far better on policy and more competent than Trump.

Democrats are more for the rich than Trump is. Most people that I know that are Democrats are rich nowadays. The party really isn't a working class party anymore. Democrats base is highly educated, upper middle class voters now. Trump is the only President in my lifetime to stand up to China and to literally focus on bringing jobs back. He said America first. It sounds silly to a lot but those were powerful words to me and I am sure a lot of Americans, not just Republicans. He did get 12% of Bernie voters.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/camilomaldonado/2019/10/10/trump-tax-cuts-helped-billionaires-pay-less-taxes-than-the-working-class-in-2018/#b236ea33128f

[Bidenworth2020]

Are you not tired of our terrible leadership in the middle of crises? Are you not tired of rich people running our government? Are you not tired of gridlock and the economic status quo of Reaganomics? Do you really think with a straight face after the chaos of the last few months, Trump is what we need going forward?

I have reservations that Joe Biden is the true change agent but one thing is for sure. He’s far better on policy and more competent than Trump.

Democrats are more for the rich than Trump is. Most people that I know that are Democrats are rich nowadays. The party really isn't a working class party anymore. Democrats base is highly educated, upper middle class voters now. Trump is the only President in my lifetime to stand up to China and to literally focus on bringing jobs back. He said America first. It sounds silly to a lot but those were powerful words to me and I am sure a lot of Americans, not just Republicans. He did get 12% of Bernie voters.

This. And I am one of those Bernie voters.

If you backed Bernie and then Trump you are pretty much just uninformed politically and I don't know what to tell you.