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« Reply #1075 on: July 10, 2020, 03:15:28 PM »

But it can be done better, like this

Pretty similar to the current map.  3 "minority" seats (Bakersfield one is swingy tho, but majority hispanic CVAP), 1 tossup in Modesto, and 2 white seats.
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« Reply #1076 on: July 10, 2020, 03:18:03 PM »

But it can be done better, like this

Pretty similar to the current map.  3 "minority" seats (Bakersfield one is swingy tho, but majority hispanic CVAP), 1 tossup in Modesto, and 2 white seats.
Is there any year-round Central Valley highway connection with Inyo and Mono? Isn’t pairing Glendora with West Covina a no-brainer?
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« Reply #1077 on: July 10, 2020, 03:30:18 PM »

Inyo and Mono are currently connected.......  Also idk why you brought up LA, it's not even displayed lol.
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« Reply #1078 on: July 10, 2020, 03:32:18 PM »

Inyo and Mono are currently connected.......  Also idk why you brought up LA, it's not even displayed lol.
But are Inyo and Mono connected to the Central Valley with any year-round highway? There's no US 395 connection to Placer or Ridgecrest. I think that's illegal.
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« Reply #1079 on: July 10, 2020, 04:50:35 PM »

Inyo and Mono are currently connected.......  Also idk why you brought up LA, it's not even displayed lol.
But are Inyo and Mono connected to the Central Valley with any year-round highway? There's no US 395 connection to Placer or Ridgecrest. I think that's illegal.
the law doesn't say year around
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« Reply #1080 on: July 10, 2020, 05:22:42 PM »

I re did my central valley districts. You can create three Hispanic districts out of the 21st, 22nd and 23rd.

 


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« Reply #1081 on: July 10, 2020, 05:26:48 PM »

Inyo and Mono are currently connected.......  Also idk why you brought up LA, it's not even displayed lol.
But are Inyo and Mono connected to the Central Valley with any year-round highway? There's no US 395 connection to Placer or Ridgecrest. I think that's illegal.
the law doesn't say year around
Does it at least have any year-round road connections? How should I do the Coachella Valley, Imperial, and San Diego?
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« Reply #1082 on: July 10, 2020, 05:39:31 PM »

That isn't really a Hispanic seat,but thats a pretty reasonable configuration and how I would draw it according to Federal law but the California racial gerrymanders might require precinct trading over there  between 21 and 23.
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« Reply #1083 on: July 10, 2020, 05:57:40 PM »

That isn't really a Hispanic seat,but thats a pretty reasonable configuration and how I would draw it according to Federal law but the California racial gerrymanders might require precinct trading over there  between 21 and 23.

You would split the Antelope Valley and Kings County for no reason? There's nothing reasonable about that.
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« Reply #1084 on: July 10, 2020, 06:05:40 PM »



Is this a good map for OC when using 51 districts?
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« Reply #1085 on: July 10, 2020, 06:07:30 PM »
« Edited: July 10, 2020, 10:22:44 PM by ERM64man »

That isn't really a Hispanic seat,but thats a pretty reasonable configuration and how I would draw it according to Federal law but the California racial gerrymanders might require precinct trading over there  between 21 and 23.

You would split the Antelope Valley and Kings County for no reason? There's nothing reasonable about that.
How should I do the Coachella Valley with Imperial and maybe San Diego?

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« Reply #1086 on: July 10, 2020, 06:08:52 PM »

I usually try to take in all the mountains in San Diego County with it.
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« Reply #1087 on: July 10, 2020, 06:20:10 PM »
« Edited: July 10, 2020, 06:27:42 PM by ERM64man »

I usually try to take in all the mountains in San Diego County with it.
Does that include Ramona and the San Pasqual Valley (which is in the city of San Diego)?
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« Reply #1088 on: July 10, 2020, 07:35:26 PM »

Oh also even with 51 seats 0 chance of La Malfa being cut as Placer county is the fastest growing in the state so his seat would just push down south to Mcclintock.
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« Reply #1089 on: July 10, 2020, 08:14:25 PM »
« Edited: July 10, 2020, 10:22:57 PM by ERM64man »

I usually try to take in all the mountains in San Diego County with it.
Something like this?

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« Reply #1090 on: July 10, 2020, 08:46:21 PM »

Yeah. I usually put Ramona there, but San Pasqual Valley and Rancho Bernardo generally go with Poway for my maps.
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« Reply #1091 on: July 10, 2020, 08:54:07 PM »

Yeah. I usually put Ramona there, but San Pasqual Valley and Rancho Bernardo generally go with Poway for my maps.
Where should I go now?
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« Reply #1092 on: July 11, 2020, 12:49:17 AM »

Finished my map: https://davesredistricting.org/join/5180a8ee-d24e-48b4-8e6f-83d0f5a041d9


Recommendations welcome, I know that the 10th is ugly, mostly because it was my leftover seat, also the Inland Empire mess is to try to draw more minority access seats.

The 4th is an abomination that should be destroyed in it's entirety, the 13th should drop Half Moon Bay, the 3rd should go all the way to Del Norte County, the 32nd should drop either Long Beach or Venice/Mar Vista, the 26th needs to drop Claremont and Glendora, and the 35th, 41st, 46th, and 48th should be drawn over again from scratch. You don't need to do these insane pairings to get sufficient minority access.

I mostly made these changes but given Claremont and Glendora are in the current 27th, which is basically my 26th, I'm unsure where exactly they belong and which cities I should exchange for them.  The 9th was my leftover seat, and some advice on how to fix that would be helpful, also I'd like to know if the 35th could still use some cleaning up. Made all of the other changes that you suggested.


Map link: https://davesredistricting.org/join/5180a8ee-d24e-48b4-8e6f-83d0f5a041d9

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« Reply #1093 on: July 11, 2020, 01:14:10 AM »

Finished my map: https://davesredistricting.org/join/5180a8ee-d24e-48b4-8e6f-83d0f5a041d9


Recommendations welcome, I know that the 10th is ugly, mostly because it was my leftover seat, also the Inland Empire mess is to try to draw more minority access seats.

The 4th is an abomination that should be destroyed in it's entirety, the 13th should drop Half Moon Bay, the 3rd should go all the way to Del Norte County, the 32nd should drop either Long Beach or Venice/Mar Vista, the 26th needs to drop Claremont and Glendora, and the 35th, 41st, 46th, and 48th should be drawn over again from scratch. You don't need to do these insane pairings to get sufficient minority access.

I mostly made these changes but given Claremont and Glendora are in the current 27th, which is basically my 26th, I'm unsure where exactly they belong and which cities I should exchange for them.  The 9th was my leftover seat, and some advice on how to fix that would be helpful, also I'd like to know if the 35th could still use some cleaning up. Made all of the other changes that you suggested.


Map link: https://davesredistricting.org/join/5180a8ee-d24e-48b4-8e6f-83d0f5a041d9


This is better, but you still have some work to do.

1. Inyo and Mono counties can only attach to San Bernardino or Kern. This is literally mandated by California state law and any map which connects them west or north is a non-starter. You'll just have to live without that white sink.

2. Pasadena to Glendora to Claremont without including Monrovia/Azusa/San Dimas is also a no go. Just push your 31st district into Monrovia and Claremont and drop precincts in El Monte and Monrovia to compensate.

3. Don't split Long Beach. Just don't.

4. Santa Monica, Sawtelle, Pacific Palisades, Brentwood, and Venice should all be in the same district which should under no situation connect to Burbank and Glendale.

5. Your pairings in Orange County are very awkward.

6. As a general rule, your district borders are very messy. Try to follow straight lines or natural borders for the most part. You have a tendency to excessively create minority access districts at the expense of logical neighborhood and city pairings.
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« Reply #1094 on: July 11, 2020, 01:25:13 AM »

Oh no, oh no. Please do not loop or snake around other districts for no reason.

You definitely need to learn a bit about California to attempt a decent map. Learning the physical and political geography better will help immensely.

I want to be mad about the cookie monster eating Pasadena and Glendora and Claremont, but then a wild Tentacruel appears taking in part of the Victor Valley and going to Perris?!?! Whatever, it doesn't matter. Glendale goes to the damn beach. How? Why?
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« Reply #1095 on: July 18, 2020, 09:26:30 AM »
« Edited: July 21, 2020, 06:28:55 PM by ERM64man »



Fresno-Bakersfield area is 2D (CA-18 and CA-20)-1R (CA-22)-1T (CA-19).



I need help with OC, SD, and IE.

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« Reply #1096 on: July 20, 2020, 01:03:52 PM »

Build the Cochella Valley district and go from there.
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« Reply #1097 on: July 20, 2020, 03:03:20 PM »

Build the Cochella Valley district and go from there.
My Coachella Valley district is incomplete. What should I do with it now?

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« Reply #1098 on: July 20, 2020, 09:44:24 PM »



Not selecting the remaining 6 but still important.
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« Reply #1099 on: July 23, 2020, 12:32:08 PM »
« Edited: July 24, 2020, 09:33:20 PM by ERM64man »

My Coachella Valley district is done. What should I do now?

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